Free Bird Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 I say add tracks to it! Tbh... if I had to change anything on WOF, it would be the outro of Wicked Stone. I would make it more than 2 minutes longer to fill the empty space on the disk. Just the instrumental part. It's so freaking awesome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay410 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I've been listening to it on repeat for the past couple days. I can pretty much do without tracks 2-5. It had the same problem as apocalyptic love. Dad rock with Myles Kemmedy singing. Songs where Slash branches out more are awesome. Myles does pretty much ruin the whole thing for me. Though to his credit, The Dissident is a catchy tune. Safari Inn is outstanding. Slash's playing is only getting better in my opinion, but his songwriting is about the same or worse and Myles doesn't help. Dirty girl is awful too. Sorry, sort of a stream of conscious review. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 I say add tracks to it! Tbh... if I had to change anything on WOF, it would be the outro of Wicked Stone. I would make it more than 2 minutes longer to fill the empty space on the disk. Just the instrumental part. It's so freaking awesome.Fucking right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I've been listening to it on repeat for the past couple days. I can pretty much do without tracks 2-5. It had the same problem as apocalyptic love. Dad rock with Myles Kemmedy singing. Songs where Slash branches out more are awesome. Myles does pretty much ruin the whole thing for me. Though to his credit, The Dissident is a catchy tune. Safari Inn is outstanding. Slash's playing is only getting better in my opinion, but his songwriting is about the same or worse and Myles doesn't help. Dirty girl is awful too. Sorry, sort of a stream of conscious review.Totally fine that you didn't like them. That's not the problem. Just trying to argue why this album shouldn't be shorter. If you dislike some songs it's easy to skip them. Or do a copy without them. The opposite isn't that easy dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 GN'R fans!! Moan about stuff not being released then moan about stuff being too long when it is released. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Probably only Safari Inn I'll listen to long term, it's great though. No one does this kind of stuff in mainstream rock I've heard anyway.Automatic is a fun track but maybe Myles doesn't sell it very well. Safari Inn is the Anastasia (solo wise, not as a song) of the album. Slash proves again he still has the ability to connect those notes in that Slash way. Always at least 1 tune in every album that you can go: "ah yeah there it is. That's Slash when he's in beast mode" for this album, he did the Too Far Gone solo, Wicked Stone's twin solos, and Safari Inn, in which it sounds like he was channeling the old Slash spirit for a few minutes there. Liked it from first listen, but also thought it sounded like Watch This and had the same old Slash licks, but it sounded cool.Now I agree it's a classic. It goes on to another gear when you think Slash played his peak note crazy bend, he continues to use the momentum of his playing, always knowing by instinct where to play on the neck. It's a very pleasant listen. It's a keeper for sure. Now use that in a song. And think about what Axl could have done with years of access to that kind of talent if Slash was still in Guns.On something like TIL it could have taken it further. SOD, TWAT, Catcher maybe but Axl might have to settle for 2 takes and out. With Slash label has no problem and so it would have been ready by 97? Slash contributing Fall to Pieces and Slither he had in his back pocket so use them to subdue the 80s hair metal vampires. Slip TIL in as the 3rd single when everyone has passed out. Maybe Shuffle it All 4th single when they out playing Targets around the US. black n white road movie video. I see it all clearly. Nostalgia Golgotha is a state of crucified past. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmapelian Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Probably only Safari Inn I'll listen to long term, it's great though. No one does this kind of stuff in mainstream rock I've heard anyway.Automatic is a fun track but maybe Myles doesn't sell it very well. Safari Inn is the Anastasia (solo wise, not as a song) of the album. Slash proves again he still has the ability to connect those notes in that Slash way. Always at least 1 tune in every album that you can go: "ah yeah there it is. That's Slash when he's in beast mode" for this album, he did the Too Far Gone solo, Wicked Stone's twin solos, and Safari Inn, in which it sounds like he was channeling the old Slash spirit for a few minutes there. Liked it from first listen, but also thought it sounded like Watch This and had the same old Slash licks, but it sounded cool.Now I agree it's a classic. It goes on to another gear when you think Slash played his peak note crazy bend, he continues to use the momentum of his playing, always knowing by instinct where to play on the neck. It's a very pleasant listen. It's a keeper for sure. Now use that in a song. And think about what Axl could have done with years of access to that kind of talent if Slash was still in Guns.I thought of the unholy as this albums Anastasia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Probably only Safari Inn I'll listen to long term, it's great though. No one does this kind of stuff in mainstream rock I've heard anyway.Automatic is a fun track but maybe Myles doesn't sell it very well. Safari Inn is the Anastasia (solo wise, not as a song) of the