DeadSlash Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 (edited) I'm surprised that there isn't a topic on this, if there is and I missed it I'm sorry. Just in a nut shell, The Dudley Boys turned heel (meaning they are bad guys) and in their first speech explaining why they turned bad they mentioned something along the lines of "We are not a nostalgia act Like Guns n' Roses who came back to ride off into the sunset" (Not the exact quote if someone knows it, post it but I know it's pretty close.) I looked for a link to the speech on YouTube but couldn't find it. I'm wondering if it was a planned, paid for plug, or just the Dudley Boys using a current topic. For those wondering why an insult might be construed to be a plug, you have to understand something basic about wrestling: because the Dudley's are "bad guys" now, they say good things are bad, and bad things are good, it makes people boo them. For example, if they were in Denver, the would say "Von Miller sucks, Cam Newton was sick or the Panthers would have crushed your crappy Broncos!" Just to get the crowd to boo. I'm also curious how many people, if any had not been here in a while and came back after the comment, somehow unaware that GnR had reunited and genuinely surprised at the comment and wanted to know more. Facts: WWE has a lot of viewers and will pretty much whore themselves to advertise anything. WWE does a lot of music and album promotions. WWE tightly controls what wrestlers say, it's much more scripted than you might think. (The speeches, obviously the matches are scripted) WWE has a huge audience and social media presence. I would not be surprised is GnR trended in some fashion in that hour. The promotion of this tour has had some non traditional approaches (Star Wars trailer is a perfect example.) Your thoughts? PS. it just occurred to me this might be mentioned in the "Wrestling thread." But this deserves a post in the discussion section, for all the reasons listed above, was it marketing? Did anyone find out about the reunion after hearing the comment and researching etc. Edited February 22, 2016 by DeadSlash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJones90 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 I very much doubt it was promotional because it was a dig at them. I remember bubba mentioning GNR before in the past, something like "as axl rose says, you're in the jungle and you're gonna die" or something along those lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadSlash Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share Posted February 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, OJones90 said: I very much doubt it was promotional because it was a dig at them. I remember bubba mentioning GNR before in the past, something like "as axl rose says, you're in the jungle and you're gonna die" or something along those lines. That's just it, a dig isn't a dig when it's coming from a heel, Bubba and Devon have both referenced GnR in the past going back to ECW years, in ways that make them seem like fans. If someone popular, like The Rock or Steve Austin called them a nostalgia act, it would be an insult, no doubt, but this was a speech meant to get heat or hatred from the crowd, intentionally saying something they would dislike to make them boo. (For the record there was not much of a reaction, leading me to believe this is not as well know of an event as we might think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Doubt it was a paid plug. My best guess is that they are G N' R fans....or at least their writers are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAFC Nick Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 If I'm correct, Motley Crue is Bubba's favourite band of all time, so I'm sure it's just that he is a fan - nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gackt Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 They're heels and want to get a rise out of the crowd, and WWE tries to be very "hip" with pop culture references There's nothing for curiosity out of the Dudley promo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristmasFnatic Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Jericho in RAW last month said GNR is back. Social Outcasts mentioned GNR as well. Curtis AXEL and Adam ROSE. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 I'd say it's promotion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLegend Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Considering the ratings, I don't think WWE Raw would be the most optimal place to put over Guns N' Roses. It's extremely unlikely a throwaway comment in a 3 1/2 hour long show that week had anything else to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockphantom Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Perhaps Guns will perform a song or two at Wrestlemania? Axl's right hand man, Del James, is a HUGE wrestling fan... Imagine a live performance of Jungle at the Superbowl of Wrestling coupled with the shocking return of CM Punk?!? The odds of this happening are... One In A Million.... However, it would get people talking about WWE and GNR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-p-d-a Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 I remember SummerSlam 2009 at LA Staples Center. Slash was in the audience and they showed Slash. The namesplate showed "Slash - Guns N' Roses" LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 16 minutes ago, AtariLegend said: Considering the ratings, I don't think WWE Raw would be the most optimal place to put over Guns N' Roses. It's extremely unlikely a throwaway comment in a 3 1/2 hour long show that week had anything else to it. This is the answer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlashisGOD Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 WWE used the song Chinese Democracy back in 2008 for one of their pay per views. I remember back in 1997 I think when ECW used November Rain during a promo for their November to Remember ppv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Ask Del James, he was involved in the wrestling world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 IIRC the quote was something like "we are not a failed nostalgia act, we are not guns n roses" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilAsh2015 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Absolutely no way this was a plug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadSlash Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 Seems like the consensus is it was not a plug, but I'm still not convinced. WWE doesn't do a lot for free. 7 hours ago, rockphantom said: Perhaps Guns will perform a song or two at Wrestlemania? Axl's right hand man, Del James, is a HUGE wrestling fan... Imagine a live performance of Jungle at the Superbowl of Wrestling coupled with the shocking return of CM Punk?!? The odds of this happening are... One In A Million.... However, it would get people talking about WWE and GNR! This could have been a feeler. A lot of celeb appearances in WrestleMania start with a simple throw away line like that. Then in a few weeks, the celeb "takes exception" to the comment and the next thing you know, they are headed to mania. The timing of the first show of the reunion and WrestleMania are awful close. Big bands play mania pretty often. We will know either way in a few weeks. It will turn into something or it wont. I think WWE's ratings are irrelevant, Mania is seen by millions, even when I wasn't watching wrestling I watched mania every year. It's a way to make a shit load more people aware of the reunion than are at the present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Gunner Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 8 hours ago, AtariLegend said: Considering the ratings, I don't think WWE Raw would be the most optimal place to put over Guns N' Roses. It's extremely unlikely a throwaway comment in a 3 1/2 hour long show that week had anything else to it. this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real McCoy Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Christian was wearing a GN'R shirt at the end of the Edge and Christian show on the WWE Network tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadSlash Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 1 hour ago, The Real McCoy said: Christian was wearing a GN'R shirt at the end of the Edge and Christian show on the WWE Network tonight. Could just be a fan... but anyone who follows wrestling know what tight control WWE has over what they allow wrestlers to say and wear. It might be looser on WWE network shows than it is on RAW. Who knows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real McCoy Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, DeadSlash said: Could just be a fan... but anyone who follows wrestling know what tight control WWE has over what they allow wrestlers to say and wear. It might be looser on WWE network shows than it is on RAW. Who knows. His jacket was half zipped up, but you could clearly see the bullet logo and GUNS N' on the shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrayWyatt Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Chris jericho also mentioned the gnr comeback on wwe raw in new orleans about 4 or 5 weeks back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturginho Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 What I wanna know is.... Is Axl f@cking going over???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bansidhe Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Buh Buh is a Guns fan. He's mentioned them before and wore GN'R shirts back in the ECW days. It's just a throwaway comment relevant to something he's a fan of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Cleaned up the thread some. If you have thoughts on the topic at hand, feel free to post in the topic. If you have thoughts on wrestling in general or it's fan base, then please take it to the wrestling thread in AG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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