Sweersa Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 6 minutes ago, bmus1 said: The General and Monsters will probably be next to each other sequentially if we ever get a release with all of these songs on it. That's as far as their connection goes. If they do a compilation album of all the singles, or whatever I hope they at least remaster them to sound better next to one another. So far Perhaps seems to be the only one suitably mixed for an album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakDown2014 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 14 minutes ago, Sweersa said: If they do a compilation album of all the singles, or whatever I hope they at least remaster them to sound better next to one another. So far Perhaps seems to be the only one suitably mixed for an album. Imo Absurd sounds a lot better than Perhaps, being the only track without clipping issues along with Hardskool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmus1 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Sweersa said: If they do a compilation album of all the singles, or whatever I hope they at least remaster them to sound better next to one another. So far Perhaps seems to be the only one suitably mixed for an album. Agreed. Perhaps was mixed by Joe Barresi, but everything else was mixed by Caram and it does the music no favors. I like to think they had Barresi do remixes of the other singles (HS/Absurd/TG) that they haven't released yet. That being said I don't think Perhaps is great by any means, but I 100% agree that it's the only one that sounds like an album mix. The other singles sound like reference mixes that were mastered to brickwalled standards. Edited January 22 by bmus1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NachoLZ Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I understand the flat and without dynamics mixing of Hard Skool and The General (vinyl sounds great tho), but for the life of me, can't hear the clipping if someone can point out exactly what should I listen of focus to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, NachoLZ said: I understand the flat and without dynamics mixing of Hard Skool and The General (vinyl sounds great tho), but for the life of me, can't hear the clipping if someone can point out exactly what should I listen of focus to Same here. I am such a novice in these matters but clearly feel the mixing could be a lot better in general, to make it sound more dynamic and punchy, more cohesive. But the clipping fortunately keeps on escaping me. May it last 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmus1 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 4 minutes ago, NachoLZ said: I understand the flat and without dynamics mixing of Hard Skool and The General (vinyl sounds great tho), but for the life of me, can't hear the clipping if someone can point out exactly what should I listen of focus to Hard Skool might be the least distorted out of the singles, it's just doesn't have any life to it between the thin guitars and overcompressed/possibly programmed drums. The General clips on over half of the kick drum hits in the choruses and outro, but if you can ignore that doesn't get too bad otherwise. The kick drum clipping is really bad though. Perhaps clips out a lot, probably more "traditional" loudness war clipping than any of the other singles. But just feels more finished as a mix so I still prefer it even with that. You can hear it a lot during any tom fills like at 1:51 and 1:59; if you listen with headphones, everything gets saturated for a second when the drum fills happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelsecrets Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, bmus1 said: Agreed. Perhaps was mixed by Joe Barresi, but everything else was mixed by Caram and it does the music no favors. I like to think they had Barresi do remixes of the other singles (HS/Absurd/TG) that they haven't released yet. That being said I don't think Perhaps is great by any means, but I 100% agree that it's the only one that sounds like an album mix. The other singles sound like reference mixes that were mastered to brickwalled standards. Everyone on this site needs to get a life! <3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmus1 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, angelsecrets said: Everyone on this site needs to get a life! <3 Maaan it's not like I'm hyperanalyzing these songs 100 times over lol. I mix music and audio for a living. I just hear this shit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 hours ago, BreakDown2014 said: Imo Absurd sounds a lot better than Perhaps, being the only track without clipping issues along with Hardskool I didn't notice any clipping in Perhaps. I would be surprised if Bob Ludwig would tolerate such a shit mix with clipping before he masters it, but I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Voodoochild Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, angelsecrets said: Everyone on this site needs to get a life! <3 Nah, life is boring and everything hurts. I prefer new music. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appetitefordiscussion Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Anyone else enjoy The General more than Monsters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 5 minutes ago, Appetitefordiscussion said: Anyone else enjoy The General more than Monsters? It's a close race for me but Monsters win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNfr Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 3 hours ago, Appetitefordiscussion said: Anyone else enjoy The General more than Monsters? me since day one, It's probably well documented on this forum. it's deeper and hits you in the gut, that's why. but Monsters will be a great song too, the quality of the recent stuff amazed me, compares to some songs on Chinese, which have not aged very well. I'm still confused about the CD tracking list, I probably would have made different choices. