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On 26/02/2019 at 2:31 PM, Tom-Ass said:

First of all I wasn't arguing.. Second I didn't reference a thing about Axl.. 

As far as Duff and Slash I will play along... They toured in the band for a little over a year than Izzy did. This was after the bands legacy was already stamped..

Seriously though. What exactly did Slash and Duff do over the years for the bands branding and popularity?  Release the wildly successful Welcome To The Videos and Live Era? lol I am pretty sure the band wouldn't have been forgotten about without those.  That has to be one of the most overstated arguments around here...

exactly... and what Axl ever did over the years for the bands "branding" and "popularity" other than release a nonsense album that doesn't have any half-good songs (specially when compared to GNR songs) and milking the band's legacy to the bone with an utter and complete nonsense joke band that presented itself to the world as "guns n roses" until that joke no longer worked and he was forced to call slash & duff back so he could continue to do the same?

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1 hour ago, soon said:

Or Izzy was there for at least part of those sessions and has released a lot of music since then, some of which may have been included in those sessions.

No, the 1996 sessions were axl (though he hardly sang anything i guess)/slash/paul/duff/matt/dizzy.

Izzy was briefly involved in 1995 when he wrote and recorded with Duff a bunch of songs that were supposed to by used by gnr but went nowhere. Given their current relationship with Izzy, i don't think they will rework any of those.

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4 hours ago, KURT19 said:

Trust me, I get that.  I saw three of the "reunion" shows and they were a blast. 

But Duff could have been punk as funk if he had told Axl that Izzy and Steven HAD to be involved in that NITL tour with Slash.

It rubs salt in the wound now to see Duff walking the walk and talking the talk for Axl and his "new" music. 

Frustrating because IZZY was a major songwriting force in this band and anything new from GnR should involve him, in my not so humble opinion.

Why is Duff judged based on whether he went to bat for Adler or not? Maybe he didn't think Adler was worth the risk either?

 

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2 hours ago, Ratam said:

He is " feminine as fuck "  ❓:D

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4 hours ago, KURT19 said:

But Duff could have been punk as funk if he had told Axl that Izzy and Steven HAD to be involved in that NITL tour with Slash.

It rubs salt in the wound now to see Duff walking the walk and talking the talk for Axl and his "new" music. 

Well, considering the possibility that there is a great chance that Duff is okay with Izzy and Steven not being part of the NITL tour given that he - in contrast to you - is privy to their demands, I don't really get how you can just conclude it would have been "punk as fuck" if he had refused. You are basically taking your opinions (Steven and Izzy should have been part of the NITL tour on the demands they set) and assume these are shared by Duff, and then conclude that he is weak or whatever for not living up to your opinions.

And I can understand it feels like salt in a wound when Duff doesn't behave the way you wanted and expected him to, but that is of course your own fault for having these strange expectations about him.

It is quite likely and reasonable that Duff is fully behind the decision to not include Steven and Izzy on their terms.

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6 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

Well, considering the possibility that there is a great chance that Duff is okay with Izzy and Steven not being part of the NITL tour given that he - in contrast to you - is privy to their demands, I don't really get how you can just conclude it would have been "punk as fuck" if he had refused. You are basically taking your opinions (Steven and Izzy should have been part of the NITL tour on the demands they set) and assume these are shared by Duff, and then conclude that he is weak or whatever for not living up to your opinions.

And I can understand it feels like salt in a wound when Duff doesn't behave the way you wanted and expected him to, but that is of course your own fault for having these strange expectations about him.

It is quite likely and reasonable that Duff is fully behind the decision to not include Steven and Izzy on their terms.

I don't want to argue but please don't put words in my mouth...I didn't say that Duff should have "refused" anything.  Maybe he did tell Axl that Izzy and Steven should be involved and Axl didn't listen, or care to listen.

I wasn't there.  I do believe that you are right though...

Duff was fully behind the decision to not include Steven and Izzy on their terms because it ultimately benefited his own bank account.

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4 minutes ago, KURT19 said:

I don't want to argue but please don't put words in my mouth...I didn't say that Duff should have "refused" anything.  Maybe he did tell Axl that Izzy and Steven should be involved and Axl didn't listen, or care to listen.

I wasn't there.  I do believe that you are right though...

Duff was fully behind the decision to not include Steven and Izzy on their terms because it ultimately benefited his own bank account.

Or! He was fully behind the decisions to not include them because Izzy's demands were unreasonable and didn't trust Adler could pull it off. 

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Look...I woke up in a bad mood today.  Its snowing here again and cold as fuck...and this band is STILL talking about magnificent new music.

Wake me up when it arrives.

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On ‎2‎/‎25‎/‎2019 at 2:53 AM, h2sublime said:

Here is a release plan that would work for me. 

- Guns release live compilation soon from the entire tour picking the best versions,

- In the fall Guns release a new “best of” with a couple new tracks thrown in written by the big three.

- Spring 2020 the band releases a full album comprising of Axl’s vision for the rest of the chinese material but with Slash and Duff then gear up for a new summer tour, 

 

I know this is a total fantasy but it would be really great if tgey could pull something like this off.

 

Yeah, I also want a live cd/blue ray of the Not in this lifetime tour for sure.

New music would be awesome too. I want GNR to continue for many years to come and new music from them would show they are thinking the same way.

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17 hours ago, Modano09 said:

So instead of new music that everyone can enjoy, you'd rather they be out there touring with Izzy so you can have the peace of mind of knowing that somewhere out there GNR are touring with Izzy included?  But then kind of suggest that touring with Izzy would lead to new music anyway....and Izzy would talk them out of the drummer you don't like.  

