Bono Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Ugh. That's so very unfortunate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Vince answers conference call question on Sting"We took someone from obscurity and developed that character and made it important," Vince said. He again said they took him from "obscurity to a main event of WrestleMania."Source: http://prowrestling.net/article.php?03-30-WWE-Conference-Call-live-coverage-WWE-Network-subscriber-count-revealed-Vince-McMahon-and-George-Barrios-address-the-number-41588Don't be so hard on Vince, his booking decisions have shows for years that he has a terrible memory when it comes to wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) Re-watching Mania now... It's such a shame that Vince just wanted WWE to beat WCW one more time. The match is just really awesome, with DX and the NWO involved. But none of the decisions made sense.Sting is the face here, Trips the heel.Sting and the NWO feuded for years. NWO has always been a heel faction. I think they wanted the crowd to like HBK stepping up for WWE (face, in Vince's book) and having Trips (heel) pick up the win.But he got a pretty poor reaction because the crowd favoured Sting.It's just silly booking which I'd be willing to overlook due to it's historic awesomeness. But the Sting still deserved the win. I hope he beats Taker at Mania next year. This was Vince not wanting to be beaten by WCW. This pisses me off more than it should. I hope Trips comes out tonight on RAW, calls out Sting and out welcomes him to the WWE. Hard earned respect etc. That way we're past the WCW thing and Sting can pick up a win next time. Edited March 30, 2015 by username Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 cenawinslol also still pisses me off! I mean, fuck this shit! If Vince still has such a fucking boner for Cena just have him pass out to not make him look weak. This should have been used to shoot someone else into super stardom. I hope Rusev wins it back at Extreme Rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bono Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I would hate for Taker to lose to Sting at this point. To me that would make even less sense than having him lose to a guy who didn't need any push whatsoever and even less sense than beating Wyatt. Sting over taker? For what? Now that Wyatt has lost to both Cena and Taker within a year his character is almost useless now. Might as well have Sting fight Wyatt and give Sting a win that way. And yeah Cena winning again makes very little sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner55 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) Re-watching Mania now... It's such a shame that Vince just wanted WWE to beat WCW one more time. The match is just really awesome, with DX and the NWO involved. But none of the decisions made sense.Sting is the face here, Trips the heel.Sting and the NWO feuded for years. NWO has always been a heel faction. I think they wanted the crowd to like HBK stepping up for WWE (face, in Vince's book) and having Trips (heel) pick up the win.But he got a pretty poor reaction because the crowd favoured Sting.It's just silly booking which I'd be willing to overlook due to it's historic awesomeness. But the Sting still deserved the win. I hope he beats Taker at Mania next year. This was Vince not wanting to be beaten by WCW. This pisses me off more than it should. I hope Trips comes out tonight on RAW, calls out Sting and out welcomes him to the WWE. Hard earned respect etc. That way we're past the WCW thing and Sting can pick up a win next time. This is EXACTLY what I thought. Figure they must have had to pay Sting a good chunk of change to get him to come in for that after him blowing them off for 14 years. Gotta download RAW for tomorrow. Post Mania raw crowds make the show. And of course it's not included in my cable anymore.Also hoped undertakers match went differently. Was hoping for him to lose last night. I have a gut feeling that next year will be his retirement, so I thought it made sense to have him lose to Wyatt and then spend the year in character pondering if he can still do this and then have his final match at next years wrestlemania. Fantasy booking I guess. Edited March 30, 2015 by Gunner55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Mania ratings:Pre-Show Tag: **1/2Andre Royal: *****IC Ladder Match: ***1/2Orton-Rollins: ****HHH-Sting: ***Divas: didntwatchlolCena-Rusev: **3/4Taker-Wyatt: **Lesnar-Reigns(-Rollins): ****1/2You're the same one who was complaining about "smarks" right? Ha!Hm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I just re-watched the Sting/HHH match, and did anyone see Kevin Nash fall to the ground clutching his leg? Guarentee he tore his quad again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I just re-watched the Sting/HHH match, and did anyone see Kevin Nash fall to the ground clutching his leg? Guarentee he tore his quad again...He laughed it off on Twitter with a joke about Billy Gunn's workrate, seems to be alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majormayhem Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I just re-watched the Sting/HHH match, and did anyone see Kevin Nash fall to the ground clutching his leg? Guarentee he tore his quad again...I thought that, too. But, then I thought, "maybe that's what he wants us to think..." Hmmmm.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 this heyman promo is godlike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Crowd seems more tame compared to last years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Crowd seems more tame compared to last yearsIf that means they're not going to ruin the show by chanting stupid shit, I'm all for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLegend Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) I went back to try and find the last time Lesnar Wrestled on TV. Couldn't find the Raw match due to the brand extension, but I know he appeared on the specials back then.Last TV match I found wasLesnar vs. Hardcore HollyMarch 4, 2004 (SmackDown!) http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/results/smackdown/040304.html Edited March 31, 2015 by AtariLegend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 bryan vs ziggler if done right could be an amazing rivalry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 heel sheamus looks like he got a haircut with a lawnmower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 That match ending was utter bollocks though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Holy shit Sheamus's new look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 "you look stupid" "you look stupid" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 an ascension sighting...... the lucha dragons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 That "new day sucks" chant was pure gold 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I actually like Sheamus' new look as a heel thing. This has been a great Raw so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 That "new day sucks" chant was pure goldkofi is being wasted in new day.damn that was a pretty good match 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLegend Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Those Lucha's are abit too over tonight, I bet a losing streak is coming in a month. Remember what happened when Cesaro ect. got over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Two great matches, a debut, a return and an outstanding promo makes a great hour for Conor. More than happy for them to send Brock out every hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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