Popular Post ironmt Posted November 26, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2018 5 hours ago, SAU3R said: I know I should just ignore them but tweets like these make me so fucking angry, being so full of yourself and without any empathy + writing things which are just plain WRONG as "ending the tour" well there are still 2 shows left motherfucker and "played only 10 songs" I know I shouldn't care but what I hate about Twitter and all social media is that idiots like those people are free to express their stupid nonsense opinion I couldn't agree more, but we live in a sick twisted world where It's all about me, me, me. If It doesn't affect me than who gives a fuck. A world where everyone is entitled to whatever they think they should have yet they are thin skinned assholes that are offended by everything, and I mean everything. Most people could see someone laying along side the road dying in front of them, yet they would keep on going because God forbid they might end up being a few minutes late to eat or buy a high tech electronic gadget. Fuck people and I truly mean that. I despise people and would much rather be around my dog. I live on 16 acres in the middle of the woods with a driveway 3/4 of a mile long. No one knows I exist and i wouldn't have it any other way. FUCK PEOPLE. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Tom-Ass said: Agreed but most other bands aren't charging these prices.. Either way they haven't missed a show in going on 3 years now. Shit happens.. Hope Axl is alright.. Never more appropiate to this situation that "shit happens"... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lame ass security Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, ironmt said: I couldn't agree more, but we live in a sick twisted world where It's all about me, me, me. If It doesn't affect me than who gives a fuck. A world where everyone is entitled to whatever they think they should have yet they are thin skinned assholes that are offended by everything, and I mean everything. Most people could see someone laying along side the road dying in front of them, yet they would keep on going because God forbid they might end up being a few minutes late to eat or buy a high tech electronic gadget. Fuck people and I truly mean that. I despise people and would much rather be around my dog. I live on 16 acres in the middle of the woods with a driveway 3/4 of a mile long. No one knows I exist and i wouldn't have it any other way. FUCK PEOPLE. I feel like you sometimes my friend, I know it's a very cynical attitude but it's difficult not to feel like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Seem this people never was sick❓.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerHair Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 5 hours ago, killuridols said: I can't understand why people here get so riled up for some anonymous Twitter comments.... Not that they are the official voice of everybody who attended. Although, probably many feel down because attending a show, paying tickets and all that jazz requires some effort. Ive not seen one second of this show but I wonder if the audience was fully aware of Axl being sick? Does everybody understand English over there? And I agree with the poster who said this probably could have been handled better, with a shorter setlist comprised of just the hits, no solo BS and an effective encore. Management fail. Those few tweets of anger really pisses me off but they are a tiny minority. I will not hang on my mood on a few idiots even because what I see is that the massive majority of people are showing concern or expressing props to Axl. But Management should have taken in consideration that there was a possibility that the man was not going to manage finishing his set. That is the work of management: 'Hope for the best, Prepare for the worst'. Or even, they could have thought that regardless of how much better he was because of the meds, it was better for his wellbeing to do a short setlist anyway. Had they front packed with the hits, no covers, fewer solos and surely that F1 audience would be happy enough and, probably, not even notice. Having said that, big props to Axl for doing the show and I can imagine the what he had to pull up to go on stage. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA_0013 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, vloors said: 17 songs played. Still more songs than most artists on a regular concert https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/guns-n-roses/2018/du-arena-at-yas-island-abu-dhabi-united-arab-emirates-397357f.html Kudos to Axl for even making it on stage - as soon as he came out he looked terrible, looked ill as fuck on the big screen. I thought the show was great - but it was massively bizarre for the casual fan. Huge Slash jam, extended DTJ, Wish You Were Here, Johnny B Goode, Godfather, extended Rocket Queen, Duff’s solo spot - this was essentially the show. No LALD, Nightrain, KOHD, PC etc. Most people were fucked right off leaving the arena considering how much the tickets cost. BTW - they sounded great. Most casual observers left thinking Slash was an absolute beast on the guitar. But very strange concert 8 hours ago, HOOSIER GUNZ said: Sounds like food poisoning to me. Dehydration. Axl is one a tuff mother fucker. He still went out there for over 120 minutes. thank you axl. He was on stage for very little of that. Slash and Duff earned them their Abu Dhabi dolla Edited November 26, 2018 by LA_0013 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifalucis Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Wow. Just wow. Poor Axl. Although if I were Axl I would have cancel the show instead, it is more professional that way. Good fans would have understand. Those fucking cunts can watch another concerts instead. Anyway, I googled the f1 concerts and found out in previous day during The Weeknd concert there was an incident. Hundreds of thousands of audiences stormed the gates so the securities had to closed them and they got angry, there was a bit of crowd pushing, no one got seriously hurt though but some people got arrested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgina Arriaga Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, GingerHair said: Those few tweets of anger really pisses me off but they are a tiny minority. I will not hang on my mood on a few idiots even because what I see is that the massive majority of people are showing concern or expressing props to Axl. But Management should have taken in consideration that there was a possibility that the man was not going to manage finishing his set. That is the work of management: 'Hope for the best, Prepare for the worst'. Or even, they could have thought that regardless of how much better he was because of the meds, it was better for his wellbeing to do a short setlist anyway. Had they front packed with the hits, no covers, fewer solos and surely that F1 audience would be happy enough and, probably, not even notice. Having said that, big props to Axl for doing the show and I can imagine the what he had to pull up to go on stage. GNR Manager (Fernando) was very busy posing for pictures in Formula 1 race, he was not worried... Edited November 26, 2018 by Georgina Arriaga 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sydney Fan Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Georgina Arriaga said: GNR Manager (Fernando) was very busy posing for pictures in Formula 1 race, he was not worried... So while axl is onstage sick and trying to push through, nando is trying to get photos?. Good to see gnr management was looking after the band and keeping an eye on the situation 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