album. Slash proves again he still has the ability to connect those notes in that Slash way. Always at least 1 tune in every album that you can go: "ah yeah there it is. That's Slash when he's in beast mode" for this album, he did the Too Far Gone solo, Wicked Stone's twin solos, and Safari Inn, in which it sounds like he was channeling the old Slash spirit for a few minutes there. Liked it from first listen, but also thought it sounded like Watch This and had the same old Slash licks, but it sounded cool.Now I agree it's a classic. It goes on to another gear when you think Slash played his peak note crazy bend, he continues to use the momentum of his playing, always knowing by instinct where to play on the neck. It's a very pleasant listen. It's a keeper for sure. Now use that in a song. And think about what Axl could have done with years of access to that kind of talent if Slash was still in Guns.I thought of the unholy as this albums AnastasiaWicked Stone to me. So basically we've got three Anastasias on this album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmapelian Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Probably only Safari Inn I'll listen to long term, it's great though. No one does this kind of stuff in mainstream rock I've heard anyway.Automatic is a fun track but maybe Myles doesn't sell it very well. Safari Inn is the Anastasia (solo wise, not as a song) of the album. Slash proves again he still has the ability to connect those notes in that Slash way. Always at least 1 tune in every album that you can go: "ah yeah there it is. That's Slash when he's in beast mode" for this album, he did the Too Far Gone solo, Wicked Stone's twin solos, and Safari Inn, in which it sounds like he was channeling the old Slash spirit for a few minutes there. Liked it from first listen, but also thought it sounded like Watch This and had the same old Slash licks, but it sounded cool.Now I agree it's a classic. It goes on to another gear when you think Slash played his peak note crazy bend, he continues to use the momentum of his playing, always knowing by instinct where to play on the neck. It's a very pleasant listen. It's a keeper for sure. Now use that in a song. And think about what Axl could have done with years of access to that kind of talent if Slash was still in Guns.I thought of the unholy as this albums AnastasiaWicked Stone to me. So basically we've got three Anastasias on this album. 3 is better than 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Wicked Stone, 30 Years to Life, The Unholy, all amazing tracks (though I'd cut a minute or so out of the middle of The Unholy). I listen to them nearly every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Annatasia is overrated. It kind of goes nowhere, same as Unholy. They are okay for a couple of minutes but they get repetitive and by the end it's like is that it? Maybe that's just more commercial. Solid album tracks but considering they could go Safari Inn it's like wasted opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Anastasia is his modern classic, it's got everything you could ever want from Slash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) Probably only Safari Inn I'll listen to long term, it's great though. No one does this kind of stuff in mainstream rock I've heard anyway.Automatic is a fun track but maybe Myles doesn't sell it very well. Safari Inn is the Anastasia (solo wise, not as a song) of the album. Slash proves again he still has the ability to connect those notes in that Slash way. Always at least 1 tune in every album that you can go: "ah yeah there it is. That's Slash when he's in beast mode" for this album, he did the Too Far Gone solo, Wicked Stone's twin solos, and Safari Inn, in which it sounds like he was channeling the old Slash spirit for a few minutes there. Liked it from first listen, but also thought it sounded like Watch This and had the same old Slash licks, but it sounded cool.Now I agree it's a classic. It goes on to another gear when you think Slash played his peak note crazy bend, he continues to use the momentum of his playing, always knowing by instinct where to play on the neck. It's a very pleasant listen. It's a keeper for sure. Now use that in a song. And think about what Axl could have done with years of access to that kind of talent if Slash was still in Guns.On something like TIL it could have taken it further. SOD, TWAT, Catcher maybe but Axl might have to settle for 2 takes and out. With Slash label has no problem and so it would have been ready by 97? Slash contributing Fall to Pieces and Slither he had in his back pocket so use them to subdue the 80s hair metal vampires. Slip TIL in as the 3rd single when everyone has passed out. Maybe Shuffle it All 4th single when they out playing Targets around the US. black n white road movie video. I see it all clearly. Nostalgia Golgotha is a state of crucified past."I promise not to be late as shit to every show and delay albums" "cool, I promise not to be a close minded retard in the studio and record more then 2 takes cause I won't be lazy as fuck".But Axl is insane and Slash won't apologize ever lol. Edited October 22, 2014 by Rovim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmapelian Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Probably only Safari Inn I'll listen to long term, it's great though. No one does this kind of stuff in mainstream rock I've heard anyway.Automatic is a fun track but maybe Myles doesn't sell it very well. Safari Inn is the Anastasia (solo wise, not as a song) of the album. Slash proves again he still has the ability to connect those notes in that Slash way. Always at least 1 tune in every album that you can go: "ah yeah there it is. That's Slash when he's in beast mode" for this album, he did the Too Far Gone solo, Wicked Stone's twin solos, and Safari Inn, in which it sounds like he was channeling the old Slash spirit for a few minutes there. Liked it from first listen, but also thought it sounded like Watch This and had the same old Slash licks, but it sounded cool.Now I agree it's a classic. It goes on to another gear when you think Slash played his peak note crazy bend, he continues to use the momentum of his playing, always knowing by instinct where to play on the neck. It's a very pleasant listen. It's a keeper for sure. Now use that in a song. And think about what Axl could have done with years of access to that kind of talent if Slash was still in Guns.I thought of the unholy as this albums AnastasiaWicked Stone to me. So basically we've got three Anastasias on this album. I love the twin tones he uses on the 1st solo in wicked stone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I do not know how it is even possible, to overrate 'Anastasia', such is the fretwork? I am (semi) critical of his solo career but Slash completely got it right on that song - and live of course, it becomes a different beast entirely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 It's okay, it's an idea, but it's not up there with any real classic like Estranged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 The guitar work is up there with 'Estranged'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmapelian Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Annatasia is overrated. It kind of goes nowhere, same as Unholy. They are okay for a couple of minutes but they get repetitive and by the end it's like is that it? Maybe that's just more commercial. Solid album tracks but considering they could go Safari Inn it's like wasted opportunity.Couldn't disagree more. Knowing what the unholy is about makes it all the more epic; and Anastasia is a beast live. If you want to talk about songs not going anywhere, listen to Chinese Democracy. TWAT drones on for about 3 minutes with axl whining how he would do anything for stephanie 20 years after the fact she left his ass. Talk about a song not going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I doubt any of these songs will be classics. I feel like TWAT does with the solos, the choir, it escalates to a finale. Axl is good at that. Anatasia is like Ghost 2 the ballad. It just keeps repeating what is a decent chorus. I feel No More Heroes is better. It builds to the solo, ebbs and flows. Not that big a deal, just how I see Anatasia, I'm surprised people think its so good. I keep listening to it because it gets a lot of mentions. I will continue to listen to it. To me Slither and Fall to Pieces are the modern classics. They would go on my post UYI GNR related playlist for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 The guitar work is up there with 'Estranged'.Maybe but it's nowhere as well put together. This is hardly debateable. It seems kind of repetitive, after 4 mins it's still going Anatasia, Anatasia. It just doesn't give me many images. There's just hardly anything there and people are like it's a modern classic. We in deep trouble if this is classic track of the era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmapelian Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I doubt any of these songs will be classics. I feel like TWAT does with the solos, the choir, it escalates to a finale. Axl is good at that. Anatasia is like Ghost 2 the ballad. It just keeps repeating what is a decent chorus. I feel No More Heroes is better. It builds to the solo, ebbs and flows.Not that big a deal, just how I see Anatasia, I'm surprised people think its so good. I keep listening to it because it gets a lot of mentions. I will continue to listen to it.To me Slither and Fall to Pieces are the modern classics. They would go on my post UYI GNR related playlist for sure.Dude, the solo and vocal outro to TWAT goes on for 3 minutes sing and playing the same lines. "I would do anything for you, there was a time" repeat 250x'sI doubt any of these songs will be classics. I feel like TWAT does with the solos, the choir, it escalates to a finale. Axl is good at that. Anatasia is like Ghost 2 the ballad. It just keeps repeating what is a decent chorus. I feel No More Heroes is better. It builds to the solo, ebbs and flows.Not that big a deal, just how I see Anatasia, I'm surprised people think its so good. I keep listening to it because it gets a lot of mentions. I will continue to listen to it.To me Slither and Fall to Pieces are the modern classics. They would go on my post UYI GNR related playlist for sure.I'd say Slash has more modern classics than axl does since they split; by miles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Nobody listens to Anastasia for the chorus though, it is the quality of the fretwork people listen to it for. It is genius. I could listen to Slash play the guitar on Anastasia every day - especially as he varies it up live. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I dig the big lumbering elephant walk sound of the intro for Beneath The Savage Sun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 'The Unholy' is a very good song. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I forced me not to hear a single song of WOF in the last couple of weeks. But now the waiting is over. Tomorrow I'll give the whole thing another listen. Now that I know the songs and I'm not too euphoric anymore, maybe I can build a more objective opinion about them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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