The "Axl's Voice" Thread - Please Keep All Discussion Here

[MidnightToker]

If Axl would just do the mature, adult thing and sit down with Myles for a few hours to ask him questions about his techniques I think it would go a long way in improving Axl’s voice. I wonder if Axl ever tried to sing along to World On Fire when he is alone. 

[GNR123GNR456]

It's not really comparable. Jon hasn't sounded like himself since 2002 at the earliest. Other than a few performances or concerts in the last decade or so, his raspy powerful voice from the 90's has been nonexistent. Trust me, as a Bon Jovi fan, I would know. 

Whereas Axl Rose, just 8 years ago, had a strong powerful voice. It was full of rasp and power, his energy on stage was high, and he was in better shape and IMO was the last time he looked like Axl Rose. Every since Rock N Rio 2011 he was a completely different person IMO with little drive and hardly any passion. Were their good performances here and there, yes. But, they added more classic songs like Estranged and Civil War, dropped Chinese Democracy songs like If The World and IRS. Axl gained significant weight and started to look more like Elvis is the 70's than the Axl Rose only from 2010 that was in better shape and with more passion. IMO, something happened between the last show in 2010 and RNR 2011 that changed Axl.

People can compare the 80's singers to Axl Rose, but the problem is a lot of the 80's singers lost their voice a long time ago. Vince Neil hasn't sounded good live in 20 years, the fact that were comparing Axl Rose to Vince Neil (who was not a great singer to begin with) is astounding. I like how people only compare him to bad singers, and not singers like Bruce Springsteen, Steven Tyler, David Coverdale, Kenny Loggins, Richard Marx who still sound good after 30 years. 

 

[sl4yer]

On 11.07.2018 at 5:16 PM, AFGnR said:

Jungle in Poland 2017 vs. 2018, recorded by the same person:

2017 just edging out 2018 here.

Also, note to self: See GnR in Poland!

Compare other song

Nightrain Poland 2017

Nightrain Poland 2018

Here 2018 is ABSOLUTELY killing 2017 in my opinion.

Intro in 2017 is not very bad but mickeyish and in 2018 he sounds like beast like a fucking demon.

And verse in 2018 is deeper and more raspy.

In Chorzow show was longer tho.

Nightrain from Chorzow is 2016 level and from Gdansk is good too especialy ending but this intro in Chorzow kills me.

 

[Gordon Comstock]

7 hours ago, GNR123GNR456 said:

It's not really comparable. Jon hasn't sounded like himself since 2002 at the earliest. Other than a few performances or concerts in the last decade or so, his raspy powerful voice from the 90's has been nonexistent. Trust me, as a Bon Jovi fan, I would know. 

Whereas Axl Rose, just 8 years ago, had a strong powerful voice. It was full of rasp and power, his energy on stage was high, and he was in better shape and IMO was the last time he looked like Axl Rose. Every since Rock N Rio 2011 he was a completely different person IMO with little drive and hardly any passion. Were their good performances here and there, yes. But, they added more classic songs like Estranged and Civil War, dropped Chinese Democracy songs like If The World and IRS. Axl gained significant weight and started to look more like Elvis is the 70's than the Axl Rose only from 2010 that was in better shape and with more passion. IMO, something happened between the last show in 2010 and RNR 2011 that changed Axl.

People can compare the 80's singers to Axl Rose, but the problem is a lot of the 80's singers lost their voice a long time ago. Vince Neil hasn't sounded good live in 20 years, the fact that were comparing Axl Rose to Vince Neil (who was not a great singer to begin with) is astounding. I like how people only compare him to bad singers, and not singers like Bruce Springsteen, Steven Tyler, David Coverdale, Kenny Loggins, Richard Marx who still sound good after 30 years. 

 

 

Axl has always been so versatile that, even though I've criticized him since 2017, I can't count him out. He's stilll got 'good voices' left; his deep voice on Slither or DTJ is strong, his Wichita Lineman voice is good (similar to his Don't Cry or Sorry vocals), his screaming SOYL voice is still good, his CD and Nightrain rasp is still good... but his falsetto on songs like Better or YCBM are so weak and out-of-place that comparisons to 'singers' like Vince Neil are unfortunately valid.

[The Real McCoy]

8 hours ago, MidnightToker said:

If Axl would just do the mature, adult thing and sit down with Myles for a few hours to ask him questions about his techniques I think it would go a long way in improving Axl’s voice. I wonder if Axl ever tried to sing along to World On Fire when he is alone. 

I hope not, because Myles has one of the most annoying singing voices that I’ve ever heard in my entire life.

[WhazUp]

11 hours ago, Jw224 said:

I really don't get comparing Axl to other artists and saying "See he's still good compared to these guys". It doesn't really take away from the fact he doesn't sound good. 

I don't think he sounds that bad either though, especially the latter half of the shows this year there have been some fairly solid shows

Edited July 13, 2018 by WhazUp

[StrangerInThisTown]

56 minutes ago, The Real McCoy said:

I hope not, because Myles has one of the most annoying singing voices that I’ve ever heard in my entire life.

