cooker Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 13 hours ago, IncitingChaos said: Sterns interviews over the last 5 years have been some of the best out there. His ability to get people to talk about anything and everything is what makes him who he is. He's brilliant, go watch Slash's last interview with Stern...the entire ending is talking about Axl and why they should get the band back together...60% of the show was about Guns N Roses and Slash had just released his latest album. Nobody else was getting to talk to Slash about Axl and even if they did Slash wasn't open to talking about much, but Stern gets more out of his interviews Wasn't Slash very pissed off about that interview? I remember him going on Opie and Anthony shortly after and not sounding his happiest about that interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotsfired cro Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 GREAT! Now this is a chance for a reunion, maybe we get to see the fan favorites DJ Ashba, Pittman, Buckethead, Paul whatever join the likes of Melissa, Ferrer, Fartus and Dizzy Reed, where they can totally eject UYI material and play for 1001 time SCOM, Rocket Queen, Mr. Brownstone, It's so easy, Nightrain and all the other AFD classics they never failed to play in the last 30 years! Fuck Pretty tied up, Locomotive, Breakdown, Dead Horse, Back off, Right next door and all the other tunes they never play anyway. Maybe if they play at least 12 coves for the encore, that would be a dream come true! Yes, 2017 - a year full of surprises!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 This band is hilarious. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian girl Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 this show confuses me.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie82 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Was this posted? It's a different announcement: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/guns-n-roses-to-celebrate-siriusxm-channel-with-nyc-show-w488987 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold top 78 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I've no problems with the current lineup but if Izzy and Adler aren't going to be at this show then they shouldn't bother doing it. This should be a night where this forum explodes with excitement of trying to watch the real GNR but I've a feeling it's going to turn into another "big announcement " thread full of pissed off fans when it ends up Fortus and Frank on stage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjacker Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 12 minutes ago, Marie82 said: Was this posted? It's a different announcement: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/guns-n-roses-to-celebrate-siriusxm-channel-with-nyc-show-w488987 Different? That's just an article written about the announcement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie82 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Just now, Blackjacker said: Different? That's just an article written about the announcement. Yesterday's was a bit of a mess. This one looks like the purpose of the show is to celebrate the Sirius channel. That's what I meant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KURT19 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 13 minutes ago, Marie82 said: Yesterday's was a bit of a mess. This one looks like the purpose of the show is to celebrate the Sirius channel. That's what I meant. OF COURSE that is what this show is for. Unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuriousStyles Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Can't wait for the 50th Anniversary of Appetite when they hold a concert for the 36th Anniversary of Richard Fortus joining the band! Axl: It's been 50 years since we wrote Appetite!!!! Ladies and Gentlemen..... Mr. Richard "I never even owned the album" Fortus!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Marie82 said: Yesterday's was a bit of a mess. This one looks like the purpose of the show is to celebrate the Sirius channel. That's what I meant. Yes, the article no talk AFD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanfzero Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I can imagine Mc Bob saying "New York!! You wanted Slash, well, he couldn't make it, so here is what you got, from Monticello, Indiana... DEE JAY ASHBAAA" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Black Sabbath Posted June 22, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2017 Can you guys at least wait for the show to happen before you start bitching? 