Jw224 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 19 minutes ago, TheGeneral said: What if... ...Angus listened to that Rosie from yesterday and decides to get rid of Axl... ...Axl then is so pissed that he decides to make the most amazing GNR album ever just to completely bury AC/DC, as a big FU to Angus... Okay okay, one can dream Yeah that performance is kinda worrying tbf lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Rose Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 20 hours ago, Stro said: Lol. Saying the notoriously bitchy, catty, negative online GNR fanbase is full of fickle cunts that will ALWAYS complain about something = triggered snowflake meltdown. If you say so. If you could fit in "libtard", that'd give you so much more power and rasp to your post. That's funny, I'll take that on the chin. Incidentally, I would have voted for Trump if I was American, I hope he gets a second run and I can't wait to see Clinton, Podesta etc in prison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gem Archer Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 this is bad, he's singing in a completely different key.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Gem Archer said: this is bad, he's singing in a completely different key.... Axl must be going deaf, only explanation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Minus Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 He better hope he isn't going deaf.... Angus Young is pretty ruthless in disposing of singers with hearing problems. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrolg Posted July 10, 2018 Author Share Posted July 10, 2018 44 minutes ago, IncitingChaos said: Axl must be going deaf, only explanation It's either 1) monitor issues, as he sings nearly the whole song in the wrong range, but somewhat gets it right at the end or 2) voice/range issues, he can no longer hit those notes consistently with rasp. It could be one, both or a mix of both. He's had issues with high notes on this leg, and he had issues with his ear monitor too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeancarlo Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 (edited) Sorry for my english. I've been following the forum since 2001. And honestly, he never did any surgery, he just always tried to find the best way to sing. From 88 to 92 you realize how much he saw that he was able to give more power to the voice, and in 93 the voice got weaker, that's a fact. But when he came back, his current voice is the same as Live Era, which is the best voice he's ever had, falsetto mixed with drive in measure. But nowadays, he has nothing to prove to anyone and is sick of singing the same songs, so he does not train before, but during shows. Then the lack of preparation makes the voice become sloppy, and as the shows evolve it improves and puts some of its power, but with caution for some reason. And for those who have been to concerts since 2010, like me, realizes that something in the live recording does not capture the right voice and energy of the moment. Is different. This voice in the shows is intense and strong. And somehow he may be preserving to continue for a long time. His voice changed the tone a little bit by age, but in 2010, using Bucharest as an example, he chose to sing the entire show with a drive. I still think I prefer more voice and less drive, but I understand you. Advice to younger fans. If you want the voice with drive the whole show, forget it. Enjoy while you can, I learned to like the Axl brings nowadays, it looks like Mickey? Sometimes, but I find it good in a weird way. In 2002 when I was 12, I just listened to my old collection, today I prefer to listen to current ones, including my favorite version of YCBM is RAR 2006, and I hated it, but also, one of my favorite shows is Leeds 2002. I think interesting singers who reinvent themselves, imagine how many shows he has done, changes are good. And if he has already put that voice on the CD, it's because he likes it too, so he knows what he's doing. Edited July 10, 2018 by jeancarlo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caedo Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 4 hours ago, Pedrolg said: It's either 1) monitor issues, as he sings nearly the whole song in the wrong range, but somewhat gets it right at the end or 2) voice/range issues, he can no longer hit those notes consistently with rasp. It could be one, both or a mix of both. He's had issues with high notes on this leg, and he had issues with his ear monitor too. Or they fixed up the sound during the solo and it was sorted out by the last chorus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F*ck Fear Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 15 hours ago, Gem Archer said: this is bad, he's singing in a completely different key.... It's not that bad! Don't be so negative! Axl isn't 25 anymore, he's 56! We're you actually at the concert? People actually PAID for that, you know? In all seriousness though, that was fucking terrible. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 19 hours ago, Gem Archer said: this is bad, he's singing in a completely different key.... This is the Axl voice thread. And that's not an Axl voice issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 17 hours ago, Pedrolg said: It's either 1) monitor issues, as he sings nearly the whole song in the wrong range, but somewhat gets it right at the end or 2) voice/range issues, he can no longer hit those notes consistently with rasp. It could be one, both or a mix of both. He's had issues with high notes on this leg, and he had issues with his ear monitor too. Yes.. But.. getting tired of this "high notes issues" hypothesis. Prove me that's the case as a general fact (that underline means that TIL in Berlin can't be used to prove a general fact for this tour) Meanwhile, this represents his ability to hit high notes. In general. Listen at 1:15. And the same part at any Maddy been played so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onurbayrak03 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Maddy's intro is always great. That mid range with rasp is still there. He just uses it occasionally. This isnt about age... Just preference guys 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFGnR Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) Jungle in Poland 2017 vs. 2018, recorded by the same person: 2017 just edging out 2018 here. Also, note to self: See GnR in Poland! Edited July 11, 2018 by AFGnR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristianGNR Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Axl voice has a really nice “comfort zone” in songs like nightrain or chinese. he still can sing, but he has to find a better zone in songs like rq, scom and ycbm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I’ve been pretty impressed by, say, his Shadow performances so far especially after 2018 got off to an absolutely dreadful start. Timing issues aside he usually sounds pretty damn great. However, on the other end of the spectrum, I could not get through that Rosie posted above. Ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sl4yer Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, AFGnR said: Jungle in Poland 2017 vs. 2018, recorded by the same person: 2017 just edging out 2018 here. Also, note to self: See GnR in Poland! In first verse absolutely Choruses are about the same second verse 2017 win and third 2018 win for me, better low part Edited July 11, 2018 by sl4yer d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanfzero Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 3 hours ago, shootingstar said: Yes.. But.. getting tired of this "high notes issues" hypothesis. Prove me that's the case as a general fact (that underline means that TIL in Berlin can't be used to prove a general fact for this tour) Meanwhile, this represents his ability to hit high notes. In general. Listen at 1:15. And the same part at any Maddy been played so far. TIL sounded beautiful for me in Madrid 2017, but it was crap in Madrid 2018, Axl almost did not use rasp in the song and he struggled to reach the high notes, while in 2017 he nailed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, fanfzero said: TIL sounded beautiful for me in Madrid 2017, but it was crap in Madrid 2018, Axl almost did not use rasp in the song and he struggled to reach the high notes, while in 2017 he nailed it Just.. no? I only came over half of the song from 2018 in Madrid on YouTube - the choruses before and after the solo. He has "just" slightly more rasp than the studio version. Not ok? Honestly, the difference is "crap" and nailing it" between these two versions? You guys can't be serious? There's differences on word by word comparison, yes, but overall there's one superior over another? No. Just no. 2018 2017 But comparing Madrid 2018 to Madrid 2017 , or my morning boner 2017 to 2018 on one single occasion, doesn't make it general. Here's from Netherlands 2018, and his rasp and depth even on the someti.es shaky verses is superior to both versions above. Not sure I even have to add "in my opinion" as it's closer to a fact. And another TIL version from 2018 even more superior to you "2017 nailed it version" Edit* Edited July 11, 2018 by shootingstar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 4 hours ago, fanfzero said: TIL sounded beautiful for me in Madrid 2017, but it was crap in Madrid 2018, Axl almost did not use rasp in the song and he struggled to reach the high notes, while in 2017 he nailed it And I have to just make another point.. no, he does not "struggle. It's when he has to struggle his rasp comes forward. That's why he always use more rasp 9,5/10 times at the 2nd half of the last don't cry chorus, or 9,5/10 times at the 2nd half of the chorus on civil war since those song was reintroduced. When he comes out of breath his more demanding but polished and clean vocal style can't do it, so he goes into 90's mode to manage it. Like 184 out of the last 192 times these songs were played live or something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sl4yer Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 And to guy who said WTTJ from 2017 is killing 2018 one It's not much difference just 2017 has more rasp, and no in every show. For example, compare Apollo to this WTTJ from Poland. If it's not the same 2018 win for me. And on Polish GnR forum all the people who was at Gdansk and Chorzow says Axl in Chorzow was better or slightly better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Boy Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 On 7/10/2018 at 1:06 PM, Jordan Rose said: I would have voted for Trump if I was American You'll have to renounce your GnR fan status now lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) On 7/9/2018 at 6:23 PM, Jw224 said: Yeah, I feel like some people are legit just convincing themselves that he sounds good. Definitely the worst vocally he's possibly every been. You aren't the first person to go "people who think he sounds good are in denial and are convincing themselves of ___" here, but honestly I do disagree! In the sense that I have not really seen a person say he sounds better or on par with 2016, or saying he sounds better than ever. And I haven't have seen denies that he is struggling at times, however I can easily see people honestly still digging the way he sings overall - especially the second half of the shows this year. I think so, and I still would happily pay money to see this current version of GNR. That isn't me convincing myself of anything though, that is just how I feel I just feel when we get into the "people are just forcing themselves to hear something" argument, it gets into some murky waters logically speaking. Edited July 12, 2018 by WhazUp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 if Axl just sang Madagascar like he use to there aren’t many high notes he’d have to reach. He’s kinda everywhere with his vocals currently, it would seem easier to just sing it like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real McCoy Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Axl, for the most part, sounds pretty good to me. Want something to complain about and cringe over? Watch Bon Jovi’s embarrassing performance from their rock and roll hall of fame induction. THIS is bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jw224 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 I really don't get comparing Axl to other artists and saying "See he's still good compared to these guys". It doesn't really take away from the fact he doesn't sound good. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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