Nothing is worse than Mickey Axl to me. No professional singer should ever sound like that. I understand people who don't like Myles voice and why but please Axls clean voice is ten times worse. Getting any sort of lessons from Myles for techniques wouldn't even really help Axl since he does hit the notes and sing in key, it's just his tone that sounds like ass with that voice. And no vocal coach / techniques are gonna improve that.

Edited July 13, 2018 by StrangerInThisTown

[TheSeeker]

Something I've been thinking about -

During the dark days of NewGNR (2003-2005) I remember Dizzy was asked in an interview about what happened to Axl's voice on the 2002 tour, and his response was something like "he sounds the same to me - he's probably just happy he doesn't have to sing loud to hear himself over all those stage monitors anymore"

Which is true - Axl started using in-ear monitors in 2001 for the first time. And as recent videos have shown, it's oddly quiet on stage without stage monitors and everyone using ear pieces.

Was Axl using stage monitors again for the AC/DC tour or any other GNR gigs in recent history? Maybe that's the reason he busts out the rasp. 

[IncitingChaos]

5 minutes ago, TheSeeker said:

Something I've been thinking about -

During the dark days of NewGNR (2003-2005) I remember Dizzy was asked in an interview about what happened to Axl's voice on the 2002 tour, and his response was something like "he sounds the same to me - he's probably just happy he doesn't have to sing loud to hear himself over all those stage monitors anymore"

Which is true - Axl started using in-ear monitors in 2001 for the first time. And as recent videos have shown, it's oddly quiet on stage without stage monitors and everyone using ear pieces.

Was Axl using stage monitors again for the AC/DC tour or any other GNR gigs in recent history? Maybe that's the reason he busts out the rasp. 

Neh Axl has the same in ear devices. All his sound guys came over from gnr for the ACDC shows to get his equipment right. Besides with Brian going deaf (probably not fully ACDC related) it would seem Axl had maximum protection. 

Axl can simply use his voice in multiple ways. I think that China Exchange interview was the most info we’ve gotten and it was a choice to “clear” his voice up for Chinese Democracy and he feels it’s helped him be better at what he’s doing now. 

But that clean voice wouldn’t fly with ACDC and he knew it. He just went to a vocal coach he trusted and got his voice in proper training to use a high amount of rasp, projection, and took out some nasally vocals to create what sounded like Axl of old  

[Gnrcane]

On ‎7‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 9:11 AM, The Real McCoy said:

Axl, for the most part, sounds pretty good to me.

Want something to complain about and cringe over? Watch Bon Jovi’s embarrassing performance from their rock and roll hall of fame induction. THIS is bad.

 

I can't believe that JBJ and Axl are the same age.  I know AXL has had some work done and probably colors his hair but he looks MUCH younger than JBJ.  Aside from the voice in that video, his look and movements make it seem like he was transported from a Viagra commercial.

[IncitingChaos]

 

just a couple of Axl good vocals and the Russia 2010 show Bc everyone said that his PC at this years show was so good, but I find even with the mess ups in 2010 he sounded better then haha 

[IncitingChaos]

i wasn't aware Axl removed Mickey from this song 

[trqster]

7 hours ago, IncitingChaos said:

i wasn't aware Axl removed Mickey from this song 

Much much better! Now this songs rocks!!! Next please: Slither (higher range parts)

[trqster]

On 7/12/2018 at 5:39 PM, GNR123GNR456 said:

It's not really comparable. Jon hasn't sounded like himself since 2002 at the earliest. Other than a few performances or concerts in the last decade or so, his raspy powerful voice from the 90's has been nonexistent. Trust me, as a Bon Jovi fan, I would know. 

Whereas Axl Rose, just 8 years ago, had a strong powerful voice. It was full of rasp and power, his energy on stage was high, and he was in better shape and IMO was the last time he looked like Axl Rose. Every since Rock N Rio 2011 he was a completely different person IMO with little drive and hardly any passion. Were their good performances here and there, yes. But, they added more classic songs like Estranged and Civil War, dropped Chinese Democracy songs like If The World and IRS. Axl gained significant weight and started to look more like Elvis is the 70's than the Axl Rose only from 2010 that was in better shape and with more passion. IMO, something happened between the last show in 2010 and RNR 2011 that changed Axl.

People can compare the 80's singers to Axl Rose, but the problem is a lot of the 80's singers lost their voice a long time ago. Vince Neil hasn't sounded good live in 20 years, the fact that were comparing Axl Rose to Vince Neil (who was not a great singer to begin with) is astounding. I like how people only compare him to bad singers, and not singers like Bruce Springsteen, Steven Tyler, David Coverdale, Kenny Loggins, Richard Marx who still sound good after 30 years. 

 

True for the most part, but then again back in 2012 this 'rasp overload' took place for the entire Philly show... How do you explain that?

