RussTCB 17,932 Posted February 18 2 hours ago, ludurigan said: oh! nothing to do? really? are you serious? so tell me, who OWNS this nonsense that presents itself to the world as guns n' roses? who CALLS THE SHOTS in this nonsense? let me connect A to B for you: it is Axl Rose calling the shots on everything that involves this nonsense that presents itself to the world as guns n' roses since at least 1996 if these nonsense takedowns are happening on youtube, ebay, lyrics sites, wherever, it is because axl rose WANTS IT to happen or ALLOWS IT to happen and that is why i love, i really love when people come here in this forum to say that "Axl Rose has a vision for GNR" yeah right i couldn't have said better See below: 2 hours ago, History2010 said: If you reach any farther you might fall over! Be careful!!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Len Cnut 13,614 Posted February 18 (edited) Quote and that is why i love, i really love when people come here in this forum to say that "Axl Rose has a vision for GNR" He does, it involves clearing off his various mortgages and the financing of his sports cars, Audemars watches and Halloween parties. Edited February 18 by Len Cnut 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soon 6,178 Posted February 18 Different sites have different methods of processing claims. Metro is maybe the easiest, so its first. Maybe Metro is more like YT and just removes everything thats claimed without investigation? Hopefully others are more rigorous and investigate claims. *************** I just had an idea: Someone start a lyric site. Wait for the claim from bagel boy, then proceed with due diligence and contact the actual copy holders to ask if bagel is working on their behalf? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waemoth 138 Posted February 18 1 hour ago, soon said: Different sites have different methods of processing claims. Metro is maybe the easiest, so its first. Maybe Metro is more like YT and just removes everything thats claimed without investigation? Hopefully others are more rigorous and investigate claims. *************** I just had an idea: Someone start a lyric site. Wait for the claim from bagel boy, then proceed with due diligence and contact the actual copy holders to ask if bagel is working on their behalf? Sharing fake bootlegs could also be hilarious. Just imagine forcing them to download ~1GB over and over, just to find that just about all them contains something ridiculous. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azifwekare 1,541 Posted February 18 32 minutes ago, Waemoth said: Sharing fake bootlegs could also be hilarious. Just imagine forcing them to download ~1GB over and over, just to find that just about all them contains something ridiculous. We need to do this. Alfie boy attempting takedowns on 2 1/2 hour Rick Roll loops. 3 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jamillos 791 Posted February 18 I don't know this site, but you can still just google it, no big deal. The fun will start when the main google page tells you to fuck off in this regard...! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OmarBradley 1,243 Posted February 18 6 hours ago, soon said: Different sites have different methods of processing claims. Metro is maybe the easiest, so its first. Maybe Metro is more like YT and just removes everything thats claimed without investigation? Hopefully others are more rigorous and investigate claims. *************** I just had an idea: Someone start a lyric site. Wait for the claim from bagel boy, then proceed with due diligence and contact the actual copy holders to ask if bagel is working on their behalf? It would take 2-3 minutes tops to start a Wix/similar site and paste a few sets of lyrics on it. I'd do it if I cared enough, but I don't. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Live Like a Suicide 2,019 Posted February 19 This has got to the point where these actions must almost certainly be sanctioned by Team Brazil or the band's label. How a band, that mostly survived on fan loyalty and contributions during its stagnant periods, can be okay with this is beyond me. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ratam 3,163 Posted February 19 3 hours ago, Live Like a Suicide said: This has got to the point where these actions must almost certainly be sanctioned by Team Brazil or the band's label. How a band, that mostly survived on fan loyalty and contributions during its stagnant periods, can be okay with this is beyond me. And the band mostly survived thanks the Internet too. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lukepowell1988 1,437 Posted February 19 On 2/18/2019 at 2:10 AM, rocknroll41 said: I really hope GnR doesn’t become like Kiss where they try get their hands on everything... KISS are terrible for it but it wouldn't suprise me as a stunt Axl would try n pull 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DTJ80 260 Posted February 19 It might well be a another party involved in this. MetallicA have had to get involved numerous times as their legal team have read the riot act over all sorts of ‘copyright infringement’. One of them related to a lipstick called MetallicA for example! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fantomas 82 Posted February 19 Prince did something similar to the point he was suing fans for posting bootlegs. I respect copyright law, but without fans, you're nothing and with that fandom comes a culture of sharing. It generates and maintains a buzz and interest. I have recordings of Axl the day Use Your Illusion came out saying "hey, if you can't afford it, steal it". I question how involved the band is with this. Feels like overreaching management. 6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DTJ80 260 Posted February 19 43 minutes ago, fantomas said: Prince did something similar to the point he was suing fans for posting bootlegs. I respect copyright law, but without fans, you're nothing and with that fandom comes a culture of sharing. It generates and maintains a buzz and interest. I have recordings of Axl the day Use Your Illusion came out saying "hey, if you can't afford it, steal it". I question how involved the band is with this. Feels like overreaching management. That’s what I was saying above - it smacks of over-zealous legal representation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sidman69 1,081 Posted February 19 13 hours ago, Live Like a Suicide said: This has got to the point where these actions must almost certainly be sanctioned by Team Brazil or the band's label. How a band, that mostly survived on fan loyalty and contributions during its stagnant periods, can be okay with this is beyond me. Fernando claimed he wasn't aware of it a while back. Designing useless merchandise will do that to a person I suppose. I'm sure Beta has some involvement in this. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueJean Baby 9,190 Posted February 27 Looks like they are hitting Twitter today, one account I follow had several videos removed for copyright claims. 🤬 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
janrichmond 8,996 Posted February 27 37 minutes ago, BlueJean Baby said: Looks like they are hitting Twitter today, one account I follow had several videos removed for copyright claims. Who's account? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueJean Baby 9,190 Posted February 27 5 minutes ago, janrichmond said: Who's account? rickjones2323 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kwick1 687 Posted February 27 3 minutes ago, janrichmond said: Who's account? Rick Jones. 😡 yesterday he shared a video of the warm up for the Welcome to the Jungle. Truly great video. When are whoever is behind the takedowns going to realize that they're doing no favors for GnR? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DieselDaisy 15,787 Posted February 27 I've said for a long time that it is Guns/management doing all of the take downs. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
janrichmond 8,996 Posted February 27 Just now, BlueJean Baby said: rickjones2323 I didn't realise Twitter was one of alfreds targets, I guess he's expanding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueJean Baby 9,190 Posted February 27 I do not believe it is the band or their management 🤬 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
janrichmond 8,996 Posted February 27 1 minute ago, DieselDaisy said: I've said for a long time that it is Guns/management doing all of the take downs. I really don't think the band themselves are even aware of the takedowns, or the magnitude of it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sidman69 1,081 Posted February 27 1 minute ago, BlueJean Baby said: I do not believe it is the band or their management 🤬 i've heard from people in the camp that beta is having a hand in it. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
janrichmond 8,996 Posted February 27 I believe TB are (totally) aware 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
janrichmond 8,996 Posted February 27 8 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: I've said for a long time that it is Guns/management doing all of the take downs. TB not the band Share this post Link to post Share on other sites