Pele Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) You seriously just handed this stuff over to 'management'? Was one of these fans named Walker? Edited January 2, 2019 by Pele . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MillionsOfSpiders Posted January 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2019 We are the unluckiest fan base ever! 8 3 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl2002 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Duff with Steve Stevens and Billy Idol and Matt Sorum from Jan u Feb 1995 Show me what you`re made of Streetwise Forbidden Touch New Kind of Fun I would love to hear those tunes :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopcornAdler Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Kudos for being real! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ©GnrPersia Posted January 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2019 Dude, wtf... These material are gone forever.......................... Gonna smoke a pack of cigarettes now... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarpatch Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) If it’s worth listening, it prob has a better chance now than anytime beforehand in being released in the future. Maybe these tapes are better than what they had available. Maybe it stinks and they’re better off buried. Such a mysterious time period in the band’s history. Weird to physically see something that’s actually associated with it Edited January 2, 2019 by guitarpatch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post username Posted January 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Slapshot61 said: So last year when GnR did their LA shows a couple of fans from this page decided to come to my warehouse for a visit. While looking around they saw a row of tapes and they took a closer look. Next thing i know they are taking pics with the tapes and saying "rumbo tapes"... Ive been to rumbo many times so it meant nothing to me, but i did mention it to a GnR crew member. He mentioned it to management and the next thing i knew there was a guy at my warehouse picking them up, cataloging them and bringing them to a safe storage. I had them for over 20 years. So now they are safe and maybe some new "old" music will be forth comming in the comming years.... I understand your position regarding your job and all, but given the faith I have in GnR's management (hint: I highly doubt they're capable enough to sit the right way on a toilet seat, let alone manage a band) this material will never be heard from again. And as a fan, that makes me sad. Edited January 2, 2019 by username 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarpatch Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Just now, username said: I understand your position regarding your job and all, but given the faith I have in GnR's management (hint: I highly doubt they're capable enough to sit the right way on a toilet seat, let alone manage a band) this material will never been heard from again. And as a fan, that makes me sad. They just released an Appetite reissue containing many recordings that are comparable. Say what you want on the packaging, execution and price points, but it happened. That’s a positive outcome when it comes to “in the vault” releases. Slash and Duff having a working relationship with Axl has opened up, even slightly, the possibilities of this stuff seeing the light of day. Compared to 10 years ago where they wouldn’t sign off on this stuff 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RussTCB Posted January 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2019 I think a lot of you are misunderstanding............ and please correct me if I'm wrong @Slapshot61: What he does is storage. He's not in charge of anything else to do with these recordings including (and most importantly) the copyrights. If he copied and shared anything from his archives, he'd be out of business quickly. It'd be similar to an accounting storage facility; they wouldn't be able to just copy and distribute private company documents. I also assume that only authorized personnel would be allowed to pick up these tapes. So they would've been handed over to the people who own the rights, which is most likely Universal. It's not like you can just show up at Slapshot61's facility and say "Hey, can I have those GN'R tapes?" 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post username Posted January 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, guitarpatch said: They just released an Appetite reissue containing many recordings that are comparable. Say what you want on the packaging, execution and price points, but it happened. That’s a positive outcome when it comes to “in the vault” releases. Slash and Duff having a working relationship with Axl has opened up, even slightly, the possibilities of this stuff seeing the light of day. Compared to 10 years ago where they wouldn’t sign off on this stuff You're not wrong, but given this particular band's track record I'm going to remain very sceptical. At least out of self-preservation. I'd love for them to open the vaults in ways that the Stones, Springsteen or The Beatles (just to name some) are doing, but one ridiculously overpriced boxset doesn't exactly say "opening the vaults" for me. Yet. 2 minutes ago, RussTCB said: It's not like you can just show up at Slapshot61's facility and say "Hey, can I have those GN'R tapes?" Too late Russ. At least 150 pissed off GnR fans are already in their trucks blasting Paradise City on the highway while screaming "RAPE THE VAULTS!". 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Slapshot61 Posted January 2, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, RussTCB said: I think a lot of you are misunderstanding............ and please correct me if I'm wrong @Slapshot61: What he does is storage. He's not in charge of anything else to do with these recordings including (and most importantly) the copyrights. If he copied and shared anything from his archives, he'd be out of business quickly. It'd be similar to an accounting storage facility; they wouldn't be able to just copy and distribute private company documents. I also assume that only authorized personnel would be allowed to pick up these tapes. So they would've been handed over to the people who own the rights, which is most likely Universal. It's not like you can just show up at Slapshot61's facility and say "Hey, can I have those GN'R tapes?" You sir are correct... Thank You 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pele Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, RussTCB said: I think a lot of you are misunderstanding............ and please correct me if I'm wrong @Slapshot61: What he does is storage. He's not in charge of anything else to do with these recordings including (and most importantly) the copyrights. If he copied and shared anything from his archives, he'd be out of business quickly. It'd be similar to an accounting storage facility; they wouldn't be able to just copy and distribute private company documents. I also assume that only authorized personnel would be allowed to pick up these tapes. So they would've been handed over to the people who own the rights, which is most likely Universal. It's not like you can just show up at Slapshot61's facility and say "Hey, can I have those GN'R tapes?" Good point, but how official could it all be? If a group of fans were invited in to take a look, who then alerted GNR Mgmt, who immediately turned up to get it - did they even know they had it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slapshot61 Posted January 2, 2019 Author Share Posted January 2, 2019 I dont think many of you understand, this is just stuff. Everything is recorded. There are many many piles like this one in other storage places. If anything was good enough something will be done with it. most of it is just friends playing around with friends. When everyone has a studio in their house this type of stuff happens. I'm sure there are some pretty cool tracks but i dont think many were meant for release. Now they have the oppertinuty to do something with them even if its just to store them properly. I think my point to the posting was to say how fans can affect things bigger than they think, even if they never knew they did. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pele Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Just now, Slapshot61 said: I dont think many of you understand, this is just stuff. Everything is recorded. There are many many piles like this one in other storage places. If anything was good enough something will be done with it. most of it is just friends playing around with friends. When everyone has a studio in their house this type of stuff happens. I'm sure there are some pretty cool tracks but i dont think many were meant for release. Now they have the oppertinuty to do something with them even if its just to store them properly. I think my point to the posting was to say how fans can affect things bigger than they think, even if they never knew they did. Cool, appreciate the story and you sharing the details. Given the desperation of some to hear this material, you can expect some disappointment that it's been handed over but it's obviously not yours to steal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycgunner Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Wow. This is like the Holy Grail! And now it’s gone, potentially, forever. I would have thought Axl’s goons wouldn’t forget recordings like this were out of their control. While sad, the original poster Slapshot61 has a business to run and a fidicuary duty to his investors (not to mention employees). He did the right thing, unfortunately! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slapshot61 Posted January 2, 2019 Author Share Posted January 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, Pele said: Good point, but how official could it all be? If a group of fans were invited in to take a look, who then alerted GNR Mgmt, who immediately turned up to get it - did they even know they had it? 2 guys who spent more than a few $$$ on vintage posters. always welcome. Buy the VR lights i got for sale and swing on by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pele Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Was a guy called Walker involved in any way? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, nycgunner said: Wow. This is like the Holy Grail! And now it’s gone, potentially, forever. I would have thought Axl’s goons wouldn’t forget recordings like this were out of their control. While sad, the original poster Slapshot61 has a business to run and a fidicuary duty to his investors (not to mention employees). He did the right thing, unfortunately! Wait. How is it gone forever? He turned the tapes over to the people that own them (again, most likely Universal). So if anything, this would mean that the record company has even more recordings to work with in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, RussTCB said: Wait. How is it gone forever? He turned the tapes over to the people that own them (again, most likely Universal). So if anything, this would mean that the record company has even more recordings to work with in the future. He says he gave the tapes to management, meaning TB I guess, not the record comapany. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pele Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 11 minutes ago, RussTCB said: Wait. How is it gone forever? He turned the tapes over to the people that own them (again, most likely Universal). So if anything, this would mean that the record company has even more recordings to work with in the future. Yeah, let's be optimistic and hope they wanted it for future release/development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slapshot61 Posted January 2, 2019 Author Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Padme said: He says he gave the tapes to management, meaning TB I guess, not the record comapany. Correct, one specific band member owns these particular tapes not any record company. Management as in someones personal manager most likely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MildlyArtistic Posted January 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2019 I doubt this material will stay in the vault forever. As soon as Axl pops his cloggs, the TB vultures will be itching to keep their income coming! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slapshot61 Posted January 2, 2019 Author Share Posted January 2, 2019 And i always knew they were there, i just didnt think anything of them. Band members saw them every now and then and never made any kinda issue over them. Until a couple of fans thought they were important, thats what i thought was so cool. I asked crew members about the tapes many times and no one really cared, as i said before there are more piles like this one. And if you buy something from me that at my warehouse thats where you will probably get to pick it up. If i deem you sane i let you peek. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 18 minutes ago, Slapshot61 said: Correct, one specific band member owns these particular tapes not any record company. Management as in someones personal manager most likely. Right. I just meant "whomever owns the tapes" when I said Universal. 13 minutes ago, Slapshot61 said: And i always knew they were there, i just didnt think anything of them. Band members saw them every now and then and never made any kinda issue over them. Until a couple of fans thought they were important, thats what i thought was so cool. I asked crew members about the tapes many times and no one really cared, as i said before there are more piles like this one. And if you buy something from me that at my warehouse thats where you will probably get to pick it up. If i deem you sane i let you peek. I think a lot of people are missing this point: NOTHING IS LOST! What happened was some collectors bought some things, happened to see the tapes, then Slapshot let GN'Rs crew know about them and someone from management came to get them. This is a GOOD thing, nothing bad has happened here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedYourIllusion Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 minute ago, RussTCB said: Right. I just meant "whomever owns the tapes" when I said Universal. I think a lot of people are missing this point: NOTHING IS LOST! What happened was some collectors bought some things, happened to see the tapes, then Slapshot let GN'Rs crew know about them and someone from management came to get them. This is a GOOD thing, nothing bad has happened here! It's just hard to be optimistic when "management" has possession of so much quality stuff and 99% of it will never see the light of day 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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