DieselDaisy Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 I'd have lopped-off My World, Don't Cry (alt lyrics), Shotgun Blues and So Fine making them b-sides, apart from My World which should be blasted into oblivion, and replaced them with Crash Diet, Bring It Back Home and Ain't Going Down. That would have improved considerably the Illusion albums. I'd have also stuck the TSI stuff out as Illusion b-sides, and moved You Could Be Mine up the running order, possibly opening the second album with that song - it seems misplaced so far down the order. In an ideal world though I'd have removed all of the overdubs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fin Posted June 25, 2017 Author Share Posted June 25, 2017 47 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: I'd have lopped-off My World, Don't Cry (alt lyrics), Shotgun Blues and So Fine making them b-sides, apart from My World which should be blasted into oblivion, and replaced them with Crash Diet, Bring It Back Home and Ain't Going Down. That would have improved considerably the Illusion albums. I'd have also stuck the TSI stuff out as Illusion b-sides, and moved You Could Be Mine up the running order, possibly opening the second album with that song - it seems misplaced so far down the order. In an ideal world though I'd have removed all of the overdubs. So Fine is a very good song, however was misplaced after Locomotive. Should have been placed after Perfect Crime, in my opinion. I agree with you on YCBM, if could have made a decent opener. Civil War somewhere in the middle. Never really liked the last two-three minutes of Civil War, overblown. It interesting how songs can sound different depending on where they are placed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2414225 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 I disagree. But Chinese Democracy should have been a triple album in 2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 They should have put the weaker Illusion songs and TSI songs out as b-sides, and then somewhere along the line put out a similar album to Oasis's Masterplan which gathers them together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2414225 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, DieselDaisy said: They should have put the weaker Illusion songs and TSI songs out as b-sides, and then somewhere along the line put out a similar album to Oasis's Masterplan which gathers them together. TSI was a very weak album. Weak songs that didn't catch their musical inspirations at all. And except for SIDHY the covers were just 1:1 covers. The album should have contained: Mama Kin by Aerosmith Whole Lotta Rosie / Riff Raff by ACDC Sympathy for the Devil or Wild Horses by The Rolling Stones Helter Skelter by the Beatles. As fuck you for Charles Manson. Only women bleed by Alice Cooper Sail away sweet sister by Queen Mother by Pink Floyd Passenger by Iggy Pop Tuesday's gone / Free Bird / Simple man by Lynyrd Skynyrd One of the punk songs Duff liked And maybe a Who, Elton John or Led Zeppelin song. These bands obviously influenced the band the most and not the punk stuff on TSI. Edited June 25, 2017 by 2414225 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RONIN Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 7 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: I'd have lopped-off My World, Don't Cry (alt lyrics), Shotgun Blues and So Fine making them b-sides, apart from My World which should be blasted into oblivion, and replaced them with Crash Diet, Bring It Back Home and Ain't Going Down. That would have improved considerably the Illusion albums. I'd have also stuck the TSI stuff out as Illusion b-sides, and moved You Could Be Mine up the running order, possibly opening the second album with that song - it seems misplaced so far down the order. In an ideal world though I'd have removed all of the overdubs. Agreed. I would also include "Get in the Ring" as a b-side instrumental similar to "Orion" from Metallica. That way, we would have been spared Axl's childish lyrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanG Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 7 hours ago, Fin said: So Fine is a very good song, however was misplaced after Locomotive. Should have been placed after Perfect Crime, in my opinion. I always liked So Fine too. The piano is excellent and the almost bluesy verse and the punky dynamic change in the post-chorus make this song a nice contribution. The only part that is unfortunate is that Duff isn't a great singer and his half speaking/singing style doesn't benefit the song. And Axl's perverted oohhhh's and aaahhhh's in this song are annoying too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zurimor Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 9 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: I'd have lopped-off My World, Don't Cry (alt lyrics), Shotgun Blues and So Fine making them b-sides, apart from My World which should be blasted into oblivion, and replaced them with Crash Diet, Bring It Back Home and Ain't Going Down. That would have improved considerably the Illusion albums. I'd have also stuck the TSI stuff out as Illusion b-sides, and moved You Could Be Mine up the running order, possibly opening the second album with that song - it seems misplaced so far down the order. In an ideal world though I'd have removed all of the overdubs. Seems like I'm one the the few which really like My World... Well, I never had a standard musical taste, so iut's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Dog Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 I honestly wouldn't change UYI too much. I guess I could swap maybe Shotgun Blues and My World out with something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98izzark Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Similar to the 2004 greatest hits the Use Your Illusion compilation tracklist is complete bullshit. With that and how alot of people like to say that UYI II is better than the fist because of UYI I's "filler" (which I think is insane) I figured why not leave it to the actual fans to make out what they think is the better batch of the Illusion songs. Here's my list, share your opinion and tracklist. I chose the number of 15 based off the happy medium of Illusion 1 & 2's 16 and 14 respective song count. 