ericy210 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I think I can more accurately predict the exact score of the Super Bowl. At least I have facts to base it by. Axls been a total mystery with years of no or confusing communication. How can anyone predict anything? The evidence we have is that interviews have nothing to do with any resultant action. I'll just wait and not invest emotion in hope without reason. It's kind of like being in high school and drawing all sorts of conclusions when the hot cheerleader asks to borrow a pen. It's meaningless. Not some secret message with layers of meaning. Some things are what they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvH Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) Chi Dem was NOT badly mastered. It sported a "busy mix" if you will, but there was no problem with the mastering.The mix is way too loud, causing the instrument layering to clump together into a solid wall of sound. Catcher in the Rye probably suffered the most from thisSo, it's a mixing problem, and, like I said, has nothing to do with the mastering. Edited February 1, 2015 by EvH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkuk04 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Quite happy with how CD turned out. Wish some people would stop moaning. Be positive and look forward to what's coming next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSoftie Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 As an audio engineer I commend you: your assessment is correct, but your terminology is wrong. The mix isn't too loud-- it's just too dense and overwrought. There's no sonic space. Every centimeter of sonic real estate is taken up, either by Axl's overdubs or some useless nonsense from his employees. And so, the mix ends up very claustrophobic. The mastering is superb, however. It is most definitely NOT too loud.Pardon the OT, I don't suppose you'd be willing to give us amateurs some tips? (in anything goes I guess) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzgold Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I truly feel Axl is only now interested in moving forward with the release of CD ll. Why? Are there any signs to this that I missed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSoftie Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I truly feel Axl is only now interested in moving forward with the release of CD ll. Why? Are there any signs to this that I missed?He discussed it in an interview in 2014, which makes a change. He's been in the studio according to Fortus, TB and his own/Pitman's tweet. Feels like he's actually doing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dando Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Quite happy with how CD turned out. Wish some people would stop moaning. Be positive and look forward to what's coming next.I like CD it's a great record, riad and scraped are rubbish and there just so it's not a 12 track album, if it hadn't leaked a million times online it's have sold a lot more, not to mention shocking promotions from guns and the record company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkuk04 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Quite happy with how CD turned out. Wish some people would stop moaning. Be positive and look forward to what's coming next.I like CD it's a great record, riad and scraped are rubbish and there just so it's not a 12 track album, if it hadn't leaked a million times online it's have sold a lot more, not to mention shocking promotions from guns and the record companyriad & scraped grew on me. Beyonce didn't get much criticism for the way she released her album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dando Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Quite happy with how CD turned out. Wish some people would stop moaning. Be positive and look forward to what's coming next.I like CD it's a great record, riad and scraped are rubbish and there just so it's not a 12 track album, if it hadn't leaked a million times online it's have sold a lot more, not to mention shocking promotions from guns and the record company riad & scraped grew on me. Beyonce didn't get much criticism for the way she released her album.Maybe because Beyoncé is for 14 year old girls, what about the way U2 released theirs ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRfanMILO Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 CD didnt got released until some demos were leaked. I think the same will happen with CD2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceguy Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 As an audio engineer I commend you: your assessment is correct, but your terminology is wrong. The mix isn't too loud-- it's just too dense and overwrought. There's no sonic space. Every centimeter of sonic real estate is taken up, either by Axl's overdubs or some useless nonsense from his employees. And so, the mix ends up very claustrophobic. The mastering is superb, however. It is most definitely NOT too loud.Pardon the OT, I don't suppose you'd be willing to give us amateurs some tips? (in anything goes I guess)Sure! Should I create a thread there or something? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkuk04 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Quite happy with how CD turned out. Wish some people would stop moaning. Be positive and look forward to what's coming next.I like CD it's a great record, riad and scraped are rubbish and there just so it's not a 12 track album, if it hadn't leaked a million times online it's have sold a lot more, not to mention shocking promotions from guns and the record company riad & scraped grew on me. Beyonce didn't get much criticism for the way she released her album.Maybe because Beyoncé is for 14 year old girls, what about the way U2 released theirs ?Beyonce is for all women basically and men that admit they listen to her, i realize its not 1991 anymore and GNR are not the most popular thing around but the way she released that album was a smart move due to the torrents etc. U2 have almost ruined there legacy due to that Apple deal, that's not the way to go doing something like that will lose you your casual fans and lots of hardcore fans. Look at the way Metallica was ridiculed due to that whole Napster ordeal, Lars made himself look like a total asshole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dando Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Quite happy with how CD turned out. Wish some people would stop moaning. Be positive and look forward to what's coming next.I like CD it's a great record, riad and scraped are rubbish and there just so it's not a 12 track album, if it hadn't leaked a million times online it's have sold a lot more, not to mention shocking promotions from guns and the record company riad & scraped grew on me. Beyonce didn't get much criticism for the way she released her album.Maybe because Beyoncé is for 14 year old girls, what about the way U2 released theirs ? Beyonce is for all women basically and men that admit they listen to her, i realize its not 1991 anymore and GNR are not the most popular thing around but the way she released that album was a smart move due to the torrents etc. U2 have almost ruined there legacy due to that Apple deal, that's not the way to go doing something like that will lose you your casual fans and lots of hardcore fans. Look at the way Metallica was ridiculed due to that whole Napster ordeal, Lars made himself look like a total asshole.True, I