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20 years since the concert at The Joint , Las Vegas 2001


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@Arnuld @dude69 @DannyVinyard do any of you remember what Silkworms sounded like at this show? I found this review online which makes it sound like it was already closer to the 2018 leak/2021 release of ABSURD than the earlier performances in 2001:

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I would have to say that the biggest surprise of the show was Silk Worms. They did some serious tweaking with this song and it sounds amazing. The other version just had a bunch of noises that didn't really fit together. This newer version works perfectly and it follows a structure.

 

http://www.gnrontour.com/sets2001/20011229reviews.html 

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6 minutes ago, ©GnrPersia said:

There is not a single audio from this show. Not to my knowledge.

Am I correct @Dean

At least in circulation there isn't, I have heard chat that several clips recorded on those early mobile devices that had video cams exist, but really short in length and in god awful quality.

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1 hour ago, Dean said:

I'm several thousand miles away from mine, so here it is courtesy of one of the commander in chiefs @Powerage5

https://tshirtslayer.com/tshirt-or-longsleeve/guns-n-roses-las-vegas-2001-event-shirt

And here's the alternate courtesy of @troccoli

https://www.troccolitm.com/ShirtNYEVeg.html

Cheers, those are some doozies.

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1 hour ago, Dean said:

At least in circulation there isn't, I have heard chat that several clips recorded on those early mobile devices that had video cams exist, but really short in length and in god awful quality.

There was a review for one of these shows i saw years back that talking about seeing other people in the crowd with devices with "red blinking lights" at least i think thats how it was worded. The assumption i guess being that at least people were booting the show. Surprised we never got anything at all from it.

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2 hours ago, Amir said:

@Arnuld @dude69 @DannyVinyard do any of you remember what Silkworms sounded like at this show? I found this review online which makes it sound like it was already closer to the 2018 leak/2021 release of ABSURD than the earlier performances in 2001:

http://www.gnrontour.com/sets2001/20011229reviews.html 

Silkworms is interesting, the version we have from the locker discs has no guitars and no chorus.

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20 minutes ago, rumandraisin said:

Silkworms is interesting, the version we have from the locker discs has no guitars and no chorus.

And then they added guitar and the "bitch like you" chorus for the Jan '01 shows. My guess is by Dec '01 it had morphed into something similar to the '18 leak.

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3 hours ago, Dean said:

I'm several thousand miles away from mine, so here it is courtesy of one of the commander in chiefs @Powerage5

https://tshirtslayer.com/tshirt-or-longsleeve/guns-n-roses-las-vegas-2001-event-shirt

And here's the alternate courtesy of @troccoli

https://www.troccolitm.com/ShirtNYEVeg.html

Thanks for reminding me I have a TSS account I haven’t updated in well over a year :lol: But I agree, love that shirt - one of my favorite GN’R shirts I have. Now if only I could get the HOB soldier/Chinese Democracy Starts Now shirt…

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41 minutes ago, Amir said:

And then they added guitar and the "bitch like you" chorus for the Jan '01 shows. My guess is by Dec '01 it had morphed into something similar to the '18 leak.

We need a timeline of every song and every period it was expanded on and someone added a part.

Some of the songs we know enough about to be able to put something like this together i.e TWAT and Madagascar. 

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3 hours ago, Amir said:

@Arnuld @dude69 @DannyVinyard do any of you remember what Silkworms sounded like at this show? I found this review online which makes it sound like it was already closer to the 2018 leak/2021 release of ABSURD than the earlier performances in 2001:

http://www.gnrontour.com/sets2001/20011229reviews.html 

From what I can recall it was just like the HOB version from the year before. Maybe a bit more guitar. I remember bitching to someone at the show how weird I thought the song was. But I remember liking it live. It was worlds better than Absurd. It still had the bitch like you chorus. 

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4 minutes ago, Rindmelon said:

I believe i found these years ago on some long abandoned site in my search for these shows. I don't think they are linked in this thread so i'll post them here. I stupidly however did not back up the URL'S, but here they are anyway for what there worth.

They're from gnrontour.com, that's where I found that snippet about Silkworms I linked to above:

https://www.gnrontour.com/sets2001/20011229reviews.html

https://gnrontour.com/sets2001/20011231reviews.html

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6 minutes ago, Amir said:

They're from gnrontour.com, that's where I found that snippet about Silkworms I linked to above:

https://www.gnrontour.com/sets2001/20011229reviews.html

https://gnrontour.com/sets2001/20011231reviews.html

Dam it my bad, don't know how i missed that. I think when i was looking for these shows most things probably linked back to that, there's almost nothing at all out there about these shows, at least with the first HOB back then we knew it was pro shot and there was a chance we would see it one day

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On 12/31/2021 at 11:01 AM, Janabis said:

A couple more fun facts about these shows: Slash was staying at the Joint and was planning to attend a show, but was denied entry because management thought it would throw Axl off his game. Also Robin did a stage dive and crowd surfed at the end of one of these shows.

Robin crowdsurfed at my show on the 31st.  He was rolling around on the crowd for minutes, not seconds.

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14 hours ago, Powerage5 said:

Now if only I could get the HOB soldier/Chinese Democracy Starts Now shirt…

Don't get me started. Two BRAND NEW, unworn shirts sold 2 days ago and I was completely oblivious. It's normally a routine search for me, so I was ill upon discovering this :lol:

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On 12/31/2021 at 5:01 PM, Janabis said:

A couple more fun facts about these shows: Slash was staying at the Joint and was planning to attend a show, but was denied entry because management thought it would throw Axl off his game. Also Robin did a stage dive and crowd surfed at the end of one of these shows.

That thing about Slash wanting to turn up and somehow looking like the good guy, all media jumping on Axl saying what a dick for not letting him in sums up Slash in that era of backhandedly making Axl look bad. Why would Axl be okay with him being there. Its not rocket science to understand why that would've been a distraction. 

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11 hours ago, Chris 55 said:

don't know what to tell you. it leaked out in 2001. shit quality but you could hear Axl 

There was a soundboard leaked of this around the time of the village leaks wasn't there ? I'm sure I have it at home on my laptop 

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16 minutes ago, DSTK said:

There was a soundboard leaked of this around the time of the village leaks wasn't there ? I'm sure I have it at home on my laptop 

That's the House of Blues '01 show from Jan '01, the Joint shows were in December.

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