bojan Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 (edited) Sorry if it has been discussed already. Nothing new, but the whole interview is pretty interesting. Cheers! Edited April 18 by bojan Error 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojan Posted April 18 Author Share Posted April 18 3 minutes ago, bojan said: Sorry if it has been discussed already. Nothing new, but the whole interview is pretty interesting. Cheers! Guns part is around 1:21:40 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost un the jungle Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 The thing about Josh claiming to creat the music on CD song is pretty recent, right? I always had in mind this was a Tommy song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 2 hours ago, lost un the jungle said: The thing about Josh claiming to creat the music on CD song is pretty recent, right? I always had in mind this was a Tommy song. No, it's been known for a while that Josh wrote at least the first version of it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 4 hours ago, lost un the jungle said: The thing about Josh claiming to creat the music on CD song is pretty recent, right? I always had in mind this was a Tommy song. No, he mentioned that at least as early as March 2009. You can check it out yourself here: (35) Chinese Democracy (a-4-d.com) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 8 hours ago, SoulMonster said: No, he mentioned that at least as early as March 2009. You can check it out yourself here: (35) Chinese Democracy (a-4-d.com) It’s funny to see Tommy there still refer to Chinese Democracy as “the new record” in 2014 lol. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 He mentioned something about the newer NITL singles, which I assume are Perhaps and Hard Skool. Wasn't there some debate about HS, if it was him or Brain? He's super cool and I was surprised when Rick asked about CD, it was almost the end of the interview. I'd love to hear him talk about the album in a technical level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sploit Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 21 hours ago, lost un the jungle said: The thing about Josh claiming to creat the music on CD song is pretty recent, right? I always had in mind this was a Tommy song. It's not just a claim...Check the credits on the track. It is credited to Josh Freese and Axl. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoMw94 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 I thought it was pretty common knowledge that Chinese Democracy was a Josh Freese song 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggers Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 2 hours ago, DoMw94 said: I thought it was pretty common knowledge that Chinese Democracy was a Josh Freese song Yeah that's old, old news. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimiRose Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 On 4/18/2024 at 7:54 PM, bojan said: Guns part is around 1:21:40 It's mad he worked on songs, wrote loads and drums on all those instrumental pieces and in 2000, he still didn't know if Axl had written lyrics to any of them or recorded them or what he'd chosen as the ones he wanted to focus on. I don't know if that speaks more about the hired musicians aka NUGNR, not really giving a shit, or axl being so insular. He mentions specifically axl was open to any and all ideas no matter who had written them, which in any functioning band, is a great thing. But then also two years later he didnt know if axl had even chosen to record vocals to them. When I write a song, I am involved in it's development at every stage, surely he'd ask Axl? Someone here didn't give a shit, I just can't work out who! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hally187 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 All the 'New GNR' band members just seem like the most down to earth, awesome guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F*ck Fear Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 On 4/20/2024 at 4:10 AM, JimiRose said: It's mad he worked on songs, wrote loads and drums on all those instrumental pieces and in 2000, he still didn't know if Axl had written lyrics to any of them or recorded them or what he'd chosen as the ones he wanted to focus on. I don't know if that speaks more about the hired musicians aka NUGNR, not really giving a shit, or axl being so insular. He mentions specifically axl was open to any and all ideas no matter who had written them, which in any functioning band, is a great thing. But then also two years later he didnt know if axl had even chosen to record vocals to them. When I write a song, I am involved in it's development at every stage, surely he'd ask Axl? Someone here didn't give a shit, I just can't work out who! Really? It's Axl! Axl is the common denominator with everything that has went wrong in Guns N' Roses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illusion1987 Posted Friday at 01:17 AM Share Posted Friday at 01:17 AM (edited) Josh was the glue piece behind Chinese Democracy. Listen to Poe's Haunted which Josh appeared on. His signature sound/ arrangement is on both albums which is why I always considered those book end twin albums. No coincidence the bulk of both albums were created at the same time- late 90s/early 2000s. He is a musical genius! Edited Friday at 01:25 AM by Illusion1987 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real McCoy Posted Friday at 07:43 AM Share Posted Friday at 07:43 AM Look at the writing credits for the song: it’s credited to Axl and Josh. This isn’t exactly a new revelation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted Friday at 08:09 AM Share Posted Friday at 08:09 AM 22 minutes ago, The Real McCoy said: Look at the writing credits for the song: it’s credited to Axl and Josh. This isn’t exactly a new revelation. He said a while back that his royalties should be 50% for the song, but it's significantly lower and that there are a few other credited songwriters that somehow don't appear on the liner notes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karice Posted Saturday at 10:03 AM Share Posted Saturday at 10:03 AM (edited) On 4/22/2024 at 3:36 PM, F*ck Fear said: Really? It's Axl! Axl is the common denominator with everything that has went wrong in Guns N' Roses. Not really. Did you forget the REAL catalyst for Guns N'Roses going downhill? S.A is the catalyst that started Guns N'Roses going downhill, and I don't mean sexual assault. 💡 Edited Saturday at 11:42 AM by Karice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F*ck Fear Posted Saturday at 02:04 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:04 PM 3 hours ago, Karice said: Not really. Did you forget the REAL catalyst for Guns N'Roses going downhill? S.A is the catalyst that started Guns N'Roses going downhill, and I don't mean sexual assault. 💡 If you're referring to Steve Adler, I hate to break it to you but there were three other junkies in GNR at the time. The catalyst is Axl Rose. You can't tell me any different. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoMw94 Posted Saturday at 04:24 PM Share Posted Saturday at 04:24 PM 6 hours ago, Karice said: Not really. Did you forget the REAL catalyst for Guns N'Roses going downhill? S.A is the catalyst that started Guns N'Roses going downhill, and I don't mean sexual assault. 💡 The core lineup lasted years after Adler went! They had their most successful tours after he left, too 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted Sunday at 11:27 AM Share Posted Sunday at 11:27 AM 19 hours ago, DoMw94 said: The core lineup lasted years after Adler went! They had their most successful tours after he left, too but when Steven went.... a big chunk of the Gn'R sound left the building., it's a good thing they found Matt which is also a great drummer but not that original big chunk. they were great enough so it still was cool, but it wasn't the same and Izzy said as much. Izzy is rarely wrong. a neat thing I've noticed. (when he does talk which is also rare) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoMw94 Posted Sunday at 11:45 AM Share Posted Sunday at 11:45 AM 16 minutes ago, Rovim said: but when Steven went.... a big chunk of the Gn'R sound left the building., it's a good thing they found Matt which is also a great drummer but not that original big chunk. they were great enough so it still was cool, but it wasn't the same and Izzy said as much. Izzy is rarely wrong. a neat thing I've noticed. (when he does talk which is also rare) None of that equates to the band's downfall though. It was still huge despite the loss of Steven. You're describing something entirely different. The downfall wasn't due to the band's sound, it was due to personalities that remained in the band way after Steven left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karice Posted Sunday at 12:31 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:31 PM 22 hours ago, F*ck Fear said: If you're referring to Steve Adler, I hate to break it to you but there were three other junkies in GNR at the time. The catalyst is Axl Rose. You can't tell me any different. Who says I meant Steven Adler? I could have meant social anxiety. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted Sunday at 12:39 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:39 PM 53 minutes ago, DoMw94 said: None of that equates to the band's downfall though. It was still huge despite the loss of Steven. You're describing something entirely different. The downfall wasn't due to the band's sound, it was due to personalities that remained in the band way after Steven left. the downfall was when Slash left 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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