agree with Metallica and U2 deals. GNR didn't do themselves any big favours with the best buy idea, what a shit idea that was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.wa.T Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Quite happy with how CD turned out. Wish some people would stop moaning. Be positive and look forward to what's coming next.I like CD it's a great record, riad and scraped are rubbish and there just so it's not a 12 track album, if it hadn't leaked a million times online it's have sold a lot more, not to mention shocking promotions from guns and the record companyriad & scraped grew on me. Beyonce didn't get much criticism for the way she released her album.Maybe because Beyoncé is for 14 year old girls, what about the way U2 released theirs ?Beyonce is for all women basically and men that admit they listen to her, i realize its not 1991 anymore and GNR are not the most popular thing around but the way she released that album was a smart move due to the torrents etc. U2 have almost ruined there legacy due to that Apple deal, that's not the way to go doing something like that will lose you your casual fans and lots of hardcore fans. Look at the way Metallica was ridiculed due to that whole Napster ordeal, Lars made himself look like a total asshole.True, I agree with Metallica and U2 deals. GNR didn't do themselves any big favours with the best buy idea, what a shit idea that wasWhy was it a shit deal for GnR? GnR and the label got paid and then some. Best Buy are the ones who got rooked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkuk04 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Quite happy with how CD turned out. Wish some people would stop moaning. Be positive and look forward to what's coming next.I like CD it's a great record, riad and scraped are rubbish and there just so it's not a 12 track album, if it hadn't leaked a million times online it's have sold a lot more, not to mention shocking promotions from guns and the record company riad & scraped grew on me. Beyonce didn't get much criticism for the way she released her album.Maybe because Beyoncé is for 14 year old girls, what about the way U2 released theirs ? Beyonce is for all women basically and men that admit they listen to her, i realize its not 1991 anymore and GNR are not the most popular thing around but the way she released that album was a smart move due to the torrents etc. U2 have almost ruined there legacy due to that Apple deal, that's not the way to go doing something like that will lose you your casual fans and lots of hardcore fans. Look at the way Metallica was ridiculed due to that whole Napster ordeal, Lars made himself look like a total asshole.True, I agree with Metallica and U2 deals. GNR didn't do themselves any big favours with the best buy idea, what a shit idea that wasIt wasn't shit on though from all angles, appeared on peoples phones. Seemed like a perfectly good negotiated deal to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gackt Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Chi Dem was NOT badly mastered. It sported a "busy mix" if you will, but there was no problem with the mastering.The mix is way too loud, causing the instrument layering to clump together into a solid wall of sound. Catcher in the Rye probably suffered the most from thisSo, it's a mixing problem, and, like I said, has nothing to do with the mastering.Alright, I'll change my wording to it needing to be "remixed" than "remastered"Better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSoftie Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 As an audio engineer I commend you: your assessment is correct, but your terminology is wrong. The mix isn't too loud-- it's just too dense and overwrought. There's no sonic space. Every centimeter of sonic real estate is taken up, either by Axl's overdubs or some useless nonsense from his employees. And so, the mix ends up very claustrophobic. The mastering is superb, however. It is most definitely NOT too loud.Pardon the OT, I don't suppose you'd be willing to give us amateurs some tips? (in anything goes I guess)Sure! Should I create a thread there or something?Yes please that'd be awesome man. I'll go into details in the thread but I just started using Ableton and need all the help I can get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceguy Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 As an audio engineer I commend you: your assessment is correct, but your terminology is wrong.The mix isn't too loud-- it's just too dense and overwrought. There's no sonic space. Every centimeter of sonic real estate is taken up, either by Axl's overdubs or some useless nonsense from his employees.And so, the mix ends up very claustrophobic.The mastering is superb, however. It is most definitely NOT too loud.Pardon the OT, I don't suppose you'd be willing to give us amateurs some tips? (in anything goes I guess)Sure! Should I create a thread there or something?Yes please that'd be awesome man. I'll go into details in the thread but I just started using Ableton and need all the help I can get Done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvH Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Chi Dem was NOT badly mastered. It sported a "busy mix" if you will, but there was no problem with the mastering.The mix is way too loud, causing the instrument layering to clump together into a solid wall of sound. Catcher in the Rye probably suffered the most from thisSo, it's a mixing problem, and, like I said, has nothing to do with the mastering.Alright, I'll change my wording to it needing to be "remixed" than "remastered"Better? Haha no worries mate ! Just wanted to clarify because the confusion is extremely common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majestic Beast Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 The story behind CD I & II, a great scenario for documentary in future,what gone wrong,who's faults for lost years,worth the wait or not, responsibility of disc company for the promotion,how money Axl wasted,how music rock scene accepted or rejected the new sound,the failed DVD etc.Possible CD II will worth the wait? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 55 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 The story behind CD I & II, a great scenario for documentary in future,what gone wrong,who's faults for lost years,worth the wait or not, responsibility of disc company for the promotion,how money Axl wasted,how music rock scene accepted or rejected the new sound,the failed DVD etc.Possible CD II will worth the wait?Is there a choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amacfantasy Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) This all sounds like good news to me, cuz if you have ever read any of my comments over the years you would know I would prefer to hear ALL the CD era material before any current band new stuff. Edited February 4, 2015 by amacfantasy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mao5 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 there will be no album this year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnrjanus Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 There will be no gn'r this year. Look I made something up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkuk04 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 There was gnr in 2008 but we got an album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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