1.Civil War 2. Dust N’ Bones 3. Live and Let Die 4.Don’t Cry 5.14 Years 6. Get in the Ring 7. Bad Obsession 8. Double Talkin’ Jive 9. So Fine 10. Knockin' on Heaven's Door 11. Pretty Tied Up 12. Dead Horse 13. Garden of Eden 14. You Could Be Mine 15. Estranged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexC Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) 1. Civil War 2. 14 Years 3. Live and Let Die 4. Yesterdays 5. Don't Cry 6. Knockin' on Heaven's Door 7. Breakdown 8. Double Talkin' Jive 9. Locomotive 10. November Rain 11. The Garden 12. Estranged 13. You Could Be Mine 14. Dead Horse 15. Coma Edited July 3, 2017 by AlexC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby845 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 They are right.. there's a lot of filler on UYI... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexC Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 3 hours ago, 98izzark said: Similar to the 2004 greatest hits the Use Your Illusion compilation tracklist is complete bullshit. With that and how alot of people like to say that UYI II is better than the fist because of UYI I's "filler" (which I think is insane) I figured why not leave it to the actual fans to make out what they think is the better batch of the Illusion songs. Here's my list, share your opinion and tracklist. I chose the number of 15 based off the happy medium of Illusion 1 & 2's 16 and 14 respective song count. 1.Civil War 2. Dust N’ Bones 3. Live and Let Die 4.Don’t Cry 5.14 Years 6. Get in the Ring 7. Bad Obsession 8. Double Talkin’ Jive 9. So Fine 10. Knockin' on Heaven's Door 11. Pretty Tied Up 12. Dead Horse 13. Garden of Eden 14. You Could Be Mine 15. Estranged Interestingly enough you've included more UYI II songs than UYI I contrary to your statement that I isn't as good as II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98izzark Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, AlexC said: Interestingly enough you've included more UYI II songs than UYI I contrary to your statement that I isn't as good as II. Only by one song and that's because I put KOHD even tho I don't even like the UYI version with Sorum. I chose that because I'm sure people would rather see that than You Ain't the First which I perfer to it. As a whole I like Illusion I more but there's some badass shit on UYI II Edited July 3, 2017 by 98izzark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimezy Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 No rules just comment your perfect UYI album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Jay Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Use Your Illusion You Could Be Mine Live And Let Die Don't Damn Me Don't Cry Coma Double Talkin' Jive November Rain Dust N' Bones Pretty Tied Up Knockin' On Heaven's Door 14 Years Yesterdays Estranged My World 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucketfoot Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) 1. Perfect Crime 2. Dust N' Bones 3. Don't Cry 4. Bad Obsession 5. November Rain 6. Don't Damn Me 7. Dead Horse 8. Civil War 9. 14 Years 10. Pretty Tied Up 11. Locomotive 12. Estranged 13. You Could Be Mine 14. Coma Edited July 4, 2017 by bucketfoot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 use all izzy original guitars, keep it raw production, and release a bonus discs with all the spagethi tracks (and other tracks like aint going down) they recorded during the illusion sessions 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaguns1982 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Coma civil war ycbm nov rain dont cry yesterdays shotgun blues back off bitch dead horse perfect crime so fine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) 1. Coma 2. Double Talkin' Jive 3. Breakdown 4. Perfect Crime 5. You Could Be Mine 6. Dust N' Bones 7. Don't Cry 8. Civil War 9. Bad Apples 10. Pretty Tied Up 11. November Rain 12. You Ain't The First 13. Estranged Edited July 4, 2017 by Gordon Comstock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) Right Next Door to Hell Dust N' Bones Live And Let Die Don't Cry Perfect Crime Bad Obsession Back Off Bitch November Rain Dead Horse Coma Civil War 14 Years Yesterdays Knocking on Heavens Door Shotgun Blues Breakdown Pretty Tied Up Locomotive Estranged You Could Be Mine Singles / b-sides: You Ain't The First Get In The Ring Dont Cry (Alt.) My World Edited July 4, 2017 by Sosso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holographic Universe Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 It is perfect for me as is. People forget the banded recorded and released all of thier songs, so the next album after UYI would be fresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lies They Tell Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 1. You Could Be Mine 2. Perfect Crime 3. Locomotive 4. The Garden 5. Don't Cry 6. Live N' Let Die 7. Don't Damn Me 8. November Rain 9. Yesterdays 10. Double Talkin' Jive 11. Pretty Tied Up 12. 14 Years 13. Estranged 14. Coma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) You Could Be Mine Double Talking Jive You Ain't the First Bad Obsession Bad Apples The Garden Civil War Right Next Door to Hell Dust N Bones Dead Horse Yesterdays Pretty Tied Up 14 Years Breakdown Edited July 4, 2017 by wasted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcon Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Pinnacle of songwriting on first side, band speaking to own demise on second side. YCBM DC NR Estranged Coma Locomotive PTU CW DTJ DH 14 Years Breakdown Yesterdays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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