Blackstar Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) There is a radio interview from 1991 where Axl said that they had about 56 songs and they picked 30 for the UYI albums. But then he added that they picked the best ideas or something like that, so maybe there were sketches/ideas (something similar to the New Work Tune or The Plague from the AFD sessions) and not complete songs, plus West Arkeen songs (Just Another Sunday, Crash Diet etc.) and Ain't Going Down that didn't make the albums. On the other hand, Slash has said that they had emptied the vault. A UYI box set could be extended to the post UYI era until 1996. Probably there are mostly sketches there, but still that would make it a big thing. Edited July 9, 2018 by Blackstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) I think marc said there wasn't much material left in the vault from the old era. pretty sure he said something like that. the good stuff is already released on afd lies and uyi. Edited July 9, 2018 by Rovim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Blackstar said: There is a radio interview from 1991 where Axl said that they had about 56 songs and they picked 30 for the UYI albums. But then he added that they picked the best ideas or something like that, so maybe there were sketches/ideas (something similar to the New Work Tune or The Plague from the AFD sessions) and not complete songs, plus West Arkeen songs (Ain't Going Down, Just Another Sunday, Crash Diet) that didn't make it on the albums. On the other hand, Slash has said that they had emptied the vault. A UYI box set could be extended to the post UYI era until 1996. Probably there are mostly sketches there, but still that would make it a big thing. Yep damn straight. I seem to remember interviews with duff where he said the double albums was them cleaning the slate so to speak. But 94 and 96 are the gems i really want to know about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crlk Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 4 hours ago, Blackstar said: There is a radio interview from 1991 where Axl said that they had about 56 songs and they picked 30 for the UYI albums. But then he added that they picked the best ideas or something like that, so maybe there were sketches/ideas (something similar to the New Work Tune or The Plague from the AFD sessions) and not complete songs, plus West Arkeen songs (Ain't Going Down, Just Another Sunday, Crash Diet) that didn't make it on the albums. On the other hand, Slash has said that they had emptied the vault. A UYI box set could be extended to the post UYI era until 1996. Probably there are mostly sketches there, but still that would make it a big thing. Don’t forget that Spaguetti was recorded during the same UYI sessions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 15 minutes ago, crlk said: Don’t forget that Spaguetti was recorded during the same UYI sessions yes, a few more covers were definitely recorded. but... who cares about covers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Its Tino Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 My dream is to hear is the UYI version Slash said he h had without all the synths that he mentioned in his book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 15 hours ago, crlk said: Don’t forget that Spaguetti was recorded during the same UYI sessions Ah no, TSI was recorded in various studios during the illusions tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 18 minutes ago, Sydney Fan said: Ah no, TSI was recorded in various studios during the illusions tour 6 of the songs were recorded during the UYI sessions and the rest during or after the tour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fashionista Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 11 hours ago, Its Tino said: My dream is to hear is the UYI version Slash said he h had without all the synths that he mentioned in his book. Axl Advanced Copy bootleg has them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertrice Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I have the unwanted illusions cd somewhere. gonna need more than that for a box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 42 minutes ago, Bertrice said: I have the unwanted illusions cd somewhere. gonna need more than that for a box but those are not UYI demos at all. probably only Yesterdays counts, sort of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crlk Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 8 hours ago, Sydney Fan said: Ah no, TSI was recorded in various studios during the illusions tour Agree, but we have instrumentals tracks from UYI and TSI recorded in the same DATs, so it means that they started recording TSI songs in the same UYI sessions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 19 hours ago, crlk said: Agree, but we have instrumentals tracks from UYI and TSI recorded in the same DATs, so it means that they started recording TSI songs in the same UYI sessions Im sure i read on these forums that after the illusions tour slash wanted to do a club/theatre tour and do a short tour of these songs. Pity that never happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, Sydney Fan said: Im sure i read on these forums that after the illusions tour slash wanted to do a club/theatre tour and do a short tour of these songs. Pity that never happened. there were also some wild rumors about a secret GNR show in Miami that supposedly happened in early 1994. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jw224 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 I'll probably get some flak here for this but I haven't really listened to Coma that much as I wasn't into it but I just listened to it again after a long time and I loved it. The lyrics and music are top notch. People say that November Rain is their masterpiece but I think Coma is also a strong contender. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninjapie24 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jw224 said: I'll probably get some flak here for this but I haven't really listened to Coma that much as I wasn't into it but I just listened to it again after a long time and I loved it. The lyrics and music are top notch. People say that November Rain is their masterpiece but I think Coma is also a strong contender. When I first got into GNR I hated Coma. It was too long, and just went everywhere. After I got into Metallica and Led Zeppelin, I stared to like longer songs. I have it a shot again, and loved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Propaganda Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 On 09/07/2018 at 5:48 PM, Its Tino said: My dream is to hear is the UYI version Slash said he h had without all the synths that he mentioned in his book. Tino? Early Mornin' stoned pimp's Tino? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Its Tino Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 7 hours ago, Propaganda said: Tino? Early Mornin' stoned pimp's Tino? Nope, my dog Tino 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acor Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 I wonder why people are obsessed with those "boxes", "bonus material" etc... I mean, as someone once said- there's usually a good reason why that "unreleased stuff" wasn't released- it means it wasn't good enough... No way I'm gonna pay for overpriced version of what I already have. I understand if you're a collector, but otherwise- it makes no sense... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerInThisTown Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, acor said: I wonder why people are obsessed with those "boxes", "bonus material" etc... I mean, as someone once said- there's usually a good reason why that "unreleased stuff" wasn't released- it means it wasn't good enough... No way I'm gonna pay for overpriced version of what I already have. I understand if you're a collector, but otherwise- it makes no sense... That's what the band might have thought, that the material is not good enough for the album. But there's always the same chance you're gonna like a song or not whether it was on an album or a b side or unreleased. From my experience with MANY bands I find the bonus tracks to be largely satisfying (especially a band like Oasis who are famous for their B-Sides) and more than once I thought the best track on the album was just a bonus track. Bon Jovi are a band who said they don't even sort what makes the record by quality but what fits the album as a whole, and I think many bands go by that philosophy, GNR went with it too deciding on SCOM over NR or DC. It's mindboggling how wrong bands/labels can be sometimes deciding which songs make a record. And for stuff like demos, rough mixes etc. It's just interesting to hear early versions of songs. Not something I'd regularly listen to but cool to hear nontheless. Edited July 16, 2018 by StrangerInThisTown 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Am I the only person who finds ''Mates Rehearsal'' rather amusing in that Mates are a condom manufacturer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Propaganda Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 12 hours ago, Its Tino said: Nope, my dog Tino Oh... (mods sorry for the off topic, but I gotta explain this one) At 4:51: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 21 hours ago, Ninjapie24 said: When I first got into GNR I hated Coma. It was too long, and just went everywhere. After I got into Metallica and Led Zeppelin, I stared to like longer songs. I have it a shot again, and loved it. cuz all that goes with the whole UYI vibe. those songs are not your regular 3-4min radio hits. those are monsters that need totally different approach. compared to "classic" AFD era songs and some leftovers that ended up on the Illusions, these "brand new" songs like Coma, Locomotive, Breakdown, Estranged, Civil War, but also for example Don't Damn Me, are in fact "progressive". I know it seems stupid, especially to the fans of a real "progressive rock" bands, but in GNR context those are really outstanding 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl_morris Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) You just know they will release TWO boxset and spins them as a cheaper option so you can swap them with your friends. Edited July 16, 2018 by Axl_morris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvH Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Just give me the 24 multitrack master of Estranged and I will never #complain again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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