Perhaps - New Guns N' Roses Single - Discussion

[colonizedmind]

5 hours ago, THELINESMAN said:

Where is the full on rasp coming from all of a sudden like in the last chorus here? Sounds great. It’s like he gets fired up to sing new stuff. Which means he should release more new stuff 😂

Second that!!

[2020_Intensions]

34 minutes ago, Spiritual_Chaos said:

Is the leak up anywhere to stream? Wish to listen and compare the two now, and it's seems gone from youtube :/

You had 4 years to listen to it

[Spiritual_Chaos]

1 hour ago, 2020_Intensions said:

You had 4 years to listen to it

Not 4 years to listen to it, after the release of the "official" version.

[2020_Intensions]

1 hour ago, Spiritual_Chaos said:

Not 4 years to listen to it, after the release of the "official" version.

You had plenty of time to get a copy of the leak. Youtube is the worst place to go for stuff like that .. I'm sure using google it would take a few minutes to find what youre looking for 

[ThERoveR]

Perhaps on Spotify: 2,524,182 streams as of September 03. 

https://kworb.net/spotify/artist/3qm84nBOXUEQ2vnTfUTTFC_songs.html

[Stringray]

Perhaps GNR should take over the Spere in Las Vegas...

[AxlSlashthebest]

excepte the cover of Chinese democracy (the worst Picture of the planette) WTF with Perhaps.please ? let Slash doing this !!!

[vloors]

On 9/2/2023 at 2:34 PM, evilfacelessturtle said:

I think his modern tone, at least live, is awful.

Listen to how he does the intro to Paradise City, with zero chorus or reverb whatsoever. Sounds terrible.

 

Also, his tone is so lacking in sustain that he often has to re-pluck a note because it's died out half-way through. Never mind that clean tone exposes the smallest mistakes and as a result he sounds sloppier today than when he was drinking a half gallon of vodka a day.

To me, his peak tone was the UYI tour. Even better than the album. His solo sections, from '92-'93 especially, were just so f*ckin dirty.

I mean, dear god...

 

I think after playing the same songs for 30+ years he goes on autopilot.

Also add the drink/drugs probably kept slash more fluid and inspired back then. 

[vloors]

On 9/3/2023 at 5:37 PM, THELINESMAN said:

Where is the full on rasp coming from all of a sudden like in the last chorus here? Sounds great. It’s like he gets fired up to sing new stuff. Which means he should release more new stuff 😂

The rasp wants to come out. His purposely holding it back.

[We love Axl Rose]

But how would I know how it feels
Or what it is to be you?
I've been so upset
Harboring this hate for days
Oh, what a weight upon your shoulders that you don't need
My heart bleeds for me

[Twinfoot]

2 hours ago, AxlSlashthebest said:

excepte the cover of Chinese democracy (the worst Picture of the planette) WTF with Perhaps.please ? let Slash doing this !!!

I nearly had a stroke reading this.

[AxlSlashthebest]

please don't !!!! Frensh are stupid...sometime !!!

[AxlSlashthebest]

If I have Perhaps in mu head all day all the time and don't like it to much Perhaps it' s mine I'm fool ? right

[GnR Chris]

I also think the live version of “Perhaps” has improved since its debut. Chorus sounds good with Duff and company singing it and Axl wailing “You’re all alone.” I do love that he comes in full rasp, “you used to be a little crazy …”

Fuck. Makes me kinda wish for the last chorus of the studio version, we had full rasp on that final line. 

[AxlSlashthebest]

16 hours ago, AxlSlashthebest said:

If I have Perhaps is in my head all day all the time and I don't like it so much. i''s mine I'm fool ? right

 

[Dummy]

22 hours ago, AxlSlashthebest said:

If I have Perhaps in mu head all day all the time and don't like it to much Perhaps it' s mine I'm fool ? right

Yes

[Sweersa]

I wonder why they didn't have Slash play the first two seconds of Robin's solo verbatim then play his solo. I feel like they should have either done that, or used Robin's solo entirely, then extended the song by ten or so seconds with a Slash solo, sort of like how they did TWAT or CD with Robin and Buckethead, and Quick Song. 

