"The General" is officially delayed... but "The General" AND "Monsters" is (unofficially) out of the bag

[jekylhyde]

Of course they won't release it digitally. They rather have people rip it and upload it to Youtube and not have any streams on their official channel(s) 

Oh, but wait... 

That actual sounds pretty on brand for this band 

[Blackstar]

1 hour ago, BucketEgg said:

I'm wondering what's up with Universal Italy, who gave Universal Italy the notice that it won't be digitally released, if there's some country-based contracts going on, miscommunication, or something else. Why was Universal Italy of all Universal subgroups told this (possibly mis)information? Whatever is going on behind the scenes, it's probably bizarre.

Probably there's no notice and Universal Italy just hasn't been informed of any schedule for a digital release prior to the physical release, so it relies on that.

[Voodoochild]

The phrasing on this looks weird, even if it's translated. Calling the songs as "unreleased" and using "B-side" instead of "R-side". This doesn't look like something approved by US UMG or the band. I don't know.

To have this song ripped in mp3 with no digital release is outrageous. The rip wouldn't be able to capture the proper mix and sound properties, and we would likely have only a subpar audio quality for it. It's fine for a demo, not for a supposed A-list song.

 

1 hour ago, Blackstar said:

This just confirms that the source of the Italian article that reported about it was Universal Italy. So it doesn't change anything.

For sure. They were right about Perhaps release date, though. 

[colonizedmind]

5 hours ago, Skamos66 said:

imagine "The General" is just the intro and they cut out the stuff we haven't heard.

My World 2, just a minute of slow orchestra lol,

Brain said Axl sang on The General....so that would of had to of been scraped for that to be true....

[Sweersa]

When Perhaps launched, the official Guns merch page incorrectly said it was a new song recorded by the current lineup in 2023. They later edited that out. So I wouldn't take any web page as gospel.

[Blackstar]

34 minutes ago, Voodoochild said:

The phrasing on this looks weird, even if it's translated. Calling the songs as "unreleased" and using "B-side" instead of "R-side". This doesn't look like something approved by US UMG or the band. I don't know.

To have this song ripped in mp3 with no digital release is outrageous. The rip wouldn't be able to capture the proper mix and sound properties, and we would likely have only a subpar audio quality for it. It's fine for a demo, not for a supposed A-list song.

 

For sure. They were right about Perhaps release date, though. 

It also has the original press release (about Perhaps being written by Axl/Slash/Duff and recorded this year) that was later removed from GN'R's and Universal's US store.

I looked at Universal France, and it has the updated press release without mentioning anything about no digital release:

https://vinylcollector.store/collections/guns-n-roses/products/guns-n-roses-perhaps-vinyle-45t-exclusif

(The main Universal FR website leads to the link above).

Edited September 18, 2023 by Blackstar

[BucketEgg]

1 hour ago, Blackstar said:

Probably there's no notice and Universal Italy just hasn't been informed of any schedule for a digital release prior to the physical release, so it relies on that.

if that's the case,

Universal Italy, get yourself together and stop going rogue!

 

 

and at least the people with no record players won't have to resort to this if they one day get too bored of having a perfectly intact Perhaps vinyl in their collection

 

 

Edited September 18, 2023 by BucketEgg

[Sweersa]

For some stupid reason, if The General ONLY gets a vinyl release, I'm sure someone has the proper equipment and knowledge to get a high quality rip from it, assuming it is indeed the best or highest quality method in hearing music, even over high-res and CD.

[ZoSoRose]

It'll be digital, too. Just like Absurd and Hard Skool

[Nick85]

I really hope @Fernando flat out denies this nonsense.

[Sweersa]

8 minutes ago, Nick85 said:

I really hope @Fernando flat out denies this nonsense.

Can someone please ask him if we will hear and Bucket or Robin on the official release of The General?

[AxlSlashthebest]

1 hour ago, Blackstar said:

It also has the original press release (about Perhaps being written by Axl/Slash/Duff and recorded this year) that was later removed from GN'R's and Universal's US store.

