Georgy Zhukov Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Not sure if I like any of that. Guess the script really was bad. They just left in the good parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 My guess is they cut out Godzilla frying people on the beach in Honolulu and swiping at jets to make him more of a heroic character. I wonder when that shift came about? Maybe that's why the initial marketing came about Godzilla was still more of an anti-hero.The dead bodies around the MUTO site in the beginning of the film would have been atmospheric, maybe they were worried they'd get an R rating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 My guess is they cut out Godzilla frying people on the beach in Honolulu and swiping at jets to make him more of a heroic character. I wonder when that shift came about? Maybe that's why the initial marketing came about Godzilla was still more of an anti-hero.The dead bodies around the MUTO site in the beginning of the film would have been atmospheric, maybe they were worried they'd get an R rating.We could use a Godzilla movie with an R rating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 So I am guessing Godzilla vs. Megalon and Destroy All Monsters are being released on Blu Ray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon87 Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 This movie left me disappointed.In my opinion, there was not enough Godzilla, not enough Godzilla in daylight, not enough Bryan Cranston, way too much of this American "Fuck it, we're soldiers, let's do this!" bullshit and too much of this young guy and his wife, God, that was awful acting! Another thing that annoyed me was, every time Godzilla was rocking the scene (or even one of the MUTO's was shown), there was a cut and they showed that soldier guy or his teary eyed wife or his stupid son. Whenever I thought the movies was starting to become a real Godzilla movie, there was this cut. Really. Goddamn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Yeah, no arguements there. We paid to see Godzilla, we want to see Godzilla not Dickhole Taylor-Johnson. The only human we want to see is Bryan Cranston. Needed more Japanese people besides Ken. But Godzilla did not disappoint, anyone see that claymation video? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLegend Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Went to see it today. I was fairly disappointed and expected the cynical reviews to be just that.Unfortunately it was way, way to cliche ridden, especially after Cranston dies near the films start (despite being all over the trailers). Taylor the guy who plays his son who the movie is apparently about and Cranston himself were completely irrelevant to the film's plot. Ken Watanabe is apparently only there to say "Goood zilla" in a Japaneses accent. Taylor is a worse actor than Peter Petrelli from heroes, he just seems to randomly get himself to stereotypical set-pieces. I.e the random train attack. I could almost swear there are almost more shots of him staring at the monsters than there actual shots of the monsters. Let's be honest if a little cynical too, is it not a little too soon to be thinking about a nuclear attack on Monsters who don't really do much other than try to defend themselves against the Military's incompetence? I'm fairly sure apart from possibly the bit were Godzilla emerges from the sea that that the military accidentally kill more people themselves than the monsters.Slow build would be fine and if you only seen Godzilla for 5 minutes of the film, assuming the plot was interesting. It was not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I like that Ken Watanabe is there to school people how to properly pronounce "Gojira" because westerners keep calling him "Go Jeer-a" and act like snobs about it. The Japanese pronounciation sounds like "godz-illa" which is how the name Godzilla came to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Interesting to see what earlier script draft was like (explicitly stated that MUTOs laid eggs in Godzilla-type creatures because of their radiation, hence why Godzilla would see them as a threat, airport fight was originally a full fight, more Godzilla vs military).http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/content/godzilla-2014-script-said-have-leaked-spoilers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 I think all the criticism has been very constructive for this movie. People seem to like it but have been disappointed in less Godzilla and lame characters. Everyone seems to agree that the Godzilla scenes are fantastic, though.I have a feeling the sequel is going to be great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Has hit over 477 million....and hasn't been released in Japan yet....so my prediction of at least 500 million looks to be fairly accurate.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 $500 million is laughable nowadays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 $500 million is laughable nowadaysNo its not, thats still a great gross.Marvel and XMen movies sometimes don't even reach that. 500 Mil is solid for a first Godzilla movie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristmasFnatic Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Pre-orders are up in Amazon, including an embossed art with his roar. Whatever that is, cuz no details yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zint Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 I'm down for that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 (edited) I've watched it several times now (online streams...and no, I don't feel guilty, I've already spent $30 on the film, seeing it live... )Anyway, watching it over again, I understand people's gripes better now. After knowing what happens, the film does seem to drag a bit, for close to an hour...but I still feel it was the right way to reboot the franchise. That being said, I hope they have some bonus footage for the Blu-Ray release. Edited July 4, 2014 by Kasanova King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Yeah I've only seen it once and rewatching the entire thing already sounds like a chore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 55 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 $500 million is laughable nowadays. I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about so laugh at me too!Ok! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I'm still a bit upset over the fact they created a new monster for Godzilla to battle with instead of using a familiar one from the Toho franchise. Man, cocoons. Why not mothra? Why not have mothra and battra battle out instead of the two MUTOs meet up to mate? But other than that and the horrible acting from that main military dude, it was awesome. If I were directing this shit, we would've gotten Mothra first, then we'd get Mechagodzilla and finally in the third, I'd bring on King Ghidorah. And you don't even wanna know my genius plot for the three of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron MikeyJ Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I'm still a bit upset over the fact they created a new monster for Godzilla to battle with instead of using a familiar one from the Toho franchise. Man, cocoons. Why not mothra? Why not have mothra and battra battle out instead of the two MUTOs meet up to mate? But other than that and the horrible acting from that main military dude, it was awesome. If I were directing this shit, we would've gotten Mothra first, then we'd get Mechagodzilla and finally in the third, I'd bring on King Ghidorah. And you don't even wanna know my genius plot for the three of them.I pretty much disagree with all of this.Bringing in another classic monster would take away from who this film is about, Godzilla. I felt very strongly that if Godzilla was to be the villian, than he should be on his own, but if he was to be the hero (as is the case) than you have to start with a noname monster. Mothra is too well of known to bring in from the beginning, same goes for King Ghidorah. You have to build up to those monsters, because they deserve a whole origina story themselves. Which THIS film is about Godzilla's origin. He is Earth's defender, telling that story is all this film had time to tell. Trying to fit Mothra or another classic monster in it would be over saturating the plot, aka Spiderman 3. But as far as sequels go, now we have open canvases for Mothra or King Ghidorah. Which honestly I would do a trilogy, saving Ghidorah for the 3rd film. But that's just me.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I'm still a bit upset over the fact they created a new monster for Godzilla to battle with instead of using a familiar one from the Toho franchise. Man, cocoons. Why not mothra? Why not have mothra and battra battle out instead of the two MUTOs meet up to mate? But other than that and the horrible acting from that main military dude, it was awesome. If I were directing this shit, we would've gotten Mothra first, then we'd get Mechagodzilla and finally in the third, I'd bring on King Ghidorah. And you don't even wanna know my genius plot for the three of them.I pretty much disagree with all of this.Bringing in another classic monster would take away from who this film is about, Godzilla. I felt very strongly that if Godzilla was to be the villian, than he should be on his own, but if he was to be the hero (as is the case) than you have to start with a noname monster. Mothra is too well of known to bring in from the beginning, same goes for King Ghidorah. You have to build up to those monsters, because they deserve a whole origina story themselves. Which THIS film is about Godzilla's origin. He is Earth's defender, telling that story is all this film had time to tell. Trying to fit Mothra or another classic monster in it would be over saturating the plot, aka Spiderman 3.But as far as sequels go, now we have open canvases for Mothra or King Ghidorah. Which honestly I would do a trilogy, saving Ghidorah for the 3rd film. But that's just me....The thing is, if you're making Godzilla battle a monster on the first movie, which I don't know wether it's a good move or not (probably not), it should be a household name, IMO. And yes, I agree about King Ghidorah being on the third movie. I said that too. The perfect story line, IMO, would be Mecha on second and KG on third. Actually, I'm gonna just put it down here what I'd do 'cause I thought about it a lot after I watched this movie:Godzilla 1: Make it take place in 1954. Only Godzilla. Godzilla is as tall as buildings back then. It's still young. In the end, they know they didn't kill it. They just made it go away.Godzilla 2: Make it take place during the cold war. Make specifically, during the cuban missile crisis. Godzilla appears in Cuba. US Government sends in secret Anti-Godzilla project they've been working on for a while since Godzilla disappeared in 1954: Mechagodzilla. Make it more "plausible". Mechagodzilla gets hijacked by cuban military and, after Godzilla goes away and ruins cuban missiles, Cuba decides to attack using Mechagodzilla, which appears on Florida coast. In the end, Godzilla saves the day. PS: Godzilla is now bigger than before, he has grown. Mechagodzilla is smaller than Godzilla.Godzilla 3: Only one that takes place in the present. Alien invasion. Make it a serious alien films half the way, until serious attack starts. Heavy radioactivity in the battle, Godzilla appears. Heavily scarred from Mechagodzilla battle, looks older. Starts knocking aliens out. Aliens start losing, bring out King Ghidorah. Godzilla VS King Ghidorah. Earth's chance stands on Godzilla. Godzilla wins. Yay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val22 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Yeah, making Godzilla a hero monster in the first movie is a bit odd since in the original movie back in the 50's, Godzilla was the monster who destroyed Tokyo and then later on became Japan's hero against all the other monsters that came after him.I probably will buy the dvd. I will be buying a lot of dvds, since I didn't see many movies so far this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 $500 million is laughable nowadays. I'm going to mock you since I don't understand basic maths.Why do you think Sony is upset that The Amazing Spider-Man 2 made "only" $700 million worldwide?The budget for that film was approx. $250 million. Marketing costs between $100-200 million. So we're talking about $400 million there.While major studios can negotiate for as much as 90% of the opening weekend gross (to encourage cinemas to play films longer), they then keep only 55% of the gross. So out of that $700 million, Sony will likely only just about break even on theatrical release. Sure, they'll make money back on DVD/Blu-Ray and the rest of the ancillary market, but that's not enough when you've dropped that much coin on a film, and the possibility that the planned sequels could make less means they're gonna have to lower the budget for them; they were really banking on it being a billion-dollar blockbuster as so many films are these days with the aid of inflation and the premium on 3D tickets.Godzilla cost about $160 million to produce. Throw a conservative $50 million marketing budget on top of that, that's $210 million. So they needed at least $400 million to break even (Legendary Pictures said $380 million, though they would give a more conservative figure: http://variety.com/2014/film/news/godzilla-seeks-worldwide-domination-at-the-box-office-1201181416/), which they have. But a $500 million worldwide gross doesn't bode well for sequels, especially seeing as in the US Godzilla had a pretty steep drop after its opening weekend due to poor word-of-mouth. They'll still go ahead with Godzilla 2, but they know it isn't going to be a guaranteed hit unless they change things up (i.e. give people more monster action, work on the human elements). That's why people are a bit surprised they're going ahead with a Pacific Rim 2, seeing as the first one only made $400 million worldwide (mostly thanks to overseas gross). I say all this as someone who loved the new Godzilla movie (almost went to see it a 3rd time in the IMAX here but £18 a go is just a bit too much). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zint Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 What's the current gross on this movie worldwide? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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