©GnrPersia Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Ratam said: Seem this people never was sick❓.... nouveau riche & narcissistic expats of UAE never get sick. And they think everyone else is there to serve them. Wrong! Axl Rose is not your goddamn maid. Edited November 26, 2018 by ©GnrPersia 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lio Posted November 26, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2018 7 hours ago, Tyler Drama said: I guess. Maybe it comes down to, like, “I paid the same amount of money as people did to the last show, and got nearly half the songs.” It’s possible some of them would have preferred a refund, instead of an incomplete show. I understand being disappointed it wasn't a standard show, but they got a two hour show. It's not the cinema. It's a live show. Things can go wrong. Plus, if I'd have traveled to see GNR, booked a hotel, taken up leave, I would prefer a 2 hour show vastly over a refund. Would they refund all your expenses? Don't think so. People would've been pissed off too, because diva Axl wouldn't perform and they paid thousands on flights, hotels, etc. Once again it's been proven that you can never do right for some people. Happy to see that most appreciate they've done their best to give people a show, it's best to focus on that. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J. Frusciante Posted November 26, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2018 finally a different setlist and people still complain :-) 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA_0013 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 2 hours ago, ©GnrPersia said: nouveau riche & narcissistic expats of UAE never get sick. And they think everyone else is there to serve them. Wrong! Axl Rose is not your goddamn maid. ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litti Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 What's with the sick talk? He was sick and probably still is, don't need page after page about it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stress Fracture Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 A number of complaints are about not getting Paradise City, Nightrain and Patience and a set filled with solos and ill-fitting covers, including this review. https://www.thenational.ae/arts-culture/music/review-guns-n-roses-start-well-then-well-1.795947 So it’s a shame they didn’t make the most of the unfortunate situation and decide on a more focused two hour show with all the usual filler removed beforehand. It’s just unfortunate that you turn up to a truncated NITL show and still have to put up with Wichita Lineman when Axl could have easily done Patience in its place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F*ck Fear Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Regarding the filler, if Axl was as sick as he seemed to be, musical numbers that give him time away from the mic were probably played for that reason. Credit to Axl for putting on a good show in his condition! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgina Arriaga Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 47 minutes ago, Stress Fracture said: So it’s a shame they didn’t make the most of the unfortunate situation and decide on a more focused two hour show with all the usual filler removed beforehand. In my opinion the fillers were made to help him, of course they could have made a lot of things different....but I doubt that Axl could go 2 hours not stop in those health conditions 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA_0013 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Health issues aside - Axl sounded great. Slash stole the show, as per - but Axl gave it his all and did pretty well considering. Havent listened to any of the YouTube uploads - as has been said many times before - huge difference in listening to the recordings and what you actually hear at the show in a live setting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weaponsnflowers Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 This does goes to show that they have very sort of industrial production line type of approach to these shows. They go to work on time, churn out as many products (songs and jams) from the line as possible, mostly without deviation and get out. They have a schedule that contains that stuff in that order, if show has to be cut short, they don't produce other stuff, they go with the program until the line is shut down for the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikothebellic Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) Not In This Lifetime Tour has become a safe heaven for Guns N' Roses - no serious delays, incidents or fails were observed during the whole tour. However, a recent concert in Abu Dhabi slightly reminded about infamous times of the band's inconsistance. Guns N' Roses was headliners at the concert associated with F1 Championship in Abu Dhabi on November 25th, but the gig didn't go as planned - due to Axl's sickness half of songs were dropped and the set ended with November Rain. Total of 17 songs were played and it has become the first major concert-related issue for almost 3 years. Mostly, everybody and especially the fans, were supportive for Axl and the band, however, some individuals expressed critical dissatisfaction of the gig and how the band handled the situation. As for me, I have full respect for Axl, shit happens and nobody's perfect. Hope he'll be okay and put all the critics to their knees on the next gigs. Though, must say, probably the band and stuff could manage the situation better - to short the set in favour of hits and to jam after the most of the songs. Suppose, if they ended with Paradise City, prevailing "not target audience" wouldn't have noticed a thing. Maybe, it was initially