avahland Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, allwaystired said: Tomorrow would be a good day for people to leak any stuff they have. Please! Today... Tomorrow never comes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodOlJohnnyK Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 (edited) It’s the oddest thing. I don’t even *like* Perhaps. I’ve been very vocal about that. Yet I realllly want it to be released tomorrow. Edited August 10, 2023 by GoodOlJohnnyK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, AxlRoseCDII said: Any “leakers” and “insiders” are currently drinking champagne and laughing at all of us. Kind of just like TB. Nah.... Any “leakers” and “insiders” are currently drinking Monster energy drinks and laughing at all of us from their parent's basements. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Riggs Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 16 minutes ago, allwaystired said: All of that is true.....but it's also true that they never officially said "Perhaps is coming on X date". It's utterly frustrating and baffling of course, but as regards the exact date- that disappointment is a little on us. We should know better. Nope. F Axl and his enablers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real McCoy Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Voodoochild said: The video wasn't posted. The source code of that page still shows this line that indicates it was some kind of testing: <title>Campaign Preview</title> NOTHING gets posted to that page without approval from two or three parties. Period. Stop making excuses for this band. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, allwaystired said: Nah.... Any “leakers” and “insiders” are currently drinking Monster energy drinks and laughing at all of us from their parent's basements. Kind of just like TB as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Uncle Bob Posted August 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, GoodOlJohnnyK said: It’s the oddest thing. I don’t even *like* Perhaps. I’ve been very vocal about that. Yet I realllly want it to be released tomorrow. You just want to feel happy about the band. You want them to be normal, to have casual people talking about them, to be proud of them. You want Axl to put his art out for the world to listen, even if it's crap. At least that's what I want 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, Martin Riggs said: Nope. F Axl and his enablers. It's ok, you can say 'fuck'. We're all adults here. F'N would be perfect though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hidin´Stradlin Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 It will be released tomorrow after they play it live. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillConnor_1982 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, Rovim said: and that was Tom making a mistake or misremembering, not him trying to change the narrative. I guess he also made a mistake when he said this stuff sounds like Appetite for Destruction. I definitely see the similarities between Perhaps and Out Ta Get Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, The Real McCoy said: NOTHING gets posted to that page without approval from two or three parties. Period. Stop making excuses for this band. It's not excuse, it's fact. The page wasn't POSTED. It got leaked. And it didn't get post probably because the band didn't approve it, for whatever reason. Edited August 10, 2023 by Voodoochild 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronartest2004 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 I’ve always thought that new music was one of the last few things Axl has felt like he’s had true control over. I honestly don’t think any of the gunners or TB is behind any delays, it’s all Axl at the end of the day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonizedmind Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 14 minutes ago, GoodOlJohnnyK said: It’s the oddest thing. I don’t even *like* Perhaps. I’ve been very vocal about that. Yet I realllly want it to be released tomorrow. Because then you're closer to the next song which you may like?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Real McCoy Posted August 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2023 (edited) Some folks need to use some critical thinking here: That Linkfire page wouldn’t be activated, nor would anything be posted to it, much less a fully produced video, unless the band, label, and management were ALL on the same page regarding a promotional strategy. You remove one of those three from the equation, and the page stays dormant with nothing being posted to it: test code or otherwise. SOME kind of promotional campaign was in place, but either “someone” got cold feet at the last minute, or they got pissed off that we found the page early and pulled the release to try to spite us. Anyone trying to deny that is just lying to themselves. Edited August 10, 2023 by The Real McCoy 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonizedmind Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 What if all this years optimism ends in one massive fuckyou goose chase? 2 minutes ago, The Real McCoy said: Some folks need to use some critical thinking here: That Linkfire page wouldn’t be activated, nor would anything be posted to it, much less a fully produced video unless the band, label, and management were ALL on the same page regarding a promotional strategy. You remove one of those three from the equation, and the page stays dormant with nothing being posted to it: test code or otherwise. SOME kind of promotional campaign was in place, but either “someone” got cold feet at the last minute, or they got pissed off that we found the page early and pulled the release to try to spite us. Anyone trying to deny that is just lying to themselves. So we've shot ourselves in the feet and we get punished....great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real McCoy Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Voodoochild said: It's not excuse, it's fact. The page wasn't POSTED. It got leaked. And it didn't get post probably because the band didn't approve it, for whatever reason. No. It’s not. You can send a mock-up of the page to the band and management. You can post it on a private page on Universal’s servers - you don’t need to activate it on a live page if you don’t want to. SOME sort of release plan was put in place. Something happened that canceled that. If you want to fall on the sword for the band, that’s your right to do so. The rest of us gave up that fight a long time ago and for good reason. Edited August 10, 2023 by The Real McCoy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Just now, colonizedmind said: What if all this years optimism ends in one massive fuckyou goose chase? I honestly think that is the case- and I got to that opinion half way through the Europe tour. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, BillConnor_1982 said: I guess he also made a mistake when he said this stuff sounds like Appetite for Destruction. I definitely see the similarities between Perhaps and Out Ta Get Me cause he was definitely talking about Perhaps when he said the material sounded like AFD? what is your point here, that he lied? if so, I don't think he has any reason to. It's not like even if a changing of the narrative was something Gn'R was actually doing, that they would turn to Tom Mayhue to do that. sometimes people just describe shit as they see (or hear) it and mix up things. I think you're jumping to conclusions. Edited August 10, 2023 by Rovim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--DEA-- Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Will we get Perhaps tomorrow or not?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Like a Suicide Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Voodoochild said: It's not excuse, it's fact. The page wasn't POSTED. It got leaked. And it didn't get post probably because the band didn't approve it, for whatever reason. What @The Real McCoy is saying is that the marketers would not redirect the Perhaps Linkfire URL to the Perhaps promotion page detailing a release date without permission. This is most likely true, but for whatever reason, the marketing department thought it would be a good idea to redirect a live link to a draft page instead of a final page. This was obviously a big mistake on their part as they weren't expecting people to find it so quickly (which is something they should have anticipated as a possibility given that Hard Skool was found similarly early). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Just now, --DEA-- said: Will we get Perhaps tomorrow or not?? Your guess is as good as anyone's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Like a Suicide Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, --DEA-- said: Will we get Perhaps tomorrow or not?? Perhaps... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real McCoy Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Live Like a Suicide said: Perhaps... Hey hey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCudder Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Just listen to the leak. Nothing is going to change from that version. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real McCoy Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Live Like a Suicide said: What @The Real McCoy is saying is that the marketers would not redirect the Perhaps Linkfire URL to the Perhaps promotion page detailing a release date without permission. This is most likely true, but for whatever reason, the marketing department thought it would be a good idea to redirect a live link to a draft page instead of a final page. This was obviously a big mistake on their part as they weren't expecting people to find it so quickly (which is something they should have anticipated as a possibility given that Hard Skool was found similarly early). As someone that has worked in marketing and promotion on the radio side over the years: everything is internal until you want it to be released. It’s marketing 101. Someone authorized that link fire page to go live. That was NOT an accident. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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