Swedish Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 I wonder what GN'R would sound like with Bob Ezrin behind the board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Dog Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 3 hours ago, RONIN said: A lot of people are saying Clink but a lot of people had issues with the sound of UYI But were the issues about the actual sound on UYI? I always felt like the big issue was the over the top extra stuff added in. That's more on Axl and the band than Clink. This is the same guy that produced AFD. I think the actual sound of UYI is fine for the most part. Izzy said that thing about hearing nothing but Slash coming out the speaker, but I feel that's a bit exaggerated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Dog Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 5 hours ago, wasted said: Flick of the Switch is underated. Who produced Back in Black? Mutt Lange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXL_N_DIZZY Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Clink or Caram. Frankly don't see how there's time or willpower to see if Axl/Guns would "gel" with anyone else at this point. Pick one of the guys that's actually gotten the band to the finish line in the past and don't look back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 I strongly believe there will be an AC/DC album sooner than Guns (mostly because Angus actually likes to release music ), so there's a good opportunity for Axl to try out Brendan O'Brien! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RONIN Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 3 hours ago, Silent Jay said: Caram, Axl and Pitman. WTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXL_N_DIZZY Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) 20 minutes ago, James Bond said: I strongly believe there will be an AC/DC album sooner than Guns (mostly because Angus actually likes to release music ), so there's a good opportunity for Axl to try out Brendan O'Brien! Ha. Would still strongly favor Clink or Caram though. Would hate after 3 years to get a quote like "We really appreciate Brendan's contributions- and though he's done a great job capturing AC/DC in the past- we have ultimately decided he's not the best for Guns...". Edited April 26, 2017 by AXL_N_DIZZY 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RONIN Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 30 minutes ago, J Dog said: But were the issues about the actual sound on UYI? I always felt like the big issue was the over the top extra stuff added in. That's more on Axl and the band than Clink. This is the same guy that produced AFD. I think the actual sound of UYI is fine for the most part. Izzy said that thing about hearing nothing but Slash coming out the speaker, but I feel that's a bit exaggerated. It's that overproduction stuff but also the way the instruments sound and vocals. The drums sound like shit on UYI. The Izzy riffage is muted on UYI and only Slash knows what the deal there is -- whether Izzy actually never showed up to the sessions or if him and Clink just decided to bury Iz in the mix. I'm all for Clink but people bitch all the time here about the way those albums sound. He's the only guy who has gotten Axl to turn in work willingly. 19 hours ago, BreakDown2014 said: Anyone but Axl Rose THIS. QUOTED FOR TEAM BRAZIL. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD KEEP HIM AWAY. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendez Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 1 hour ago, youngswedishvinyl said: I wonder what GN'R would sound like with Bob Ezrin behind the board? I doubt Axl would consider working with him again after "two good songs" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 6 hours ago, wasted said: Flick of the Switch is underated. Who produced Back in Black? Mutt Lange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Dog Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 27 minutes ago, RONIN said: It's that overproduction stuff but also the way the instruments sound and vocals. The drums sound like shit on UYI. The Izzy riffage is muted on UYI and only Slash knows what the deal there is -- whether Izzy actually never showed up to the sessions or if him and Clink just decided to bury Iz in the mix. I'm all for Clink but people bitch all the time here about the way those albums sound. He's the only guy who has gotten Axl to turn in work willingly. Yeah the drums were iffy I'm with you there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, RONIN said: It's that overproduction stuff but also the way the instruments sound and vocals. The drums sound like shit on UYI. The Izzy riffage is muted on UYI and only Slash knows what the deal there is -- whether Izzy actually never showed up to the sessions or if him and Clink just decided to bury Iz in the mix. I'm all for Clink but people bitch all the time here about the way those albums sound. He's the only guy who has gotten Axl to turn in work willingly. Agreed. I wonder if it may have some to do with what Clink was presented with by the band? With Axl being into things like doubling his vocals an octave lower and breathing sexy. Slash changing his tone a lot for Illusions by using an equalizer pedal; it boosts so much that it just takes up so much space/frequencies in the mix. And piano and guitar fight for frequencies as well - especially when its a metal guitar tone and honky tonk style piano. So an engineer has to figure out how to handle Slashs huge tone, and still carve out pockets in the mix for piano and breathy, whispered vocal ad libs. And Duff maybe used his chorus pedal a bit too much. Edit: just realized this is maybe what @J Dog was already speaking too Edited April 26, 2017 by soon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swedish Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 2 hours ago, Mendez said: I doubt Axl would consider working with him again after "two good songs" Right, I forgot about that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklord Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 We can talk a lot about this but there is only one guy that would do this and it's Rick Rubin. It's gonna be overproduced, one big hit and 7 songs trying to sound like that one and 4 interesting ones #mmw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA_0013 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Mike Clink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendez Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Nicklord said: We can talk a lot about this but there is only one guy that would do this and it's Rick Rubin. It's gonna be overproduced, one big hit and 7 songs trying to sound like that one and 4 interesting ones #mmw Don't forget brickwalling into oblivion to win the loudness war 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexC Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 7 minutes ago, Mendez said: Don't forget brickwalling into oblivion to win the loudness war Yeah Rick Rubin immediately came to my mind but then I remembered what Vol. 3: The Subliminal Verses, Death Magnetic and 13 sounded like. Deafening riffage for an hour. So much so that you forget everything that you've just heard. I do think if he was involved solely for creative purposes and artistry then yes, I think he has the assertiveness to get the best performances out of them. Just don't let him anywhere near the mixing process. Plus he produced the American Recording albums. The best work of Johnny Cash's career imo. Someone who has the genius to pair Nine Inch Nails, Soundgarden and Depeche Mode with an icon like Cash is perfectly qualified to take on the mammoth task of producing a Guns N' Roses record in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Alice Cooper. Slash and Axl into horror. Album called "Halloween Tree". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Clink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
default_ Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 They sould call Earnie C and create a hard bluesy thrash industrial hip hop album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 8 hours ago, default_ said: They sould call Earnie C and create a hard bluesy thrash industrial hip hop album. considering to most of us fans cd was axls industrial solo record hopefully that ship has long sailed on hearing anything industrial again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Izzy Stradlin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 On 26.4.2017 at 10:44 AM, wasted said: Who produced Back in Black? Mutt Lange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Malcolm Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 17 hours ago, AlexC said: Yeah Rick Rubin immediately came to my mind but then I remembered what Vol. 3: The Subliminal Verses, Death Magnetic and 13 sounded like. Deafening riffage for an hour. So much so that you forget everything that you've just heard. I do think if he was involved solely for creative purposes and artistry then yes, I think he has the assertiveness to get the best performances out of them. Just don't let him anywhere near the mixing process. Plus he produced the American Recording albums. The best work of Johnny Cash's career imo. Someone who has the genius to pair Nine Inch Nails, Soundgarden and Depeche Mode with an icon like Cash is perfectly qualified to take on the mammoth task of producing a Guns N' Roses record in my book. Rubin's input could be good in terms of sheer decision making. He's done that role without actually producing for NIN and Kanye West. However, Ezrin was supposed to do that for Chinese Democracy and Axl hated it. Rubin has a more diplomatic reputation and this role is blatantly needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerInThisTown Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) Elvis Baskette. That moment the main riff in Dirty Girl comes in with the massive sounding guitars and bass is one of my favourite Slash moments ever. If Mike Clink is not available of course. Mutt Lange would be really interesting aswell. Edited April 27, 2017 by StrangerInThisTown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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