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnfnr2k Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 8 hours ago, Zurimor said: Full On rasp which ruined his voice in the first place, sure. It Is a good thing Axl became a bit wiser. And from all people tell which were at the concerts he doesncC sound Mickey live, so everything is fine. The concerts are for the people which attend the shows not those watching subpar streams. Keep making excuses. Axl went full on rasp for the whole AC DC tour and he was fine. And people are in denial that claim Axl does not sound Mickey live at the shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patiencepatience Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 15 hours ago, gnfnr2k said: All his GNR performances are shit. GNR fans think his voice sounds great on black on sun for example when its a disaster. Axl goes on full on mickey for GNR which is pitiful. And people love to use the bullshit excuse that AC DC songs are easier to sing. Axl could easily go full on rasp for SCOM like he used toin the 90s but he choices to do Mickey. So much hate. Yes different but a disaster? Grow up ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnfnr2k Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 19 minutes ago, ramsey said: So much hate. Yes different but a disaster? Grow up ? Take off your Axl Rose colored glasses. Black hole sun is cringe worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 10 hours ago, AlexC said: That statement in no way detracts from my opinion of his overall ability whatsoever. Sure it does lol, I think you are confusing potential with actual performance. 9 hours ago, Silent Jay said: that ain't funny It wasn't meant to be, it's called a FACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Black Sabbath said: Can you guys at least wait for the show to happen before you start bitching? DaFuq? Why would we do that? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Jay Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 minute ago, tsinindy said: It wasn't meant to be, it's called a FACT. Well your 'fact' is based on nonsense 'cause you didn't read my comment well. Izzy is primarily a songwriter than a guitarist, that was his biggest contribution to the band. Nothing to do with drums and whatnot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 22 minutes ago, Silent Jay said: Well your 'fact' is based on nonsense 'cause you didn't read my comment well. Izzy is primarily a songwriter than a guitarist, that was his biggest contribution to the band. Nothing to do with drums and whatnot. Whatever Jay, you didn't say that. You said he started as a songwriter, you're wrong get over it. Bye now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Jay Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, tsinindy said: Whatever Jay, you didn't say that. You said he started as a songwriter, you're wrong get over it. Bye now. Well no, you seem to have misinterpreted my comment. Bear in mind that english isn't my first language. I said first as I could have said primarily. But whatever dude, you seem pissed off for aboslutely nothing anyway. Plus saying he started as a songwriter without playing an instrument is quite absurd, sorry. Edited June 22, 2017 by Silent Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cqleonardo Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 one thing that makes me happy is that this show is gonna be streamed, right? I think it its and if rly is, Howard's production is gonna mix it and this team is amazing, they always make the bands sound good as fuck, you can hear every single thing happening, is beautiful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post beautifulanddamned Posted June 22, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2017 This is the perfect show and time to have Izzy on board. This isn't like negotiations at the beginning of NITL. Axl, Slash and Duff can afford to be generous at this point. The tour is wildly profitable, they are secure in their millions and millions of dollars. They can be secure in the fact that the masses don't care about the line-up or whether Izzy is there or not. Rumor is they offered Izzy $40,000 for the four shows last April. They can offer him $250,000 or $500,000 for this one show and look like fucking heroes. Plus it will patch up old friendships and toss a bone to the diehards before this all ends. That money is a drop in the bucket to them at this point. From Izzy's standpoint he has less leverage then when this all started, everything has run smoothly and been very profitable without him. If he wants to make any loot off this thing now's the time to do it. Plus a one-off show in a smaller, more controlled venue where he makes a lot of money seems right up his alley. Adler will do it for scraps. They could go on late like they did at the Troubador, do an AFD mix with the AFD5 at midnight to ring in the anniversary and film it for release. So easy. For any other band. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 2 hours ago, beautifulanddamned said: This is the perfect show and time to have Izzy on board. This isn't like negotiations at the beginning of NITL. Axl, Slash and Duff can afford to be generous at this point. The tour is wildly profitable, they are secure in their millions and millions of dollars. They can be secure in the fact that the masses don't care about the line-up or whether Izzy is there or not. Rumor is they offered Izzy $40,000 for the four shows last April. They can offer him $250,000 or $500,000 for this one show and look like fucking heroes. Plus it will patch up old friendships and toss a bone to the diehards before this all ends. That money is a drop in the bucket to them at this point. From Izzy's standpoint he has less leverage then when this all started, everything has run smoothly and been very profitable without him. If he wants to make any loot off this thing now's the time to do it. Plus a one-off show in a smaller, more controlled venue where he makes a lot of money seems right up his alley. Adler will do it for scraps. They could go on late like they did at the Troubador, do an AFD mix with the AFD5 at midnight to ring in the anniversary and film it for release. So easy. For any other band. Whatever avenue it takes to get there, I hope he is in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RONIN Posted June 23, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2017 17 hours ago, JustanUrchin said: As anticipation grows about the possibilities next month because, well, because AFD is the #1 debut selling of ALL-TIME and because it remains one of the most ICONIC rock albums ever, the handful of remaining Axl apologists relentlessly peddle myth in this and other threads. It seems high time to PIN basic legal fact to the D&N section in a simple, succinct list format to quash the incessant propaganda of the few. The Axl apologist training course, in summation: Step 1, chant the following about the two decades of Axl’s solo band: Grammies don’t mean shit. Album sales don’t mean shit. YT views don’t mean shit. Fifteen original songs in 26 years, the collection of 14 which crawled onto Wikipedia’s short-list of worst all-time albums, doesn’t mean shit. Axl playing AFD-UYI covers at backyard bbq’s and bowling alleys with a busload of revolving-door cover "artists" doesn’t mean shit. Step 2, conflate Axl urinal-sniffing with legal fact: Urinal-sniffing 1: Axl’s 15 original songs in 26 years “is Gn’R.” Legal fact 1: Axl withdrew from the Gn’R General Partnership on NYE ’95 after providing legal notice the summer prior. Two biz entities d/b/a Gn’R existed after that date. One, which is Original Gn’R as referred (correctly) to in legal pleadings, and the other, which is Axl’s Gn’R as referred (correctly) to in legal pleadings. Slash and Duff, as Remaining Partners, were Original Gn’R after said date and, as such, thereafter controlled Original Gn’R p’ship assets—AFD through UYI—licensing, merchandising, etc. Axl, as principal, controlled Axl’s Gn’R post-NYE 1995, and thereafter whatever he released into the marketplace that was a product of his solo band. Urinal-sniffing 2: Axl’s 15 original songs in 26 years “is Gn’R because that’s the mark on the album cover.” Legal fact 2: S/D/A executed a MOU in ‘92, which included an amendment that Axl would retain the exclusive right to the mark “Guns n’ Roses” if he withdrew from the p’ship. Axl could, legally then, use the mark Gn’R for any venture thereafter—be it a pastry sole proprietorship or an incorporated cattle ranch or anything in between. Slash and Duff, legally then, could not use the mark Gn’R under which to perform if Axl withdrew or was terminated. Three years to the day of the executed MOU, Axl provided legal notice that he was withdrawing from Original Gn’R and, given that he would retain exclusive right to the use of the mark, he gave Slash and Duff notice that he, Axl, intended to use the mark “in connection with a new group that I will form.” Urinal-sniffing 3: S/DM/IS/SA/AR are “not original Gn’R.” Legal fact 3: The o-r-i-g-i-n-a-l Gn’R is the five individuals who signed a recording contract with Geffen, formed a General Partnership, registered said p’ship with the Cali DoS, and registered the marks and (copy) rights. Said o-r-i-g-i-n-a-l legal partners recorded and toured the #1 debut selling album of ALL-TIME. No other natural person can claim (for pecuniary gain) to be original unless he or she cares to reply to a cease-and-desist letter and defend against subsequent injunctive relief and damages litigation. There can be no revisionism of original Gn’R. It is legal fact. Unrelated urinal-sniffing (but propagandized by Axl revisionists to appear related): references to a post-NYD ’96 RECORDING agreement further corroborates the