something.always Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 1 hour ago, UYI4 said: It’s not like Izzy’s solo career took off in any form. Maybe not but the dude has released 10 solo albums, 1 with the Ju-Ju Hounds and has released 2 records since Axl released CD. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UYI4 Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, something.always said: Maybe not but the dude has released 10 solo albums, 1 with the Ju-Ju Hounds and has released 2 records since Axl released CD. Oh he’s definitely been more productive. They all have with exception of Axl Grease. Axl has released the least yet recorded 60-70 songs supposedly over a 10+ year period. Per Finck when he left “dozens and dozens of songs.” Yet we’ve heard 17 completed songs of supposed dozens and had several albums from every other member. If people can’t see who/m the problem has been that’s a given. I guess it’s easier to ride your youth and have the Kartrashians wear your shirts. The issue with all of this is all of the press they used to do over the years has never come to fruition. They probably don’t like sharing information because it can cause people/fans to hold them accountable to what’s been said. The scapegoat going back into late 80’s is “management, label, some secret entity, or whatever the hell the exercise is from one moment to another.” I assume this probably leads to why they don’t do press now much or can’t say anything directly. Axl is at the damn game controller. There’s no other reasons. We’ve heard for years “oh it’s guns so you never know.” Well explain that in depth. What does that mean? Why does it take so long. Call people out! But they won’t. Why? $$$$$$$$ and jobs at stake. Business took over the music many years ago. Now it becomes we have to create something that doesn’t tarnished our already funked legacy. That’s probably the hesitation along with other obligations. If Duff and Slash can put out more then 1 record since 2016 and Guns N’ Roses puts out 2 subpar songs, it’s pretty telling. Edited July 7, 2023 by UYI4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumandraisin Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 1 hour ago, jacdaniel said: I really thought that Slash and Duff coming back would change things on the music front. Part of me believed that maybe the likes of the label were creating obstacles to try get a reunion or that Axl was just insecure. But now I think it's clear that it's just Axl and I'm not sure we'll ever fully understand why. It must be such a weird trip for someone as productive as Slash to be in Guns Not to sound all big headed or something like that before this post comes across that way but when the reunion was announced (or not announced) I thought "well that's set us back for new music again". I thought CD2 would be buried and any new music would take at least a decade. Ironically we've ended up getting a few CD2 songs. Genuinely the first thought I had was "there goes CD2". Now I think about it, even the reunion couldn't be announced properly. The vague press release was pretty much it without confirmation as to who was in the band, no interviews, no picture, no press conference, classic Guns management. Things were handled better pre reunion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post DTJ80 Posted July 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 7, 2023 As annoying and odd as all this is - doesn’t take away from the fact that something is clearly happening in the background. Stuff will be released…..it’s a matter of when and THATS frustrating. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General2112 Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Look I know about as much as the next guy but I’m gonna say Perhaps is debuting next Thursday at the Paris France show. Debut it there and drop it at midnight. If they don’t do it there it’s coming out once we get into the North America dates. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 I dunno man. This link removal stuff just screams “We’re a pack of dunces who simply can’t see anything through, so please take down the link to this…” 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, Nick85 said: I dunno man. This link removal stuff just screams “We’re a pack of dunces who simply can’t see anything through, so please take down the link to this…” I don’t know my opinion on this. On one hand and in one way or another you might be right. On the other hand- GNR has never taken down the dozens of Richard Fortus or Dizzy interviews where they say something may be soon. They didn’t take down Slash’s outright incorrect interviews where he said new music was on the way. I’m not gonna say it will release, because it’s GNR. But there is a ton of smoke right now. We have the random take downs, Perhaps being soundchecked and The General on setlists. We have Axl and Slash in the studio listening to mixes. But ultimately this band fails every single time to release anything. For any other band I’d say a new album or EP was imminent. For GNR I’d say maybe at best we’ll get 2 more songs by 2025. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Nono Pololo Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 2 hours ago, jacdaniel said: It must be such a weird trip for someone as productive as Slash to be in Guns Now try to imagine how Buckethead must have felt... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macho Vidal Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Does anyone have a screenshot of the Classic Rock Duff quote? I’d love to see an accurate translation of what he said and what preceded him saying it. Did Classic Rock take down their own article? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6lake sa66ath Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 1 hour ago, rumandraisin said: Things were handled better pre reunion. The band’s accountant vehemently disagrees. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 This bullshit will never end, fucking hell it's beyond lame. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, Macho Vidal said: Does anyone have a screenshot of the Classic Rock Duff quote? I’d love to see an accurate translation of what he said and what preceded him saying it. Did Classic Rock take down their own article? I have archived the article: https://archive.ph/dBEJF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 The translation of the quote was accurate. It's a simple sentence, doesn't leave much room for wrong translation. Unless, of course, Duff was misquoted by the German magazine or there was a mistake in the translation from English into German. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macho Vidal Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Und ließ dann am Ende des Gesprächs noch ganz nonchalant folgenden Satz fallen: „Es wird bald Neuigkeiten aus dem Hause Guns N’ Roses geben. Ich glaube sogar, noch in dieser Woche.“ Hoffentlich handelt es sich um neue Songs. Und hoffentlich singt Axl sie einfach in seiner normalen Singstimme. What does the above translate to in English? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjezzen Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 5 hours ago, Trin9498 said: Cmon. That’s absurd! Not in my Word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Macho Vidal said: Und ließ dann am Ende des Gesprächs noch ganz nonchalant folgenden Satz fallen: „Es wird bald Neuigkeiten aus dem Hause Guns N’ Roses geben. Ich glaube sogar, noch in dieser Woche.“ Hoffentlich handelt es sich um neue Songs. Und hoffentlich singt Axl sie einfach in seiner normalen Singstimme. What does the above translate to in English? Deepl returns this: And then, at the end of the conversation, he casually dropped the following sentence: "There will soon be news from Guns N' Roses. I think even this week." Hopefully these will be new songs. And hopefully Axl will just sing them in his normal singing voice. German speakers can confirm, but, like I said, it's a simple sentence (two sentences, to be accurate). Edited July 7, 2023 by Blackstar 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonizedmind Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 43 minutes ago, El Nono Pololo said: Now try to imagine how Buckethead must have felt... How many albums has the Bucket releases since CD dropped? Triple digits? 😆 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokingarthur Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, Blackstar said: The translation of the quote was accurate. It's a simple sentence, doesn't leave much room for wrong translation. Unless, of course, Duff was misquoted by the German magazine or there was a mistake in the translation from English into German. What he actually said was “the Bart, the”. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 1 hour ago, colonizedmind said: How many albums has the Bucket releases since CD dropped? Triple digits? 😆 Actually, yes he has. And that’s the saddest part… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 1 hour ago, smokingarthur said: What he actually said was “the Bart, the”. Bart Simpson? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Live Like a Suicide Posted July 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2023 20 hours ago, Stay.Of.Execution said: Interesting. The article has been deleted. It's not on the page anymore https://classicrock.net/guns-n-roses-frankfurt-deutsche-bank-park-03-07/&ved=2ahUKEwiXu6zP7vv_AhUT7rsIHaWEAgkQFnoECBIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3pGIOWCPycBULgKEpYH47- Guns N' Roses has the worst PR team ever. Why let your band talk to the media and agree to photographs with studios if you're just going to be overzealous about what is published? It looks amateurish... in fact, I reckon an amateur media relations officer could do a better job. As for the article, it makes little sense to remove the entire thing rather than deleting the one part about Duff's comment and writing an edit note at the bottom of the article indicating what was changed. Unless GNR requested its entire deletion, I don't see why that wasn't done. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post diablo9333 Posted July 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Live Like a Suicide said: Guns N' Roses has the worst PR team ever. Why let your band talk to the media and agree to photographs with studios if you're just going to be overzealous about what is published? It looks amateurish... in fact, I reckon an amateur media relations officer could do a better job. As for the article, it makes little sense to remove the entire thing rather than deleting the one part about Duff's comment and writing an edit note at the bottom of the article indicating what was changed. Unless GNR requested its entire deletion, I don't see why that wasn't done. I think someone forgot to give them the memo that we aren't in Axl's wilderness years anymore. That strategy might have worked when Axl didn't want the publicity, but now you have a legendary band playing stadiums, that actually needs to promote things. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chester 524 Posted July 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2023 (edited) regarding the bands PR, I've got to wonder how their "approach" effects employee (specifically Slash and Duffs) morale. I would have to imagine that working for a company where they make you keep quiet must make one feel pretty crappy about themselves- as in founding members arent trusted/ respected/ valued enough to answer questions from GNRs fanbase directly. Especially when Slash is his own brand and could certainly use GNRs platform to promote his own stuff. idk, maybe I'm too sensitive but I've just never liked working for an employer where I was mandated on what I can and can't say. but then again I've never gotten one of their paychecks either. Edited July 8, 2023 by Chester 524 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UYI4 Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, diablo9333 said: I think someone forgot to give them the memo that we aren't in Axl's wilderness years anymore. That strategy might have worked when Axl didn't want the publicity, but now you have a legendary band playing stadiums, that actually needs to promote things. And the stadiums aren’t even selling out and have a lot of vacant seats 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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