YAY!!!!!! You can read!! You aren't as dumb as you appear to be. I am so proud of you... His question asked what we as individuals would rather. I answered that.. Now piss off...

 

16 hours ago, Powderfinger said:

Anyone who saw guns up to 93 saw a different band than anything since or present.

True that

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56 minutes ago, Tom-Ass said:

YAY!!!!!! You can read!! You aren't as dumb as you appear to be. I am so proud of you... His question asked what we as individuals would rather. I answered that.. Now piss off...

 

True that

 

It just seems like a pretty selfish preference. To hell with an album everyone can enjoy, you want Izzy in GNR so you have the peace of mind of knowing he is and have convinced yourself that if Izzy were in GNR all your other annoyances would be taken care of because Izzy would take care of them.

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I just wish this band would release more new music and more than it did in the years 1985-1993, I know that's the bands golden era but it relies so much on that era and its time to get new stuff out, not many bands get two bites of the cherry. 

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51 minutes ago, Modano09 said:

 

It just seems like a pretty selfish preference. To hell with an album everyone can enjoy, you want Izzy in GNR so you have the peace of mind of knowing he is and have convinced yourself that if Izzy were in GNR all your other annoyances would be taken care of because Izzy would take care of them.

Selfish?  Maybe.. I don't care what you want and I certainly don't give a shit one way or the other if you care what I want. One of the things that pisses me off most in this world is when people put words in my mouth.. Your assumptions for my reasoning of what I want is just as bad as doing that... You have no clue of what my thought process is and don't try act all high and mighty and tell me what it is..  Do me a favor and PLEASE select the ignore option of all my posts so I never have to correspond with your annoying ass again.. Please just do that one thing for me... I reply to peoples comments and give my opinions but I have ZERO interest in the constant back and forth bickering that you always seem to be a part of... 

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3 hours ago, RONIN said:

You can't blame cynical comments from the fans when Duff and Slash spent the last 20 years saying that they would never do a reunion without the original 5. Duff in particular was very vocal about how valuable Izzy was to the band and how close they both were post-Guns. Lo and behold, as soon as he's invited back to the table, everything changes. Like with anything in life, money talks. 

Pretty sure they could have worked out some type of arrangement to include Izzy and Adler (a guy who would have basically done it for free) - they didn't want to do it. Fine, their call - perhaps it's even a smart business decision. But there should be no surprise from the Axl fans when others point out the hypocrisy and the cynical money-grab attitude of the band. Trying to justify this entire clusterfuck is simply adding insult to injury really. Most of us don't expect Izzy back. Hell many of us don't even expect new music at this point. But don't insult our intelligence by saying things couldn't be worked out to reunite the Appetite 5. It couldn't be worked out because they didn't want to work it out. If Axl and Slash can put aside their differences and reunite -  you're telling they couldn't have ironed things out with Izzy and Adler? :rolleyes:

I wish someone in that camp with half a brain would just release whatever 90's material is available to iTunes/Spotify - that's the only Ace this band has left to play imho.

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6 hours ago, KURT19 said:

Look...I woke up in a bad mood today.  Its snowing here again and cold as fuck...and this band is STILL talking about magnificent new music.

Wake me up when it arrives.

Seems like our US forum people have had an extremely cold winter this year.

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Wow Duff, this really is cool. As a fan, I love to hear one of the big three state that a new album will happen when it happens. ...the “GN’R thing”....

 

Awesome!!

 

I’d rather these guys just tell the fans who would live a new album to GO FUCK OFF!!! I’d have at least a shred of respect for them. Right now, it’s a joke. I appreciate the tour, but please stop jerk us around with the new album shit, and the Axl has some killer material bullshit. 

 

We have a touring band, here folks. Who pose as an active creative thing by selling their nostalgia for ridiculous prices. Duff, you can take the pity so far but it’s more than I can stand.

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Lol @ all the fantasies of Izzy coming back... lmao even more about Steven (or Matt) coming back. 

Afd reunion will NEVER happen, and that’s ok! You have Axl and Slash together (and to a lesser extent, Duff), let’s see what they can do with Axls songs! That’s all that will ever happen. Look at what Axl did with TWAT, PROSTITUTE, and THE BLUES! Epic gnr tunes. This is what you’re getting. Be happy. BE EXCITED! And if these 3 greedy guys who excluded Izzy release nothing? So be it. One day, Axl will die and Fernando will unleash the vaults for every penny they’re worth.

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15 hours ago, SoulMonster said:

Considering the outcome of the negotiations with Izzy, I don't think they agreed with this.

yeah you are correct, they certainly don't agree

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I would have been very surprised if Izzy was a part of the reunion.  He never had any interest in being in a big band and doing long tours.

He left less than half way though the UYI tour.

He left VR just before Scott joined and it became a big thing in its own right.

He hasn't really toured much at all since he walked away from UYI tour.

 

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34 minutes ago, jacdaniel said:

I would have been very surprised if Izzy was a part of the reunion.  He never had any interest in being in a big band and doing long tours.

He left less than half way though the UYI tour.

He left VR just before Scott joined and it became a big thing in its own right.

He hasn't really toured much at all since he walked away from UYI tour.

 

Yeah, everybody here knows that, but we would have been fine with izzy and steven doing half shows from time to time. everyone beside Axl was OK with a scenario where gilby, matt, steven and izzy were doing shows on rotation mode.

Duff and slash have absolutely no voting rights about personal and digital release decisions. 

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I think that Izzy should be involved with at least a couple of the songs. 1/3 of the album, perhaps. That would be a great gesture to him and his fans. 

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