 

 

[TheDemocracyRose]

The unexplainable about Axls voice. Its a mystery. 

 

 

[rudolf1978]

On 13/7/2018 at 1:37 AM, sl4yer said:

Compare other song

Nightrain Poland 2017

Nightrain Poland 2018

Here 2018 is ABSOLUTELY killing 2017 in my opinion.

Intro in 2017 is not very bad but mickeyish and in 2018 he sounds like beast like a fucking demon.

And verse in 2018 is deeper and more raspy.

In Chorzow show was longer tho.

Nightrain from Chorzow is 2016 level and from Gdansk is good too especialy ending but this intro in Chorzow kills me.

 

All the forum knows the songs he sings better are Nightrain and Jungle,iSE and brownstone

 

Went to Iron Maiden show 2 days ago,amazing.Im not going to pay again to see that Gnr Show, i saw them in 2006,2010 and 2017 and the worst was 2017.

[IncitingChaos]

2 hours ago, trqster said:

True for the most part, but then again back in 2012 this 'rasp overload' took place for the entire Philly show... How do you explain that?

 

 

Philly was great, but Axl can do that on you’re crazy Bc he doesn’t practice it. If it were in the set every night he’d find areas to mickey. He just reverts back to his classic voice for it.

2013 was better

[Gnrcane]

I'm starting to think that the lack of rasp is an endurance or physical pain thing and not because he can't do it anymore.  The Patience audio that somebody posted the other day made me play the audio from the show in Miami last August that is posted in the download section by Gibbo.

The outro from "I've been walkin'..." through the first "I need you" were full rasp like it was the 90's.  Then it suddenly switches to Mickey.  It just seems like either he ran out of steam to keep it up or it was hurting to keep singing that way.  This is different than Jon Bon Jovi who literally can't sing anymore.

I suspect that if they ever decided to record new music, Axl would be able to sound very good because he can record a line or two at a time.

[IncitingChaos]

9 minutes ago, Gnrcane said:

I'm starting to think that the lack of rasp is an endurance or physical pain thing and not because he can't do it anymore.  The Patience audio that somebody posted the other day made me play the audio from the show in Miami last August that is posted in the download section by Gibbo.

The outro from "I've been walkin'..." through the first "I need you" were full rasp like it was the 90's.  Then it suddenly switches to Mickey.  It just seems like either he ran out of steam to keep it up or it was hurting to keep singing that way.  This is different than Jon Bon Jovi who literally can't sing anymore.

I suspect that if they ever decided to record new music, Axl would be able to sound very good because he can record a line or two at a time.

yap sounds like this 

[sl4yer]

2 hours ago, rudolf1978 said:

All the forum knows the songs he sings better are Nightrain and Jungle,iSE and brownstone

I was comparing 2017 nightrain to 2018 nightrain.

Not saying that "Hey his voice is great nowadays look at this nightrain"

[koldweather]

I've been re-listening to one of the most under-rated periods in Axl's vocals, the back end of the 2011 tour. When he turned it on he sounded savage for sure!

Nearly 100% rasp in this PC and it sounds so sharp and powerful!

IMO best Civil War from 2011-2018, the only one that comes close is Houston IMO and Seattle 2011.

[Gordon Comstock]

4 hours ago, koldweather said:

I've been re-listening to one of the most under-rated periods in Axl's vocals, the back end of the 2011 tour. When he turned it on he sounded savage for sure!

Nearly 100% rasp in this PC and it sounds so sharp and powerful!

IMO best Civil War from 2011-2018, the only one that comes close is Houston IMO and Seattle 2011.

 

Seattle 2011 was honestly one of the best shows I've been to. I think Axl was in a particularly good mood that night, as it was the first time Duff had joined them since 2010. They played Shackler's pretty early in the set because me and the guy beside me started chanting for it

[Manfisman]

On 12/7/2018 at 10:11 AM, The Real McCoy said:

Axl, for the most part, sounds pretty good to me.

Want something to complain about and cringe over? Watch Bon Jovi’s embarrassing performance from their rock and roll hall of fame induction. THIS is bad.

 

Holly shit, he REALLY sucks

[Amir]

There’s currently more rasp in Shadow Of Your Love than the rest of the setlist altogether.

After a toothless performance on Rocket Queen in Tallinn last night I started thinking, “Why am I here?”

And then Axl comes in sounding like a demon on SOYL.

It’s pretty weird.

[RussTCB]

18 minutes ago, Amir said:

There’s currently more rasp in Shadow Of Your Love than the rest of the setlist altogether.

After a toothless performance on Rocket Queen in Tallinn last night I started thinking, “Why am I here?”

And then Axl comes in sounding like a demon on SOYL.

It’s pretty weird.

Sometimes I wonder if he switches it up on purpose because they may have plans to release a live album. Like he'll put more into certain songs at different times so they have a couple of really good versions to choose from. 

Total guess and it'll probably never happen, but it's crossed my mind.