rocknroll41 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, EvanG said: Josh? Even Josh himself says he doesn’t like the two albums he made with them, sadly. I think there are solid songs on both of those albums, but mixed with some real ear-bleeders (Brutus, Ticonderoga, etc.). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 53 minutes ago, EvanG said: Josh? While I prefer John as a guitarrist, and his best albums are hands down the albums that made RHCP what they are today, this new one feels uninspired and rushed AF. I prefer both Josh albums to this one so far. Especially The Getaway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Not a single memorable John moment in the whole album. Maybe the vocals on Heavy Wing? Maybe his mind was just somehere else. Were these songs even composed with him? Can anyone name me one great guitar line in this album? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 this one is pretty chill. I like it, perfect for my evening walks. I do feel like John was maybe too polite in the studio. He talked about feeling like he was too front and center while recording SA with too much backing vocals. Personally I think with his talent and vision I would have probably liked it better if he was more prominent but it's a good record. It seems that they just went with the natural vibe between the 4 of them and that's cool. Not disappointed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakey Styley Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Cosmo said: Not a single memorable John moment in the whole album. Maybe the vocals on Heavy Wing? Maybe his mind was just somehere else. Were these songs even composed with him? Can anyone name me one great guitar line in this album? 1 hour ago, Rovim said: this one is pretty chill. I like it, perfect for my evening walks. I do feel like John was maybe too polite in the studio. He talked about feeling like he was too front and center while recording SA with too much backing vocals. Personally I think with his talent and vision I would have probably liked it better if he was more prominent but it's a good record. It seems that they just went with the natural vibe between the 4 of them and that's cool. Not disappointed. I agree with both of these takes. The album makes me want to go listen to some John solo stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakey Styley Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 One thing I’ll say though even without loving it…can you name another 40 year old band putting out an album as good? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, Jakey Styley said: One thing I’ll say though even without loving it…can you name another 40 year old band putting out an album as good? Not many but it’s not that hard, too… Judas Priest put out one of the best albums of their career a while ago, Iron Maiden’s latest wasn’t that good but certainly better than this. Megadeth’s last album was pretty good, certainly more solid than this. Rush’s last album was one of the best albums in the amazing career and they had over 40 years of activity. I agree it’s better than what bands like Pearl Jam and Metallica have been putting out, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MacPhisto Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 I dont know how RHCP fans can prefer the getaway over unlimited love,different level with John back. I preferred the b sides with Josh over the albums, the heavy wing is one of their best songs ever. Even the lesser songs on this are better than anything on the getaway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanG Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) Off the top of my head I can think of Soul Asylum. They've been releasing records since 1984 (same year as RHCP) and their latest record is pretty damn good. 4 hours ago, rocknroll41 said: Even Josh himself says he doesn’t like the two albums he made with them, sadly. I think there are solid songs on both of those albums, but mixed with some real ear-bleeders (Brutus, Ticonderoga, etc.). He didn't like working with Rick Rubin and he had some issues during the recording of The Getaway, but I can't imagine that he doesn't like a lot of the songs, because there's some strong material on both records, and he did co-write them. So I'm guessing he just wasn't happy with the recording process? Anyway, I'm curious to see if they're going to play any songs from the Josh era. I hope they do because I think a lot of fans wanna hear at least a few of them and it'd be shitty for Josh if they ignored all of them. PS, I couldn't help but think about Josh when I watched their latest video and you can see that skinny kid playing guitar in his room. Same layer of clothes the way Josh often wears it and same haircut. Coincidence? Probably... Edited April 3, 2022 by EvanG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 hour ago, EvanG said: Off the top of my head I can think of Soul Asylum. They've been releasing records since 1984 (same year as RHCP) and their latest record is pretty damn good. He didn't like working with Rick Rubin and he had some issues during the recording of The Getaway, but I can't imagine that he doesn't like a lot of the songs, because there's some strong material on both records, and he did co-write them. So I'm guessing he just wasn't happy with the recording process? Anyway, I'm curious to see if they're going to play any songs from the Josh era. I hope they do because I think a lot of fans wanna hear at least a few of them and it'd be shitty for Josh if they ignored all of them. PS, I couldn't help but think about Josh when I watched their latest video and you can see that skinny kid playing guitar in his room. Same layer of clothes the way Josh often wears it and same haircut. Coincidence? Probably... Yeah I hope they at least still play Dark Necessities. Guess we will find out come June. And yeah I’m pretty sure the kid in the video was an allusion to Josh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Is that John singing the chorus to Heavy Wing? It doesn't sound like Kiedis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 19 minutes ago, Towelie said: Is that John singing the chorus to Heavy Wing? It doesn't sound like Kiedis. Yeah it’s John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 3 hours ago, rocknroll41 said: Yeah it’s John. Cool. Is this the first time he's sung a lead part on an album track? I know he does a tonne of backing vocals, but I don't recall him ever doing a lead vocal on a RHCP track before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK6 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 5 hours ago, rocknroll41 said: Yeah I hope they at least still play Dark Necessities. Guess we will find out come June. And yeah I’m pretty sure the kid in the video was an allusion to Josh. Looks just like John when he was younger. Josh always looked as though he was trying to look like John when he was younger so who knows! 