I love that Robin is on this song, but the transition to Slash's solo is noticeable. 

[Free Bird]

1 hour ago, Sweersa said:

I wonder why they didn't have Slash play the first two seconds of Robin's solo verbatim then play his solo. I feel like they should have either done that, or used Robin's solo entirely, then extended the song by ten or so seconds with a Slash solo, sort of like how they did TWAT or CD with Robin and Buckethead, and Quick Song. 

I love that Robin is on this song, but the transition to Slash's solo is noticeable. 

I personally have no problem with the transition. My main problem is that the solo ends when it should pick up intensity and speed.

[Sweersa]

2 hours ago, Free Bird said:

I personally have no problem with the transition. My main problem is that the solo ends when it should pick up intensity and speed.

I feel like Robin's solo was significantly more intense. He plays the initial high note again, which to me was the climax of the song, at least the 2000 mix. Now, the climax is me imagining Robin's solo during Slash's solo.  

[Twinaleblood]

Are we now sure that those two notes are exactly the same recording from Robin's solo in the Village Leaks and haven't been reproduced by either Slash himself or Richard? Do our guitar experts on here have a fairly certain idea about it? I apologize if this was already discussed, I might have missed it in such a long thread.

[Free Bird]

14 minutes ago, Sweersa said:

I feel like Robin's solo was significantly more intense. He plays the initial high note again, which to me was the climax of the song, at least the 2000 mix. Now, the climax is me imagining Robin's solo during Slash's solo.  

I don't know. The demo solo I heard wasn't anything special either. Don't know if it was the 2000 mix or something else.

[Sweersa]

8 minutes ago, Twinaleblood said:

Are we now sure that those two notes are exactly the same recording from Robin's solo in the Village Leaks and haven't been reproduced by either Slash himself or Richard? Do our guitar experts on here have a fairly certain idea about it? I apologize if this was already discussed, I might have missed it in such a long thread.

It has been brought up, the general consensus is that it is Robin's playing. Not only does it sound exactly like his from the Village rough mix, if Slash played those notes, I feel like they would have comped/blended it better with what he played. I feel they would have done the same with Richard, had he played it. I imagine it would be weird to ask Richard to play a 2 second solo before Slash's anyways. 

2 minutes ago, Free Bird said:

I don't know. The demo solo I heard wasn't anything special either. Don't know if it was the 2000 mix or something else.

The 2000 mix is the only other version we have apart from the official, at least that leaked anyway.

I'll admit I didn't think highly of the song as a whole initially, it grew on me. 

[Voodoochild]

27 minutes ago, Twinaleblood said:

Are we now sure that those two notes are exactly the same recording from Robin's solo in the Village Leaks and haven't been reproduced by either Slash himself or Richard? Do our guitar experts on here have a fairly certain idea about it? I apologize if this was already discussed, I might have missed it in such a long thread.

Far from being an expert, but IMO it sounds exactly like the leak, but with less gain. Sounds like the same recording from the leak indeed.

[sousadias]

2 hours ago, Twinaleblood said:

Are we now sure that those two notes are exactly the same recording from Robin's solo in the Village Leaks and haven't been reproduced by either Slash himself or Richard? Do our guitar experts on here have a fairly certain idea about it? I apologize if this was already discussed, I might have missed it in such a long thread.

To me the final version and the village leak sound a little different, the final version sounds with less gain and on the final version the second note is sustained, different from the village mix where the second note is very short. Maybe they updated the song over the years and changed some parts, and kept them on the final version, like the additional notes on 0:19 and 2:44, and the high guitar notes on 1:29 and 3:21.

[evilfacelessturtle]

I think the most likely scenario is that it's a snippet of a different take from Robin. The last note sustains, so it obviously cannot be the exact same take as the demo solo. But the tone is the same as the demo and is clearly different from Slash's tone, so chances are it is Robin.

The real mystery is whether it was intentional or not.