Chewbacca Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 18 minutes ago, soon said: I forget the part where I supported Leftist Authoritarian rule... oh, no thats right, I never did that. Im gonna guess you are a Bolsonaro supporter. If so, just know that I give zero fucks about your opinions. I did support Bolsonaro. It was him or someone that clearly said he was Lula himself, a dude that is now locked up in jail. If you don't give a fuck, imagine how I feel about some gringo that has never lived outside his comfy right wing first world country, that has no knowledge about the situation down here whatsoever, giving his opinions on who I should vote for😂 So, you don't support autoritharian lefties? What do you support then? It certainly is not socialism. Social democracy? We have that on Brasil, a strong state dictating all the rules and taking all of our resources in taxes and giving us rags in return, great deal. Communism? Well, even Marx didn't think it would be possible to implement it without socialism and there's tiranny again. The nordic model? They are center right, not left (it works afterall) and here's the danish prime minister explaining why they're not lefties: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thelocal.dk/20151101/danish-pm-in-us-denmark-is-not-socialist/amp Face it, in the end of the day, the left wing is all about making a strong centralized power-hungry government that controls all and infests the state machine to work for its own designs. In fact at this point it could be called the "wrong wing", since we already have the right. 24 minutes ago, Len Cnut said: Where are you from if you don't mind my asking? I have an incredible fascination with your part of the world. Brazil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Just now, Chewbacca said: I did support Bolsonaro. It was him or someone that clearly said he was Lula himself, a dude that is now locked up in jail. If you don't give a fuck, imagine how I feel about some gringo that has never lived outside his comfy right wing first world country, that has no knowledge about the situation down here whatsoever, giving his opinions on who I should vote for😂 Supported Bolsonaro, big surprise. You dont know anything about my life, where I've lived and what my basis of knowledge is . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 No behaviour is the product of one ideology over another. Both left and right have histories that are difficult to defend. So with that said, let’s not derail this thread with arguments over ideology. Please keep posts related to the topic. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, soon said: Supported Bolsonaro, big surprise. You dont know anything about my life, where I've lived and what my basis of knowledge is 9 minutes ago, soon said: Supported Bolsonaro, big surprise. You dont know anything about my life, where I've lived and what my basis of knowledge is . And you know something about me? Still you are judging me based on the fact I voted for the only guy that didn't support a corrupt prisioner. You didn't answer any of my questions BTW. Whatever, Downzy is right. This won't lead anywhere. I'll just ignore you for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 49 people are dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 6 hours ago, Oldest Goat said: Good on that young guy for egging that cunt. Way overreaction punching him and having the guys jump on him. Most Aussies are good people. I do share the sentiment they're family not just friends/allies. And everywhere including NZ has its racism and nasty side. But they do have a very ingrained prevalent disposition for racism and xenophobia over there in Aussie. Even Kiwis who are citizens there are treated like second class citizens. Don't get me started on Oz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsguy Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 10 hours ago, soon said: 49 people are dead. 50 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadSlash Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 I watched the video and the part I found most disturbing was not the gore, it's actually "light" on gore as gore videos go, it was how casual, and relaxed this guy was the really disturbed me. It is, as has been mentioned to in this thread already, an FPS of a massacre. It's not close or high enough resolution to see much blood or gore, but knowing what it is and that it is real life makes it very disconcerting. Also very disconcerting <in spoilers because this was especially disturbing to me> Spoiler When he coldly went back through and shot the wounded begging for help, right in the head. He was clearly detached from any semblance of humanity. That was when I was kinda done watching. He clearly had no fear of any kind of retaliation, I don't know if he was on Xanax, or something, but he doesn't even breath heavy with the exception of when he ran after people. Very methodical, relaxed and casual. No leaning around corners, no taking cover of any sort, he either wanted to die, or expected no resistance. He was also a really accurate shot. That's an observation, not a compliment of this cunt. He hit a few people sprinting at a distance, I didn't see him miss one shot. He had to have been training for this for some time. I suppose the distance is exaggerated on camera, but these are still moving targets in what should have been a high adrenaline situation. I think that's a serial killer trait, no empathy, no identifying with the reality of the situation. It is so disconcerting to know this can happen in any place of worship, for any religion, including your and mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 You cannot unmake the viewing of something like that so I'll refrain. I still haven't recovered from 2 Girls and a Cup. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanG Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 5 hours ago, DeadSlash said: I watched the video and the part I found most disturbing was not the gore, it's actually "light" on gore as gore videos go, it was how casual, and relaxed this guy was the really disturbed me. I agree, the resolution is too low for any of that, I would have thought twice about watching it otherwise, but seeing how relaxed he was is what made this very disturbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 The shooter is a Trump fan. Coincidence? One of the worshippers is credited for stopping the second attack from being worse than the first. Hope he gets a reward for his heroic efforts. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Jay Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Georgy Zhukov said: The shooter is a Trump fan. Coincidence? One of the worshippers is credited for stopping the second attack from being worse than the first. Hope he gets a reward for his heroic efforts. Not true. A quote from his manifesto : Quote Were/are you a supporter of Donald Trump? As a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose? Sure. As a policy maker and leader? Dear god no. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Jay Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 10 hours ago, DeadSlash said: He was also a really accurate shot. That's an observation, not a compliment of this cunt. He hit a few people sprinting at a distance, I didn't see him miss one shot. He had to have been training for this for some time. I suppose the distance is exaggerated on camera, but these are still moving targets in what should have been a high adrenaline situation. He is trained but this is likely his first combat experience. Too many 'rookie mistakes', his reloads were poor which made him waste time. At the end he said "it didn't go as expected". Because his music in the car was for timing. He planned to burn the place down. You can see him take out the gas cans and then second guess it. The Arthur Brown song was for him to start the fire and "gas gas gas" was for him to get away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Silent Jay said: He is trained but this is likely his first combat experience. Too many 'rookie mistakes', his reloads were poor which made him waste time. At the end he said "it didn't go as expected". Because his music in the car was for timing. He planned to burn the place down. You can see him take out the gas cans and then second guess it. The Arthur Brown song was for him to start the fire and "gas gas gas" was for him to get away. imagine being transported from 1991 (or something equally tranquil) to this day and reading that post on the internet the world has come to the point, where people watch "go-cam" footage of mass murder and casually discuss his reload times I'm long overdue for an internet break Edited March 17, 2019 by action 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanG Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, action said: imagine being transported from 1991 (or something equally tranquil) to this day and reading that post on the internet the world has come to the point, where people watch "go-cam" footage of mass murder and casually discuss his reload times I'm long overdue for an internet break They woud probably not be that shocked after having spent watching hours of live coverage of the Gulf War on CNN in 1990 and 1991. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Jay Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 30 minutes ago, action said: imagine being transported from 1991 (or something equally tranquil) to this day and reading that post on the internet the world has come to the point, where people watch "go-cam" footage of mass murder and casually discuss his reload times I'm long overdue for an internet break If there was footage that was filmed inside Columbine during the 1999 shooting, it would be considered historically significant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadSlash Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 hour ago, action said: imagine being transported from 1991 (or something equally tranquil) to this day and reading that post on the internet the world has come to the point, where people watch "go-cam" footage of mass murder and casually discuss his reload times I'm long overdue for an internet break I see your point, but his sloppy reloads stand out as part of the fearless theme. The first thing I looked up after the video was if New Zealand was like England where nobody had guns. Reasoning behind it was how relaxed and utterly free of any fear of kind of retaliation. I wondered if it was because he was ready to die, or if he had no concerns because maybe the cops didn't carry guns there. 13 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: You cannot unmake the viewing of something like that so I'll refrain. I still haven't recovered from 2 Girls and a Cup. Yeah, this is 100% true. I'm desensitized to this sort of thing from seeing it, but the first real atrocity I ever watched was the Nick Berg beheading. (The first American executed in Iraq during the war rebuild) It shook me hard, and changed my world view. It's over a decade, and it still upsets me to think about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 5 hours ago, Silent Jay said: Not true. A quote from his manifesto : Calling him a symbol sounds like a fan to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) I hope that this piece of human filth with rot in hell for his crimes. Edited March 18, 2019 by Sosso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlisOld Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 On 3/16/2019 at 7:42 AM, Dazey said: This is how it’s done. Take note America. Semi-automatic weapons will be banned – attorney general New Zealand’s attorney general, David Parker, has warned of a global rise in extremism and said the government would ban semi-automatic rifles, the New Zealand Herald has reported. He reportedly made the remarks at a vigil in Auckland’s Aotea Square to loud cheers. “There is a dimming of enlightenment in many parts of the world,” he is quoted as saying, asking how can it be right that the atrocity was livestreamed and broadcast by social media companies. His comments follow an earlier promise from the prime minister that gun laws will be changed. She said the main suspect had five firearms on him, including two semi-automatic weapons. This is absolutely not how it should be done. This is the definition on knee jerk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Jacinda Ardern got the Princess Di common touch I see? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 20 minutes ago, Oldest Goat said: What do you mean? He means that he'd rather talk trivia about dead UK celebrities than the ongoing warfare between right-wing racists and muslims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 On 17/03/2019 at 8:24 AM, DieselDaisy said: You cannot unmake the viewing of something like that so I'll refrain. I still haven't recovered from 2 Girls and a Cup. Pussy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 45 minutes ago, Oldest Goat said: What do you mean? I mean what I said. She has the common touch. How many world leaders would be seen, 26 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: He means that he'd rather talk trivia about dead UK celebrities than the ongoing warfare between right-wing racists and muslims. She is neither dead nor British. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: She is neither dead nor British. Princess Di not dead? I never took you for a conspiracy nutter. Alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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