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The "New Album" Thread - Susan McKagan says album is coming,"Universal database implies new album is coming because the numbers between Hard Skool and Absurd are missing"?


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7 hours ago, Pele said:

Of course it's probably average, and that's being kind.

It's 30 years since Illusions now.

And that tiny body of work contained utter, utter garbage like Silkworms, Riad, If The World, Atlas, Cather, OMG etc.  And total mediocrity like IRS, Chinese, Hard Skool etc.  Even This I Love was written about 32 years ago.

Of course The General is going to be average.  You still think this guy is hoarding epic classics?

I'd say it's likely to be average at best.  My guess would be it's probably terrible.

 

sounds like you need to find a new band?  You have NEVER heard a note of the general.  You sound like a troll saying its average.  You are the typical "fan" who will complain about every song on it

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On 11/30/2021 at 12:40 PM, Tom-Ass said:

That is pretty much where I am at...  If all they can do to produce music is take the path they did with Hard Stool and The Turd, I'll pass....

I've been  thinking like this too. I'm over it based on 2 poorly mixed, decades old songs. Don't think they'll create new stuff, which is a shame. Only hope for me is original CD2 leaking, but looks like that won't happen. Love the passion and belief some people have on here though, all power to them. 

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On 12/1/2021 at 3:27 PM, Gordon Comstock said:

It's one thing that they're just pasting Slash and Duff onto CD2 tracks - that's exactly what should've been expected.

But unfortunately the singles they've released sound like shit. If they release a full album with this loud modern-rock kind of production and poor mixing, it will be very disappointing. The singles have honestly made me lose whatever remaining interest I had in new GNR material... maybe they'll prove me wrong, and there will be a few killer tracks on an eventual album, but at this point I think the only way we'll hear the best versions of CD2 songs is if they leak.

Well said

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On 11/30/2021 at 6:27 PM, Gordon Comstock said:

It's one thing that they're just pasting Slash and Duff onto CD2 tracks - that's exactly what should've been expected.

But unfortunately the singles they've released sound like shit. If they release a full album with this loud modern-rock kind of production and poor mixing, it will be very disappointing. The singles have honestly made me lose whatever remaining interest I had in new GNR material... maybe they'll prove me wrong, and there will be a few killer tracks on an eventual album, but at this point I think the only way we'll hear the best versions of CD2 songs is if they leak.

It is odd because aside from the lack of bass on Chinese, I thought that was decently done overall.  These mixes are super compressed and Hard School especially is EQ'd and mixed in a way that is a bit thin and harsh on the ears. 

It it crazy that AFD, an album over 30 years ago, is more dynamic, clear, and impactful sonically, than a single released this year from the same band

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36 minutes ago, WhazUp said:

It is odd because aside from the lack of bass on Chinese, I thought that was decently done overall.  These mixes are super compressed and Hard School especially is EQ'd and mixed in a way that is a bit thin and harsh on the ears.

 

Completely agree. CD has its flaws but overall it's a good sounding album. These singles have some bass at least, but the drums are especially compressed and the vocal effects/edits seem unnecessary.

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On 12/3/2021 at 2:26 AM, fabrph5 said:

sounds like you need to find a new band?  You have NEVER heard a note of the general.  You sound like a troll saying its average.  You are the typical "fan" who will complain about every song on it

Didnt axl say something about the general was used as the intro for the shows around 2006?

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On 12/4/2021 at 3:41 PM, WhazUp said:

It is odd because aside from the lack of bass on Chinese, I thought that was decently done overall.  These mixes are super compressed and Hard School especially is EQ'd and mixed in a way that is a bit thin and harsh on the ears. 

It it crazy that AFD, an album over 30 years ago, is more dynamic, clear, and impactful sonically, than a single released this year from the same band

Appetite was mixed and produced by a professional not Axl or Caram. 

Now Axl instead of recording anything new wants to release CD leftovers from 20 years ago (which were not good enough to be included with CDs release, my opinion here) with the existing vocals, melody attached etc.

Appetite they wrote and recorded as a band. Not just slash and duff dubbing over existing songs and trying to fit their notes and such around the songs existing structure and already recorded vocals. 

 

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1 hour ago, vloors said:

Appetite was mixed and produced by a professional not Axl or Caram. 

Now Axl instead of recording anything new wants to release CD leftovers from 20 years ago (which were not good enough to be included with CDs release, my opinion here) with the existing vocals, melody attached etc.

Appetite they wrote and recorded as a band. Not just slash and duff dubbing over existing songs and trying to fit their notes and such around the songs existing structure and already recorded vocals. 

 

I consider both Axl and Caram to be professionals. I believe Axl wouldn't call himself a producer without doing the work required to learn how to produce.

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5 hours ago, Bitchisback said:

Caram has been in the industry almost 30 years and worked on some of the biggest albums of the 90s. Come on bro 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Whilst this is true the last two singles sound like something made on garage band overnight when it comes to mixing.

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Everything just comes across as super lazy, the singles, the merch, the "videos"...like none of the big 3 really gives a fuck. At all.

The whole vibe is not there and now we know they wrote nothing new together and all we'll get (maybe) are Axl's failed attempts from the ancient Chinese sessions with a little bit of Slash n Duff on top of it. 

Is this the worst possible outcome? It's damn close imo.

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2 hours ago, El Guapo said:

Everything just comes across as super lazy, the singles, the merch, the "videos"...like none of the big 3 really gives a fuck. At all.

The whole vibe is not there and now we know they wrote nothing new together and all we'll get (maybe) are Axl's failed attempts from the ancient Chinese sessions with a little bit of Slash n Duff on top of it. 

Is this the worst possible outcome? It's damn close imo.

The vibe ended in 1989. The Illusion tour was a mess with the band going in any direction with no visible vibe or connection. Many fans were too young too see this at the time, mesmerized by rasp, rants and pyro. A bloated corpse. The reunion of 2016 is an arranged marriage solely for profit. 

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On 12/6/2021 at 7:13 PM, Bitchisback said:

Caram has been in the industry almost 30 years and worked on some of the biggest albums of the 90s. Come on bro 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Caram as a producer has just CD as credit. He has mostly engineer work 

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1 hour ago, Rovim said:

I think it looks like they wanted to be there and had a ton of fun, but that's just me

I do think there is an element of genuine satisfaction from making amends, a real bonding, and I also think they have been having fun playing together. Still, I am sure the tour wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for the money offered and I don't think there is much desire to take it further than this. Fiscally it makes a lot of sense, and they can also please fans who have been waiting to see them play together again, and on a personal level I am sure they find happiness in having ended the feud. 

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9 minutes ago, axlvai said:

Agreed. And a lot of music too. The end of the UYI Tour was the really end.

Late 2008 was the end.

In a perfect world, it would have been 2009 or 2010 with CD2.

Instead, we will get CD2 but in the form of how Silkworms and Hardschool morphed into Absurd and Hard Skool, which will be....interesting. 

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