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2 hours ago, DieselDaisy said:

£39bn.

Personally I wouldn't pay them a penny. Just tell them to bugger off. 

40 or 50 doesn't make any difference. If you singned a contract. And later you want out, meaning breaking that contract. You can't tell the other part to fuck off. Being a member of the EU is something somewhat similar.

Despite of what you believe. Leaving the EU doesn't mean taking back control. It just means isolation. It means nobody can trust you because you change your mind. And you are careless about any given agreement you might sign.

But it's Theresa May who wants a soft Brexit. You have to ask her why she doesn't think it's a good idea to tell the EU to fuck off

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43 minutes ago, Padme said:

40 or 50 doesn't make any difference. If you singned a contract. And later you want out, meaning breaking that contract. You can't tell the other part to fuck off. Being a member of the EU is something somewhat similar.

Despite of what you believe. Leaving the EU doesn't mean taking back control. It just means isolation. It means nobody can trust you because you change your mind. And you are careless about any given agreement you might sign.

But it's Theresa May who wants a soft Brexit. You have to ask her why she doesn't think it's a good idea to tell the EU to fuck off

That is why I'd have David Davis as PM. 

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7 hours ago, Padme said:

Ok, then why spend 50 billion on EU exit bill? 

Long term hope? But it’s probably just short term gains of a few. Like what would Boris do with the influx of money, free hand gliding lessons? Make Cricket compulsory at schools. 

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7 hours ago, DieselDaisy said:

£39bn.

Personally I wouldn't pay them a penny. Just tell them to bugger off. 

The UK does protect the whole of europe with it’s military. The only reward is to be allowed to borrow money from the world bank to look after refugees from US nuked areas of the middle east. 

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The protesters seem to have hung every leftist grievance around Trump. Just about every shouty lefty has emerged, homosexuality and transgenderisms, feminists, ecoisms/greenisms (old fashioned hippy causes), unionist traditional left (complaining about tariffs), general Corbynista tweeting millenials and Brexit remoaners. Whatever happened to decency and decorum in this country?

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19 hours ago, DieselDaisy said:

The protesters seem to have hung every leftist grievance around Trump. Just about every shouty lefty has emerged, homosexuality and transgenderisms, feminists, ecoisms/greenisms (old fashioned hippy causes), unionist traditional left (complaining about tariffs), general Corbynista tweeting millenials and Brexit remoaners. Whatever happened to decency and decorum in this country?

So for you Trump represent decency and decorum? :rofl-lol:

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6 hours ago, Kasanova King said:

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What is practised in Europe isn't really socialism though, I thought this was pretty much understood by all and sundry.  What really socialist nations are there in Europe?  There aren't any really, they just apply certain aspects of it but there are no true socialist countries in Europe.

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1 hour ago, Padme said:

So for you Trump represent decency and decorum? :rofl-lol:

You misunderstood me - not for the first time. I believe as a nation you should be able to greet people you do not necessarily agree with, or even dislike, in a rational manner, plus there is the added element of the dignity of office: regardless of how one feels about Trump he is visiting here as the incumbent of the President of the United States.

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12 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

plus there is the added element of the dignity of office:

That shits long gone for a toss.  There's been a general degrading I feel, of politicians over history in terms of like, y'know, the qualities of the individual and that.  On the decorum point, its might be worth pointing out that this is the country where someone shoved a pork chop unless Jewish prime minister Disraelis nose before now.

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3 minutes ago, Len Cnut said:

That shits long gone for a toss.  There's been a general degrading I feel, of politicians over history in terms of like, y'know, the qualities of the individual and that.  On the decorum point, its might be worth pointing out that this is the country where someone shoved a pork chop unless Jewish prime minister Disraelis nose before now.

Ribbentrop was ambassador here, and everyone thought he was a complete wanker. He arrived here as an undiluted Anglophile, tea and scones, partaking of the hunt, etc., and left here a thorough Anglophobe as Britain's ''polite society'' found him to be a ridiculous fella, his clunky attempts to ingratiate himself, his Nazi salute to the king (George VI politely dismissed it with, ''well people from the colonies greet me with their own national greeting''). 

But then just everybody in the Nazi party absolutely loathed Ribbentrop also. Hitler rather kept him around, shielded him, for some odd reason.  

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16 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

You misunderstood me - not for the first time. I believe as a nation you should be able to greet people you do not necessarily agree with, or even dislike, in a rational manner, plus there is the added element of the dignity of office: regardless of how one feels about Trump he is visiting here as the incumbent of the President of the United States.

That's Theresa May's job. The citizen has the right to protest. When there is a G20 meeting or any world leaders meeting there are demostrations. Honestly I think demostrations are a waste of time because nothing is going to change. But I think if people want to demostrate they have the right. And I don't care if they are gay, women, union or whatever

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Just now, Padme said:

That's Theresa May's job. The citizen has the right to protest. When there is a G20 meeting or any world leaders meeting there are demostrations. Honestly I think demostrations are a waste of time because nothing is going to change. But I think if people want to demostrate they have the right. And I don't care if they are gay, women, union or whatever

What are these people protesting about exactly? From their placards, 

Gay, Lesbian rights? Donald Trump has no impact on the situation of people from that social group in Britain.

Misogyny? Trump does not impede on the rights/standing of British women? Our own employers, e.g., the BBC, do a good enough job of that themselves! 

Brexit? Well it was the British political class who campaigned in that, for/against, and the British people who voted for it, 17,410,742 voting to leave. 

Racial matters? Again, Trump has no control over how this proceeds in Britain. It was Britain's own governments who made a dog's dinner over the Windrush generation.

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2 hours ago, Len Cnut said:

What is practised in Europe isn't really socialism though, I thought this was pretty much understood by all and sundry.  What really socialist nations are there in Europe?  There aren't any really, they just apply certain aspects of it but there are no true socialist countries in Europe.

Pretty sure that's the point of the joke.

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15 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

What are these people protesting about exactly? From their placards, 

Gay, Lesbian rights? Donald Trump has no impact on the situation of people from that social group in Britain.

Misogyny? Trump does not impede on the rights/standing of British women? Our own employers, e.g., the BBC, do a good enough job of that themselves! 

Brexit? Well it was the British political class who campaigned in that, for/against, and the British people who voted for it, 17,410,742 voting to leave. 

Racial matters? Again, Trump has no control over how this proceeds in Britain. It was Britain's own governments who made a dog's dinner over the Windrush generation.

They are just expressing they don't agree with his views, about Brexit and other issues. They are expressing solidarity with immigrants, gays, women, etc in the U.S. as well.

They are expressing that not every single citizen in the UK loves him. In fact there were a few and small demotrations supporting Trump. The media reported about those demostrations as well

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2 minutes ago, Padme said:

They are just expressing they don't agree with his views, about Brexit and other issues. They are expressing solidarity with immigrants, gays, women, etc in the U.S. as well.

They are expressing that not every single citizen in the UK loves him. In fact there were a few and small demotrations supporting Trump. The media reported about those demostrations as well

It makes no sense basically.

A shouty bunch of gobshites hanging every left-wing grievance around Trump and disgracing themselves.

Homosexuality? Where were these protesting types when the Commonwealth nations were here recently, 37 of which prohibit homosexuality? There were some protests but not on the scale we have seen for Trump. Trump is guilty of many things but he has not introduced stoning for homosexuality (yet!). 

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