above legal fact while conflating basic legal principles. Axl, with brand name in tow, formed Axl’s Gn’R in ’96 and, in May ’98, both Slash and Duff executed amendments to the ’92 RECORDING agreement to prevent Axl from drawing from their royalty (not capital) accounts to finance his solo band’s ‘recording,’ said solo recording which ultimately was released a decade later. While in control of Original Gn’R, S/D became leaving MEMBERS of the RECORDING agreement while Axl was a terminated PARTNER of Original Gn’R. Based upon averments that were not specifically denied and thus deemed admitted, it is indisputable that Axl quit Original Gn’R for control: the control of the mark, and employer control of any natural person in his post-NYD ’96 solo band. History shows what Axl did with control of the mark “Guns n’ Roses,” and, ultimately, capitulating after two decades to Original Gn’R Remaining Partners Slash and Duff to license, synch and merchandise Original Gn’R. Forgetting the killing S/D/A are raking on merchandising and licensing for NASCAR and the like, ticketing alone has grossed more than a quarter of a billion dollars, Axl capitulated legally (and he capitulated in the practical sense—he admitted in the D/A south of America interview last fall that he requested Slash’s number). Not in This Lifetime. Indeed. Did Axl capitulate to remaining Original Gn’R partners Slash and Duff for you, the Axl apologist? For the joy of performing 30 year-old songs that were the subject of voluminous litigation with Slash and Duff? For the burning desire to create new music with Slash and Duff and to release it to you, the Axl apologist? To release solo tunes from a mythical "vault," when 14 of the BEST 15 of those best mid-temp piano yawners landed on Wikipedia's worst all-time albums and he had to resort to covering Gn'R at backyard bbq's and weddings to pay his live-ins and employees (to some extent, anyhow, not including one of his "keyboardists")? For other reason(s)? There sure is a fuckload of money in gate, merchandising and licensing/synch by capitulating to the Remaining Partners and performing to seas of buyers/customers in packed stadiums across the world, many of whom are sporting fresh Gn’R shirts and venue-specific trinkets. ---------- To everyone else who just wants to rock TFO to celebrate the #1 debut selling album of ALL-TIME next month with all FIVE ready, willing and able original partners: Adler’s flurry of activity after the presumptive one-year K/NDA expired January 2017 was an extension of his prior (successful) pressure/negotiation-tactics in late 2015 (months later he had his ass on kit to perform ALL AFD songs until his injury). Then he fell silent in March 2017, but in typical Adler fashion threw in a nugget of repetitive fact (this is the guy who has beaten down S/D/A/I in legal proceedings): “I don't have nothing else to say about it. I'm really sorry. That's all I can tell you. There's nothing to say. I literally, literally honest to god literally, I can't even tell you why I can't tell you anymore. Literally, okay? I really can't. I just can't." Adler should be pissing up the S/D/A tree as he was in late 2015 just before he fell silent. Yet is not. A NDA would not reach his thoughts/opinions forward or past-looking, only his time under the K/NDA in 2016. He should be out-and-about precisely now, but is not. It’s your call. Adler is my bellwether. He’ll be returning. But at the “Apollo?” Axl/LN must pretend that Axl is “super-diverse” given OIAM. We have the D/A south of America interview last fall re Izzy, and Izzy’s “bullshit” reply, Izzy’s F.P. Money and, before that, Izzy’s “Stuck in the Middle with You.” We’ve got the conglomerate LN running the show, leasing the marked LN jet, and a massive-grossing world-wide tour. Not good for AFD 30. But we’ve got Adler’s newfound silence. It’s a push. Does the greed of S/D/A (gate, licensing, merch, synch) and LN (“diverse, big tent”) prevail over renegotiating with Izzy and having Adler on the kit for all HIS songs? I sniff the stench of greed and politics of a one-off or brief series given the scheduled spate of American shows in the can. But surely so, too, does LN, Slash’s separate counsel and management and Duff’s separate counsel and management. And maybe even Axl’s live-ins are vaguely aware of the extra dollars that they could eye in Axl’s pocket. LN has data culling and analytics at its disposal on social media posts. There is a balloon of mentions/likes/reposts each time Adler appeared and a spike when there’s been any indication of a full FIVE reunion. In the end, the greed of S/D/A and LN may be to our—the AFD fans’—good. Perverse, right? Fantastic post here. Someone give this man a cigar. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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