26 minutes ago, Towelie said: Cool. Is this the first time he's sung a lead part on an album track? I know he does a tonne of backing vocals, but I don't recall him ever doing a lead vocal on a RHCP track before. Knock me down is pretty much John on lead for the whole song due to dodgy mixing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Towelie said: Cool. Is this the first time he's sung a lead part on an album track? I know he does a tonne of backing vocals, but I don't recall him ever doing a lead vocal on a RHCP track before. Technically yes, this is John’s first time singing lead vocals on the chorus of a RHCP song all on his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklord Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Josh doesn't like IWY because all of his songs were left out of the album by Rick Rubin and then later put on I'm Beside You. I don't think I heard him dislike The Getaway tho. I didn't listen to all of his podcasts and radio interviews tho but that's what he was saying when he left the band Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanG Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 7 hours ago, rocknroll41 said: Technically yes, this is John’s first time singing lead vocals on the chorus of a RHCP song all on his own. He sings lead on half of the chorus on Dosed and there's some lead on Strip My Mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 1 hour ago, EvanG said: He sings lead on half of the chorus on Dosed and there's some lead on Strip My Mind. You can still kinda hear Anthony deep in the background on both of those tho (while John is singing, that is). This is a little different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jakey Styley Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) Listened to Rick Rubin’s podcast with John today. They don’t talk about the new album at all, but they spend a lot of time talking about how John was first brought into the band, so it’s cool for those who don’t know how it began and are interested. John had been a fan of the band for years before joining at age 18 or something. 9 hours ago, Nicklord said: Josh doesn't like IWY because all of his songs were left out of the album by Rick Rubin and then later put on I'm Beside You. I don't think I heard him dislike The Getaway tho. I didn't listen to all of his podcasts and radio interviews tho but that's what he was saying when he left the band Do you know where I can find him talking about that? Edited April 4, 2022 by Jakey Styley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Jakey Styley said: Listened to Rick Rubin’s podcast with John today. They don’t talk about the new album at all, but they spend a lot of time talking about how John was first brought into the band, so it’s cool for those who don’t know how it began and are interested. John had been a fan of the band for years before joining at age 18 or something. Do you know where I can find him talking about that? Pretty sure it was the Marc Maron podcast episode he did in late 2019, literally just a few days after the band kicked him out. Pretty sure I remember him saying in that interview that he also didn’t like The Getaway, but I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carne_asaDA Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 10:52 AM, Cosmo said: Not a single memorable John moment in the whole album. Maybe the vocals on Heavy Wing? Maybe his mind was just somehere else. Were these songs even composed with him? Can anyone name me one great guitar line in this album? Whatchu Thinkin is pretty decent on guitar. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Ranking all the songs since Stadium Arcadium. There's a HUGE quality drop from Stadium Arcadium to I'm With You and from The Getaway to Unlimited Love, IMO. There's just an abyss between John's two albums in terms of quality. Blue = Stadium Arcadium White = I'm With You Yellow = The Getaway Red = Unlimited Love Slow Cheetah Hard To Concentrate Dark Necessities Desecration Smile Snow (Hey Oh) Tell Me Baby Dani California Go Robot Goodbye Hooray Charlie Make You Feel Better Hey Strip My Mind She's Only 18 Stadium Arcadium She Looks To Me Monarchy of Roses Hump de Bump Especially In Michigan Wet Sand 21st Century Dreams of a Samurai Look Around Readymade Black Summer Animal Bar Torture Me Encore Goodbye Angels Did I Let You Know Warlocks The Hunter We Believe Ethiopia Meet Me At The Corner Poster Child Factory Of Faith The Longest Wave It's Only Natural Feasting On The Flowers The Adventures Of Raindance Maggie Death of a Martian Bastards of Light We Turn Red Let 'Em Cry The Heavy Wing Storm in a Teacup Sick Love White Braids and Pillow Chair If Annie Wants a Baby The Great Apes Not The One Aquatic Mouth Dance So Much I Even You Brutus? Brendan's Death Song The Getaway C'mon Girl Whatchu Thinkin This Ticonderoga Turn It Again Here Ever After She's a Lover These Are The Ways Detroit Happiness Loves Company Dance, Dance, Dance Police Station Veronica Tangelo One Way Traffic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK6 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Cosmo said: Ranking all the songs since Stadium Arcadium. There's a HUGE quality drop from Stadium Arcadium to I'm With You and from The Getaway to Unlimited Love, IMO. There's just an abyss between John's two albums in terms of quality. Blue = Stadium Arcadium White = I'm With You Yellow = The Getaway Red = Unlimited Love Slow Cheetah Hard To Concentrate Dark Necessities Desecration Smile Snow (Hey Oh) Tell Me Baby Dani California Go Robot Goodbye Hooray Charlie Make You Feel Better Hey Strip My Mind She's Only 18 Stadium Arcadium She Looks To Me Monarchy of Roses Hump de Bump Especially In Michigan Wet Sand 21st Century Dreams of a Samurai Look Around Readymade Black Summer Animal Bar Torture Me Encore Goodbye Angels Did I Let You Know Warlocks The Hunter We Believe Ethiopia Meet Me At The Corner Poster Child Factory Of Faith The Longest Wave It's Only Natural Feasting On The Flowers The Adventures Of Raindance Maggie Death of a Martian Bastards of Light We Turn Red Let 'Em Cry The Heavy Wing Storm in a Teacup Sick Love White Braids and Pillow Chair If Annie Wants a Baby The Great Apes Not The One Aquatic Mouth Dance So Much I Even You Brutus? Brendan's Death Song The Getaway C'mon Girl Whatchu Thinkin This Ticonderoga Turn It Again Here Ever After She's a Lover These Are The Ways Detroit Happiness Loves Company Dance, Dance, Dance Police Station Veronica Tangelo One Way Traffic You're off your rocker... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, DK6 said: You're off your rocker... Did you really like this thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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