I looked at Universal France, and it has the updated press release without mentioning anything about no digital release:

https://vinylcollector.store/collections/guns-n-roses/products/guns-n-roses-perhaps-vinyle-45t-exclusif

(The main Universal FR website leads to the link above).

right and they said

Side G: Perhaps
Side R: The General

[BucketEgg]

For the Universal Italy's page saying it will never have a digital release,

if The General does or will have a digital release planned, wouldn't that page constitute false advertising? If they keep that notice up on the page, would that be illegal?

I hope if there's a GNR staff that monitors the forums for any "mischievous uploads", that person at least passes word about the Universal Italy page to whatever higher-ups in the GNR sections. Because if it's a blunder, and possibly an illegal blunder if they keep leaving it up, then it should be rectified as soon as they can.

And if they rectify it, then that means we might have more clue on whether it will have a digital release or not! I'm going to keep tabs on that page to see if they rectify the page and indirectly confirm there isn't zero chance of a digital release, or if they're going to be slowpokes about it, or they leave it up there because the notice is somehow legit.

Edited September 18, 2023 by BucketEgg

[Sanomatovic]

39 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said:

It'll be digital, too. Just like Absurd and Hard Skool

What makes you so sure about it?

[ZoSoRose]

12 minutes ago, Sanomatovic said:

What makes you so sure about it?

I'm a legit business insider

 

Idk, common sense?

[Sweersa]

The lack of CD and cassette physical media of Perhaps is interesting...

Could they be planning a longer EP in November with the works? Perfect for Christmas.

[Voodoochild]

1 hour ago, Blackstar said:

It also has the original press release (about Perhaps being written by Axl/Slash/Duff and recorded this year) that was later removed from GN'R's and Universal's US store.

I looked at Universal France, and it has the updated press release without mentioning anything about no digital release:

https://vinylcollector.store/collections/guns-n-roses/products/guns-n-roses-perhaps-vinyle-45t-exclusif

(The main Universal FR website leads to the link above).

Just for the record, Brazil's UMG also has the same information without mentioning anything about no digital release. And it has the proper "R-side" thing.

https://www.umusicstore.com/vinil-guns-n-roses-perhaps-7-importado-4727/p

[Sweersa]

Interesting how they have not shown The General yet, I would bet it has artwork on the other side of the sleeve.

Thanks,

Alex

[Atlas19]

15 minutes ago, Voodoochild said:

Just for the record, Brazil's UMG also has the same information without mentioning anything about no digital release. And it has the proper "R-side" thing.

https://www.umusicstore.com/vinil-guns-n-roses-perhaps-7-importado-4727/p

The Spanish UMG says the same as the Brazilian site. Maybe the no digital release is from the Italian site only

https://universalmusiconline.es/collections/guns-n-roses/products/perhaps-7-vinilo

Edited September 18, 2023 by Atlas19

[Nick85]

Why the fuck would they advertise a wildly negative detail?

[DTV88]

It’s funny how dramatic this place gets over the littlest thing. The General will absolutely get a digital release 

[Cosmo]

Guys even if The General gets a vinyl-only release, you're all 100% guaranteed to be able to download it hi-res. No need to worry.

[AxlRoseCDII]

There’s multiple sources saying no digital release now, this is the second if I recall correctly? Where there’s smoke there’s fire. I’ve lost hope for a digital release at this point. Which is really fucking tragic and sad if so.

[F*ck Fear]

6 minutes ago, AxlRoseCDII said:

There’s multiple sources saying no digital release now, this is the second if I recall correctly? Where there’s smoke there’s fire. I’ve lost hope for a digital release at this point. Which is really fucking tragic and sad if so.

That will be the nail in the coffin for me & this band.

I signed out of the forum and was gone for 6 months before the release of Perhaps brought me back. If they fuck this up, I will 100% be completely done.

Edited September 18, 2023 by F*ck Fear

[Dummy]

I dont care about the general. 

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