planned, but Axl just couldn't take it anymore and they left earlier. So, not a big deal, all we're humans, nobody was hurt (except for Axl), life's go on. However, if to look from a more proffesional point of view, the thing is not so clear as there can be two sides of the story. If the band and management were fully aware of Axl's conditions (seems they were, as he did IV) and gave some options like changing the set or even cancelling the show, but Axl said, that he would do it anyway, then Axl is a real hero as he tried to satisfy the fans against all odds. But, we can't exclude the option, where Axl, as usual, was having fun all night, drinking etc., caught some shit and the band's management said "whatever, we are busy watching F1" and even knowing about Axl's condition, nobody was really concerned and the band was changing the set already during the show.... well, then it may rise some concerns about handling the situation. Yet again, if Axl didn't do anything excessive (got high, seriously drunk or something), therere no blame for him. So, what do you think about the situation? Was it anybody's fault? Will be there serious consequences? Edited November 26, 2018 by nikothebellic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lio Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Lauryn Hill did a show here last week. She turned up hours late and ended the set after 45 minutes. After half of the people had left, complaining about the lateness and short show, Lauryn decided to get back on stage and finish the set. For half the crowd. A few days later she posted this on Twitter. Now compare this to what happened yesterday. I don't understand all the drama to be honest. And I don't get all the criticism the band is getting. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, nikothebellic said: Not In This Lifetime Tour has become a safe heaven for Guns N' Roses - no serious delays, incidents or fails were observed during the whole tour. However, a recent concert in Abu Dhabi slightly reminded about infamous times of the band's inconsistance. Guns N' Roses was headliners at the concert associated with F1 Championship in Abu Dhabi on November 25th, but the gig didn't go as planned - due to Axl's sickness half of songs were dropped and the set ended with November Rain. Total of 17 songs were played and it has become the first major concert-related issue for almost 3 years. Mostly, everybody and especially the fans, were supportive for Axl and the band, however, some individuals expressed critical dissatisfaction of the gig and how the band handled the situation. As for me, I have full respect for Axl, shit happens and nobody's perfect. Hope he'll be okay and put all the critics to their knees on the next gigs. Though, must say, probably the band and stuff could manage the situation better - to short the set in favour of hits and to jam after the most of the songs. Suppose, if they ended with Paradise City, prevailing "not target audience" wouldn't have noticed a thing. Maybe, it was initially planned, but Axl just couldn't take it anymore and they left earlier. So, not a big deal, all we're humans, nobody was hurt (except for Axl), life's go on. However, if to look from a more proffesional point of view, the thing is not so clear as there can be two sides of the story. If the band and management were fully aware of Axl's conditions (seems they were, as he did IV) and gave some options like changing the set or even cancelling the show, but Axl said, that he would do it anyway, then Axl is a real hero as he tried to satisfy the fans against all odds. But, we can't exclude the option, where Axl, as usual, was having fun all night, drinking etc., caught some shit and the band's management said "whatever, we are busy watching F1" and even knowing about Axl's condition, nobody was really concerned and the band was changing the set already during the show.... well, then it may rise some concerns about handling the situation. Yet again, if Axl didn't do anything excessive (got high, seriously drunk or something), therere no blame for him. So, what do you think about the situation? Was it anybody's fault? Will be there serious consequences? I think axl did the show because if they cancelled the media would use it as an excuse to post old shit and cancellations from the illusions days. So was axls way to circumvent that. Wonder if rescheduling could have been an option?.. hats off to axl though for trying to get through, all things considered. All the people complaining are probably those streaming from home. Edited November 26, 2018 by Sydney Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SAU3R Posted November 26, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) the whiners should stfu and be glad that they got to see GNR at all, if they would've cancelled the show the shitstorm would've been even bigger probably + the Abu Dhabi race was a big international event which happens once a year, you can't just reschedule it like a regular show I ranted a lot about the people complaining yesterday, but it still angers me. I think if it was anybodys fault then probably the Managements/Fernandos, from what you see on social media this guy is doing absolutely nothing to earn his money, all you see is him living the high society life from the money that GNR earns for him. And yesterday was his chance to prove at least once that he actually does some work. Because the bands management is responsible for issues like this. When you singer is sick and throwing up the whole day, you should definetly not be lying on the beach drinking cocktails and then go and watch the F1 race. You should talk to him, take care of him, communicate with the band, alternate the setlist if necessary, cause after all they earn the money for him, but what I think he did (of course I don't know what happened behind the scenes) he just let them get up there and play with a "let's see how far axl can make it"-attitude and didnt really care. The management could've at least talked to the audience before the show saying that axl is very ill but that they try their best but noone knows if he can do a whole show But as always Fernando decided to do nothing which was (as always) the worst he could do I don't think there will be consequences, they'll have to wait and see how Axl feels in Johannesburg and if he's doing better the tour will just go on, Johannesburg is the last stop on this run, after that they can go home and rest until the Hawaii show, so I think Axl will be like "well I can do that 1 show". Even though they might cut the setlist short but who knows I feel like ranting about everything and everybody Edited November 26, 2018 by SAU3R 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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