Iron MikeyJ Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) Kylo Ten is in now way shape or form more powerful than Vader. Yes stopping the blaster was something we have never seen before, but that doesn't mean no one else could do it. It has more to do with no one else (director's) thinking of it. Darth Vader is the most powerful Sith (as of now) that we know of in the official cannon (films). Kylo Ren would be the weakest at this point, Darth Maul would take him in dual. Edited December 23, 2015 by Iron MikeyJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 We've seen the blaster stop before.Anyway, I can't stand reading theories but I did like this one:"Addressing the complaint about Rey all of a sudden having mastery of the Force:My theory is that not only Rey is Luke's daughter, but she had actually begun training as a Jedi (they're supposed to start really young, remember?). She was left on Jakku as protection from Kylo and Snoke and her memories suppressed.Snoke referred to "an awakening". When Rey touched the saber it acted as a key - sort of like when someone has amnesia/repressed memories and something jolts them into remembering stuff from the past. So she is instinctively remembering her Jedi training as she progresses through the rest of the film. Her Force training has awakened." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppelin Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Yeah, I've been reading those theories too. I really think the key for this trilogy going forward is that "flashback" scene with Rey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 We've seen the blaster stop before.Anyway, I can't stand reading theories but I did like this one:"Addressing the complaint about Rey all of a sudden having mastery of the Force:My theory is that not only Rey is Luke's daughter, but she had actually begun training as a Jedi (they're supposed to start really young, remember?). She was left on Jakku as protection from Kylo and Snoke and her memories suppressed.Snoke referred to "an awakening". When Rey touched the saber it acted as a key - sort of like when someone has amnesia/repressed memories and something jolts them into remembering stuff from the past. So she is instinctively remembering her Jedi training as she progresses through the rest of the film. Her Force training has awakened."So...she's Jason Bourne? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Also forgot to mention, Captain Phasma was useless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron MikeyJ Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Snoke may or may not be Darth Plageuis, it doesn't really matter either way. But who he is, I guarantee is Anakin's father. He started it all, and Anakin will be discovered as not being the chosen one, because he did indeed have a father. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 there was also a theory going around today rey is obi wan's daughter or somehow related to obi wan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little EMO Annie Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 I loved this movie! How long do we have to wait for the sequel? And what is the lifespan of a wookie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 I loved this movie! How long do we have to wait for the sequel? And what is the lifespan of a wookie?episode VIII comes out may 26, 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little EMO Annie Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Thanks. I was afraid we were going to have to wait another 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gackt Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 there was also a theory going around today rey is obi wan's daughter or somehow related to obi wan.That's been around for a while. Further fueled by Obi-Wan saying "Rey" and "These are your first steps" in Rey's vision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Her being Obi-Wan's daughter, age-wise, just doesn't make sense to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Her being Obi-Wan's daughter, age-wise, just doesn't make sense to me.Obi-Wan, you dirty old fucker! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarBradley Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Her being Obi-Wan's daughter, age-wise, just doesn't make sense to me.Obi-Wan, you dirty old fucker!Even if Obi-wan banged some chick the day before he left with Luke that still wouldn't work numbers-wise, that would mean Rey is in her early 30's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Her being Obi-Wan's daughter, age-wise, just doesn't make sense to me.Obi-Wan, you dirty old fucker!Even if Obi-wan banged some chick the day before he left with Luke that still wouldn't work numbers-wise, that would mean Rey is in her early 30's.Artificial insemination. They had Alec Guinness's jizz in storage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 She's Luke's daughter and Kylo killed her mother/Luke's girlfriend/wife. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 24, 2015 Author Share Posted December 24, 2015 Also forgot to mention, Captain Phasma was useless.Just like Brienne of Tarth on Game of Thrones. Played by the same actress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 24, 2015 Author Share Posted December 24, 2015 Chinese people love American movies. No idea why.In the US though, it has already made $325 million. Will it surpass Jurassic World? Titanic? Avatar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 24, 2015 Author Share Posted December 24, 2015 Not a spoiler but JJ Abrams says the script for episode VIII is so good he wish he was directing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 (edited) Not a spoiler but JJ Abrams says the script for episode VIII is so good he wish he was directing it. I like the guy more than most people seem to, but I think it's good we're getting a different writer/director for each film. Could help to keep it fresh. And while I really liked Force Awakens, I definitely would like the next one could tone down a bit on the references/ rhyming, and I think Rian may be a bit better at pulling that off than JJ would be. That's exciting to hear that the script for VIII is apparently THAT good tho Edited December 24, 2015 by rocknroll41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 I find him as untalented a filmmaker as could be conceived. He co-wrote Armageddon for crying out loud! Abrams is essentially the more recent of the brand of directors which include Michael Bay and Roland Emmerich, a sub-Spielbergean generation of CGI obsessed hacks and schmaltz generators. If you want to look at why Hollywood is so bad now, a good place to start would be to look at Bay, Emmerich and Abrams and analyse their respective careers. Abrams' own niche in that he seems to be the 'go to man' when you want to reboot a failing sci-fi franchise. Abrams basically reassembles all of the nostalgic tropes together to maximize the commercial potential of a distinct 'brand' (i.e. not a film) for a dimwitted generation who is content to be spoon fed big mouthfuls of fast food. He is a Macdonalds directer basically, falling back on E Numbers and artificial sweeteners and delivering up slabs of CGI to a crowd who are content to eat appalling food. His films are completely devoid of substance, artistry or charm. They are soulless pictures. What was done to Star Trek was a travesty, and he appears to be doing the same to Star Wars. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 24, 2015 Author Share Posted December 24, 2015 Not a spoiler but JJ Abrams says the script for episode VIII is so good he wish he was directing it. I like the guy more than most people seem to, but I think it's good we're getting a different writer/director for each film. Could help to keep it fresh. And while I really liked Force Awakens, I definitely would like the next one could tone down a bit on the references/ rhyming, and I think Rian may be a bit better at pulling that off than JJ would be. That's exciting to hear that the script for VIII is apparently THAT good thoI think the reasoning is that as soon as the first film is finished and prepping for release, the director can help promote it while the next one is working on pre-production, casting and eventually the filming of the next chapter. It makes sure the film is released on time and prevents the director from being burnt out from shooting back to back. So we will get Episode VIII without it feeling rushed. If they have to they will push it back to December to give it more time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 I find him as untalented a filmmaker as could be conceived. He co-wrote Armageddon for crying out loud! Abrams is essentially the more recent of the brand of directors which include Michael Bay and Roland Emmerich, a sub-Spielbergean generation of CGI obsessed hacks and schmaltz generators. If you want to look at why Hollywood is so bad now, a good place to start would be to look at Bay, Emmerich and Abrams and analyse their respective careers. Abrams' own niche in that he seems to be the 'go to man' when you want to reboot a failing sci-fi franchise. Abrams basically reassembles all of the nostalgic tropes together to maximize the commercial potential of a distinct 'brand' (i.e. not a film) for a dimwitted generation who is content to be spoon fed big mouthfuls of fast food. He is a Macdonalds directer basically, falling back on E Numbers and artificial sweeteners and delivering up slabs of CGI to a crowd who are content to eat appalling food. His films are completely devoid of substance, artistry or charm. They are soulless pictures. What was done to Star Trek was a travesty, and he appears to be doing the same to Star Wars.Wasn't a huge fan of the Star Treks films (mind you, most in the series save for First Contact haven't been that great either), but I really loved Abrams film Super 8. Not sure I'd call that movie soulless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppelin Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Her being Obi-Wan's daughter, age-wise, just doesn't make sense to me.I hear that she would be his granddaughter if she's a Kenobi. But I still don't think that'll be the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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