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Catcher in The Rye (Brian May version) - 9.8/10 - Near classic perfectly realized post Illusions material from Axl. A final mix and bringing out more of Brian May's sound in the mix would give it a 10.

Oh My God - 9.5/10 - Almost perfect rocker from a ferocious sounding Axl that is powerful enough to stand with the old stuff. Needs a better mix and less distortion in vocals for a 10.

Sorry - 9.5/10 - Perfectly realized - if only the lyrics were better and less juvenile. This type of song really suits Axl as he's gotten older. Buckethead is phenomenal here.

Prostitute - 9/10 - Again, he was so close to nailing this. Would have preferred more guitar in the song - more variation to the sound.

If the World - 9/10 - Another near hit, if only that 70's porn riff wasn't front and center through the entire song.

This I Love - 8.5/10 - Could have been a classic. Beautiful production and playing from Finck. Lyrics and Axl's vocals are a let down. Way too dramatic and theatrical - it's just too excessive. Should have gone for a tone similar to Don't Cry.

Better - 8.5/10 - The melody and vocals are a 10, the korn-esque guitar break in the middle sinks it for me as does the "I never wanted you to be so full of anger...". Sometimes the CD stuff just feels like two separate song ideas smashed together, to me this is one of those tracks. As it stands, another "could have been a classic" contender.

Shacklers - 8.5/10 - Great for what it is.

TWAT - 8/10 - Needs a better chorus and less production. Is the choir at the beginning and end really necessary? This type of pointless studio wankery from Rose really takes away from the post Appetite material unfortunately. The melody could have been stronger - needed the Appetite/Illusions team on this one.

Chinese Democracy - 7.5/10 - It's good-ish. Feels a bit generic coming from a rock legend like Rose - especially as a kickoff single for a new album. Needs Duff and Slash.

Catcher in the Rye (Bumblefoot) - 7.5/10 - Everything that was great about the original demo is stripped away here. It feels excessive and tasteless - both from Bumblefoot and Axl's creative decisions/production. The original felt far more elegant and classic - this one just becomes a generic rocker with a good melody and lyrics.

IRS - 7/10 - Ehh, it's good-ish I guess. We start treading water from here. The song just lacks balls - the vocals don't have enough power. Needs duff and slash badly.

Riad - 7/10 - Not bad actually - neat ideas here - feels more like an undercooked sketch with potential. Even if IRS and CD are technically better, I'd probably listen to this one over those two more often.

Scraped - 6/10 - Not bad - again, this one is more interesting than IRS and CD, but feels like whatever idea they had for it just didn't come together properly.

Street of Dreams - 6/10 - They ruined this one from the '02 live version. That would be a 7.5-8. As a song, it has its moments but I think it's a bit too sappy and corny at times - needs more balls, Axl needs Izzy, Duff, and Slash to give it some edge and some help with the melody.

Madagascar - 5.5/10 - Meh. The song feels a bit corny and repetitive with a completely gratuitous breakdown section complete with MLK quote. Not a fan of the repetitive guitar work either - it feels as one-dimensional as Prostitute's guitar sections. Axl's vocals are a "WTF" choice from him - not sure what the creative reasoning for that was.

 

Hard Skool - 5/10 - Generic b-side that is instantly forgettable and below the mark for a Guns N' Roses song. The Illusion b-sides like Shotgun Blues, Get in the Ring, etc destroy this. Should have stayed unreleased.

Perhaps - 5/10 - Generic and repetitive. Almost like they had one verse/chorus - a single germination of an idea - and just stretched it out into a song. This is just way below the mark for a band with their legacy. Should never have been released.

Absurd - 3/10 - How this song was released as a single is truly a mystery. Even My World has more creative inspiration.

 

A lot of the post-Slash stuff from Axl lacks strong melodies imho. He has some great ideas - but he needs a competent song writer like Izzy to string all these different ideas together cohesively and a showman like Slash to bring them to life. He had Buckethead who could have filled the Slash role but it looks like the entire nu-guns band/organization nerfed him. Imagine having a Michael Jordan on your team and you barely let him shoot. Instead of Axl writing with Bucket - it looks like they just took riffs and ideas from him to frankenstein into a song which is a shame....and it reflects on the material.

The rockers are weak - period. Aside from Oh My God, imho nothing else works. Not enough edge, grit - this type of stuff is not in Axl's wheelhouse. He needed the original lineup for that.

The stuff Axl had that were hits out of the gate like Catcher, Oh My God, Better, etc - he just didn't stick the landing out of either second guessing himself or giving in to his trademark of being over-indulgent and excessive with the production. A good producer and a stronger band with veto rights (like Izzy and Slash) who could have kept Rose from meddling would have delivered better versions of those tracks I feel. Catcher came the closest to realizing Rose's 90's vision but he ended up throwing out Brian May in favor of Bumblefoot, go figure.

For me, the creme de la creme of post- Slash material was Oh My God, Catcher in the Rye (May), Sorry, and Prostitute. Honorable mention for If The World which was a really cool track.

 

 

Ditto. 

The General and Monsters is my second favorite GNR song behind Estranged. 

