jimisbatman Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Is there a VR pages on this forum? What's the general consensus about them around here? Always thought 2nd album was weak, but listened to it (Libertad) all weekend and think it was misrepresented more so than being a weak album. I reprogrammed the album tracklisting, made it shorter and it's quiet the phenomenonal listening experience. Try it and let me know your thoughts. Spay GOTD SBQM J16 LIR She Mine Gravedancer + hidden track And.... Did some research and they had another song called The House is Alive that never got released. Any info on any vr reissues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankfurt93 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 3 hours ago, jimisbatman said: Is there a VR pages on this forum? What's the general consensus about them around here? Always thought 2nd album was weak, but listened to it (Libertad) all weekend and think it was misrepresented more so than being a weak album. I reprogrammed the album tracklisting, made it shorter and it's quiet the phenomenonal listening experience. Try it and let me know your thoughts. Spay GOTD SBQM J16 LIR She Mine Gravedancer + hidden track And.... Did some research and they had another song called The House is Alive that never got released. Any info on any vr reissues? Messages!? How could you forget that one 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Frankfurt93 said: Messages!? How could you forget that one That one is just a b-side, to be fair. Edited June 5, 2023 by rocknroll41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drlaban Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 11 hours ago, jimisbatman said: Is there a VR pages on this forum? What's the general consensus about them around here? Always thought 2nd album was weak, but listened to it (Libertad) all weekend and think it was misrepresented more so than being a weak album. I reprogrammed the album tracklisting, made it shorter and it's quiet the phenomenonal listening experience. Try it and let me know your thoughts. Spay GOTD SBQM J16 LIR She Mine Gravedancer + hidden track And.... Did some research and they had another song called The House is Alive that never got released. Any info on any vr reissues? A very consistent album. SBQM is the weakest song though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssiscool Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Always loved Libertad, Pills Demons etc is excellent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Towelie Posted June 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2023 10 hours ago, rocknroll41 said: That one is just a b-side, to be fair. Messages is the best song they ever did. How it didn't make the standard edition of Libertad is baffling, when it is far and away the strongest song on it. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 16 minutes ago, Towelie said: Messages is the best song they ever did. How it didn't make the standard edition of Libertad is baffling, when it is far and away the strongest song on it. The intro sounds like Interstate Love Song. That’s probably why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 21 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said: The intro sounds like Interstate Love Song. That’s probably why. I hear that, but it's only a passing resemblance and the song itself is completely different. Lame decision to make it a bonus track imo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowOfTheWave Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 The Last Fight is incredible. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jekylhyde Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 10 hours ago, Towelie said: Messages is the best song they ever did. How it didn't make the standard edition of Libertad is baffling, when it is far and away the strongest song on it. Yes, this. It's like they wanted Libertad to fail. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankfurt93 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 On 6/5/2023 at 11:50 AM, rocknroll41 said: That one is just a b-side, to be fair. B side or not, it is a Libertad era song, that probably is better than any song on the album too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 I actually like Libertad more than Contraband, both are solid records though. I really wish Psycho Killer and Messages was included on the standard release. If they swapped out the weakest two songs, and had those in place, I feel it would have ranked up there with Contraband from most people's perspective. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 I wonder what a third VR album would have sounded like if, say, Libertad did well commercially and the band members got along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Contraband is far superior, IMO. Still, Libertad has some good tracks: Get Out The Door, SBQM, The Last Flight, Gravedancer, Messages. But it has some horrible tracks like She Mine, Just Sixteen, For A Brother and Spay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powderfinger Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Never got the flack thrown at Libertad, I liked it first time I heard it and still like it. The hidden track reminds me of something GnR would have written with Izzy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimisbatman Posted June 8, 2023 Author Share Posted June 8, 2023 On 6/5/2023 at 9:09 PM, Frankfurt93 said: Messages!? How could you forget that one Lol, I'll give it a spin today On 6/6/2023 at 5:00 AM, drlaban said: A very consistent album. SBQM is the weakest song though. I suppose music is very subjective as SBQM is one of my favourites from the album Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimisbatman Posted June 8, 2023 Author Share Posted June 8, 2023 On 6/6/2023 at 5:59 AM, ssiscool said: Always loved Libertad, Pills Demons etc is excellent I struggled with this song, like it, listened to it heaps but didn't feel I made the A cut list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimisbatman Posted June 8, 2023 Author Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) On 6/7/2023 at 9:00 AM, Cosmo said: Contraband is far superior, IMO. Still, Libertad has some good tracks: Get Out The Door, SBQM, The Last Flight, Gravedancer, Messages. But it has some horrible tracks like She Mine, Just Sixteen, For A Brother and Spay. I like what matt S said when he said the first album had a youthful angst feel to it given they had something to prove which I think is a great description. I like it better too, but ultimately different beasts when comparing. I like the pop(tastic)Ness of the second album, seems more polished. Lol, your horrible tracks are some of my favs, guess different strokes sort of thing Edited June 8, 2023 by jimisbatman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimisbatman Posted June 8, 2023 Author Share Posted June 8, 2023 On 6/7/2023 at 3:51 AM, Rovim said: I wonder what a third VR album would have sounded like if, say, Libertad did well commercially and the band members got along. Yeah, it'll be interesting if the 10 songs with Corey Taylor ever get leaked. The band liked them apart from Slash. And if we get The House is Alvie song. Damn wish there was a reissue coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 10 hours ago, jimisbatman said: Yeah, it'll be interesting if the 10 songs with Corey Taylor ever get leaked. The band liked them apart from Slash. And if we get The House is Alvie song. Damn wish there was a reissue coming I wish Chester Bennington had replaced Scott. Perhaps this could have saved his life, who knows? And the dude is an excellent and versatile singer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssiscool Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 7 hours ago, Cosmo said: I wish Chester Bennington had replaced Scott. Perhaps this could have saved his life, who knows? And the dude is an excellent and versatile singer. Maybe. Chris Cornell would of been a good replacement too 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimisbatman Posted June 9, 2023 Author Share Posted June 9, 2023 On 6/8/2023 at 11:44 PM, Cosmo said: I wish Chester Bennington had replaced Scott. Perhaps this could have saved his life, who knows? And the dude is an excellent and versatile singer. Yes he is. I liked his songs for STP too. I wish they went with Corey Taylor and release those demos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardNixon Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 I thought Libertad was great, never understood why it was considered a letdown. Contraband has the stronger singles, but I think Libertad was a more enjoyable listen, front-to-back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 both VR albums are great imho. I prefer Contraband though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powderfinger Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 Weiland was a great frontman live… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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