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucketmaster101 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 3 hours ago, Appetitefordiscussion said: Anyone else enjoy The General more than Monsters? I think I've always enjoyed it more. I don't think that either song is particularly great. I prefer the chorus of The General and the overall vibe, but I think the verses of Monsters are slightly better than The General. To be honest, it's been a while since I listened to either, but on balance, I remember enjoying The General more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 In my opinion The General has the better chorus and this damn hot outro solo, even if it‘s too short. Monsters has better verses and this freaking awesome bridge, the best I’ve heard Axl in a very long time. A nice outro solo as well. I think Monsters is the better song overall but The General includes Slash’s best reunion solo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner927 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I'm sure it's probably just me, but the more I've listened to Monsters, the more I keep hearing parralels to Bring It Back Home instrumentally. Logically I know the song was written by nuGuns, and they likely weren't drawing inspiration from old, unreleased classic Guns demos; but I can't help but hear how similar of a groove it has to me. Then again, who's to say how the song sounded prior to Slash & Duff re-recording it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siraddam Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 https://ultimateclassicrock.com/guns-n-roses-songs-ranked/ The General at number 83 of 84! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 5 hours ago, Appetitefordiscussion said: Anyone else enjoy The General more than Monsters? Me. But I've barely listened to Monsters. Whenever I hear The General or even just think of the song, it's stuck in my head. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Free Bird said: In my opinion The General has the better chorus and this damn hot outro solo, even if it‘s too short. Monsters has better verses and this freaking awesome bridge, the best I’ve heard Axl in a very long time. A nice outro solo as well. I think Monsters is the better song overall but The General includes Slash’s best reunion solo. I agree. Overall I like Monsters a lot more over The General. Aside from poor production on both songs (especially The General), my main gripe with Monsters (aside from it not being a CD-era mix with Buckethead, of course) is the chorus seems to occur too quickly in the song. In other words, I wish the verses were a little longer. It almost feels rushed. But, that's me being nitpicky and probably comes from me expecting Soul Monster was a longer song that it actually was. I wonder if they have any longer songs (~6 minutes or longer) left in the can. Like the Sorry, Prostitute or There Was A Time of CD2 from a song length standpoint. Most, if not all the CD2 stuff we got (leaked or released) with vocals are around 4 minutes. Edited January 23 by Sweersa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 minutes ago, Sweersa said: I agree. Overall I like Monsters a lot more over The General. Aside from poor production on both songs (especially The General), my main gripe with Monsters (aside from it not being a CD-era mix with Buckethead, of course) is the chorus seems to occur too quickly in the song. In other words, I wish the verses were a little longer. It almost feels rushed. But, that's me being nitpicky and probably comes from me expecting Soul Monster was a longer song that it actually was. I wonder if they have any longer songs (~6 minutes or longer) left in the can. Like the Sorry, Prostitute or There Was A Time of CD2 from a song length standpoint. Most, if not all the CD2 stuff we got (leaked or released) with vocals are around 4 minutes. Elvis is nearly 6 minutes. Dummy is over 6 minutes but that seems more like an outline/idea than a song. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindmelon Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, siraddam said: https://ultimateclassicrock.com/guns-n-roses-songs-ranked/ The General at number 83 of 84! They compare the song to If The World which I find bizarre. Some real inaccuracies in there, they claim Down On The Farm was only played live once. They use fan artwork for Shacklers Revenge. They get the timeline on Blind Melon existing wrong lol & probably more Edited January 23 by Rindmelon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumandraisin Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 35 minutes ago, Sweersa said: I agree. Overall I like Monsters a lot more over The General. Aside from poor production on both songs (especially The General), my main gripe with Monsters (aside from it not being a CD-era mix with Buckethead, of course) is the chorus seems to occur too quickly in the song. In other words, I wish the verses were a little longer. It almost feels rushed. But, that's me being nitpicky and probably comes from me expecting Soul Monster was a longer song that it actually was. I wonder if they have any longer songs (~6 minutes or longer) left in the can. Like the Sorry, Prostitute or There Was A Time of CD2 from a song length standpoint. Most, if not all the CD2 stuff we got (leaked or released) with vocals are around 4 minutes. Some songs started shorter however. CD had the pointless intro and the guitar intro lengthened and of course Buckets solo added. IRS had the second solo, TWAT was stretched with Buckets solo. Riad had the intro added. It's hard to guess as we've got so little to go on. Seven or Thyme might've been epics, but then might have been reworked back into 4 minute tracks. The General might have been longer at one point. Who knows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumandraisin Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 6 hours ago, Appetitefordiscussion said: Anyone else enjoy The General more than Monsters? Absolutely. It's everything I thought it would be, aside from an intro with those sinister strings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonizedmind Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 20 hours ago, DeNfr said: Even the dude in the row ahead is like..."Maaaaaaaaaaaaaan" ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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