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S tier: There Was A Time, Madagascar, Shackler’s Revenge, Monsters

A tier: Better, Street of Dreams, Oh My God, Prostitute, The General, Catcher in the Rye

B tier: IRS, Chinese Democracy, Hard Skool, Riad N’ The Bedouins, Perhaps, Sorry

C tier: This I Love, Hard Skool

D tier: If The World, Absurd

F tier: Scraped

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GNRmello77 DEMI-GOD

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Well...

10: TWAT, Better, Monsters

9: The General, Madagascar 

8: CD, Perhaps, Sorry, Prostitute, Catcher

7: Shackler's, Street of Dreams, TIL, Hardskool, I.R.S.

6: Oh My God, If The World, Absurd, Atlas

5:  scraped, State of Grace(this may change once out)

4: Riad

 

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S-Tier: Masterpieces

  • There Was A Time (10/10)
  • Catcher in the Rye (9/10)
  • Prostitute (9/10)
  • Better (9/10)

 

A-Tier: Amazing Tracks

  • IRS (8/10)
  • If The World (8/10)
  • Madagascar (8/10)
  • Going Down (8/10)

 

B-Tier: Solid Tracks

  • Street of Dreams (7/10)
  • Chinese Democracy (7/10)
  • Sympathy For The Devil (7/10)
  • Perhaps (7/10)
  • This I Love Remix (7/10)
  • Monsters (7/10)
  • Shackler’s Revenge (7/10)

 

C-Tier: Okay Tracks

  • Oh My God (6/10)
  • Sorry (6/10)
  • The General (6/10)
  • This I Love (5/10)
  • Scraped (5/10)
  • Atlas Shrugged (5/10)

 

D-Tier: Weak Tracks

  • Hard Skool (5/10)
  • Blood In The Water (5/10)

 

F-Tier: Shitty Tracks

  • Eye On You (4/10)
  • State of Grace (4/10)
  • Riad N’ The Bedouins (3/10)
  • Absurd (2/10)

 

 

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themadcaplaughs DEMI-GOD

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It bothers me a lot for a few. It's only there because the song has "school" (or, "skool", if you're an idiot) in it and seems to have no other relation to the song or the lyrics. It's cheesy, unneccessary and what bothers me the most - feels like they're not even taking the song seriously. That part especially bugs me.

What bothers me at least as much though, is that the absolutely whirlwind of an ending (bridge onward) he been replaced with just okay guitar stuff. It took away a lot of the energy. 

Fair enough. I am certainly not going to argue with your opinion and I do not even disagree with some of the points you made. To me, those are all complaints about the band as an entity. For me, that does not affect my enjoyment of the songs (which I do really enjoy). But thanks for explaining your thoughts! 

As for "Skool", yeah, that's a groaner. But then again, it strikes me as something Axl would think is cool. He uses "n" instead of "and" in public correspondence and posts 25 year old memes on Twitter/X; just reminds me he's a bit of a dork in his old age lol (in a lovable way). 

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This I Love

IRS

Better

Sorry

If the World

Prostitute

There Was a Time

Street of Dreams

Monsters (technically not officially released yet but whatever)

Shacklers’s Revenge

Madagascar

Oh My God

Riad N’ the Bedouins

Perhaps

The General

Hard Skool

Absurd

Catcher in the Rye

Chinese Democracy (the long-ass intro ruins it for me)

Scraped

As you can see, I like Monsters way more than the other NITL songs we’ve gotten so far (but they’re all fine, I even don’t mind Scraped).

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S Tier: Better, Prostitute, There Was A Time 

A Tier: Chinese Democracy, Perhaps, Cather, IRS, If The World (Yes), Sorry,

B Tier: Shacklers,  Riad, Street Of Dreams, Scraped, Madagascar, The General? 

C Tier: Oh My God, This I Love, Hard Skool

D Tier: Absurd... (could've been the "Its So Easy" of this era if it kept the chorus and original structure). 

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Awesome: Oh My God, Better, Chinese Democracy, There Was A Time, Monsters, Shackler's Revenge 

Good: Street Of Dreams, Madagascar, Catcher In The Rye, Sorry, Hard Skool, Perhaps, Scraped, Riad N' The Bedouins, I.R.S., Prostitute, Atlas Shrugged 

Okay: This I Love, If The World, The General

Terrible: Absurd, Eye On You, Nothing, Blood In The Water

 

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OMG 8

chinese democracy 7,5

Shacklers revenge 7

Better 7

SOD 7

ITW 7,5

TWAT 10

Catcher 8

Scraped 8

Riad 9

Sorry 6

Irs 9

Madagascar 7

TIL 8

Prostitute 10

Absurd 6

Hard Skool 8

Perhaps 8

The general 9

Monsters 9,5

 

Atlas 7,5

Eye on you 6

Nothing 5

State of grace 9

Blood in the water 7,5

 

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On 12/8/2023 at 4:44 PM, rocknroll41 said:

This I Love

IRS

Better

Sorry

If the World

Prostitute

There Was a Time

Street of Dreams

Monsters (technically not officially released yet but whatever)

Shacklers’s Revenge

Madagascar

Oh My God

Riad N’ the Bedouins

Perhaps

The General

Hard Skool

Absurd

Catcher in the Rye

Chinese Democracy (the long-ass intro ruins it for me)

Scraped

As you can see, I like Monsters way more than the other NITL songs we’ve gotten so far (but they’re all fine, I even don’t mind Scraped).

Take Scraped off & this is the most upside down list ever 

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