Ace Nova Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 15 hours ago, marlingrl03 said: Wow!!!!! That crowd is insane!!! That has got to pump the band up like crazy. Best crowd of the tour so far, imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ace Nova Posted October 30, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2016 5 hours ago, IncitingChaos said: You guys are crazy...the ACDC gigs taught you all nothing! Axl's vocals are brilliant but these last two shows just haven't been as good as he was a month ago, nobody is comparing him to his 90's voice, we are comparing him to the voice he used this year. Axl set the bar high after those ACDC gigs, it's as simple as that. I don't think anyone is here just bashing Axl for fun, we all know how great he's been. When Axl plays with ACDC the same people that complain about comparing Axl to his voice 25 years ago say "omg how does he sound like he's 26 again...that's his 88 voice" but we are two shows in in SA and people are back to "he's 54...I'd like to see you try that at his age" People need to stop comparing GN'R shows to the AC/DC shows. It just shows how little you understand about music and vocals. AC/DC songs basically have ONE vocal range and style...it's all rasp, all the time. Guns N' Roses songs have a much, much broader range and require more than one style of vocals to sing. The reason Axl Rose is considered by many industry professionals as one of the best singers of all time is because he has a 6 octave vocal range. 6 FUCKING OCTAVES and he was recorded using his 6 octave range on Guns N' Roses songs. http://www.concerthotels.com/worlds-greatest-vocal-ranges 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlingrl03 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Kasanova King said: That crowd is insane!!! That has got to pump the band up like crazy. Best crowd of the tour so far, imo. Out of likes but so agree! Will be great fun to see who can top that and who in the end after the SA tour is over will be crowned best crowd! Edited October 30, 2016 by marlingrl03 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlsFavoriteRose Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 16 minutes ago, Kasanova King said: People need to stop comparing GN'R shows to the AC/DC shows. It just shows how little you understand about music and vocals. AC/DC songs basically have ONE vocal range and style...it's all rasp, all the time. Guns N' Roses songs have a much, much broader range and require more than one style of vocals to sing. The reason Axl Rose is considered by many industry professionals as one of the best singers of all time is because he has a 6 octave vocal range. 6 FUCKING OCTAVES and he was recorded using his 6 octave range on Guns N' Roses songs. http://www.concerthotels.com/worlds-greatest-vocal-ranges this! yes! i have been trying to tell people this but they don't want to listen, smh... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontdamnmeuyi2015 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 I told you fans are going crazy for GNR! This is the epic tour! Enjoy your South American and Mexican fans! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 33 minutes ago, Kasanova King said: People need to stop comparing GN'R shows to the AC/DC shows. It just shows how little you understand about music and vocals. AC/DC songs basically have ONE vocal range and style...it's all rasp, all the time. Guns N' Roses songs have a much, much broader range and require more than one style of vocals to sing. The reason Axl Rose is considered by many industry professionals as one of the best singers of all time is because he has a 6 octave vocal range. 6 FUCKING OCTAVES and he was recorded using his 6 octave range on Guns N' Roses songs. http://www.concerthotels.com/worlds-greatest-vocal-ranges Yea except saying ACDC songs are all in one range is completely inaccurate. He was hitting extreamly high notes on the Brian material and found a nice mid voice on much of Bon's Axl's current range isn't 6 octaves but what ACDC showed us is that those songs are in a range that works for his current voice and with a little effort he could use a similar style on songs like YCBM PC SCOM and the easiest of all to change would be November Rain. The voice he uses in the outro of Patience would work for NR. We haven't had Axl on vocals on different material since Baz released his album in 06 so ACDC is really the rare chance we got to see what Axl could do singing something other than Guns material and he proved to be exceptional. The reaction from the world agreed he was great. I think it's a natural comparison to make. We know Axl still sounds good, but he might be expecting too much of himself if he's trying to sing the "tougher" songs in their original pitch/key/octave or whatever. But yea it's just something I noticed and see an easy fix for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 13 minutes ago, IncitingChaos said: The voice he uses in the outro of Patience would work for NR. This. He should also use it for YCBM, parts of Estranged, and songs where he generally sounds Mickey. He's 54 I can't fault him losing some range but Axl should focus on reworking the songs in a way he can sing them. YCBM right now is dreadful to listen to save for the bridge. While yes, the new vocal technique wouldn't be similiar to the studio version it would sound a hell of a lot better than how it sounds now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby845 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Kasanova King said: That crowd is insane!!! That has got to pump the band up like crazy. Best crowd of the tour so far, imo. 56 minutes ago, dontdamnmeuyi2015 said: I told you fans are going crazy for GNR! This is the epic tour! Enjoy your South American and Mexican fans! Has anyone noticed the camera crane in front of the stage? Was that for recording purposes or just for the screens... Anyway, even though there were 65 thousand at Mexico City shows this Chile crowd tops it all... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LADoll77 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 show looks cool, the problem is the stale setlist. it takes away much of the excitement for us following online. how hard can it be to play Nightrain as opener once in a while? rotate the songs a bit too. I am excited Axl and Slash are back together and it's working out but please....I'm starting to get bored. it's not just GNR never changing their shows but the skeleton of this setlist has been the same since 2002. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 (edited) 17 minutes ago, AxlRoseCDII said: This. He should also use it for YCBM, parts of Estranged, and songs where he generally sounds Mickey. He's 54 I can't fault him losing some range but Axl should focus on reworking the songs in a way he can sing them. YCBM right now is dreadful to listen to save for the bridge. While yes, the new vocal technique wouldn't be similiar to the studio version it would sound a hell of a lot better than how it sounds now. To me it's all about how his voice projects i posted this in the other thread but you can hear how loud his voice is, how clear it is and it sounds damn good while he's running around. Then at the end he goes back to that high voice that is hardly audible and sounds like it's coming from the back of his head. to me it shows the clearest difference in his voices and shows why he should focus on how his voice projects. Because this outro voice is perfect to my ears another thing I noticed is he has to use a lot more power to get that high voice to sound good, while the other voice he can sprint around and use minimal effort and sound brilliant Edited October 30, 2016 by IncitingChaos 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, IncitingChaos said: To me it's all about how his voice projects i posted this in the other thread but you can hear how loud his voice is, how clear it is and it sounds damn good while he's running around. Then at the end he goes back to that high voice that is hardly audible and sounds like it's coming from the back of his head. to me it shows the clearest difference in his voices and shows why he should focus on how his voice projects. Because this outro voice is perfect to my ears I love the patience outros from this tour also, that's pure vintage Axl. But yeah, I completely agree. As a singer I can tell he's using his head voice when it's mickey, while the general meat and potatoes of the rasp comes from his chest and throat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 It doesn't matter what he sounds like to us watching via periscope, it matters to the fans at the venue and I'm pretty sure they are very happy with what they get. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 5 minutes ago, janrichmond said: It doesn't matter what he sounds like to us watching via periscope, it matters to the fans at the venue and I'm pretty sure they are very happy with what they get. And just to add to this so it doesn't turn into a YouTube versus live debate, the show I went to was 100% incredible. I spent no time studying how Axl was sounding just enjoyed one of the best tours this year and had a great time! But I can't go to these shows so I'm just being a critic and hope it doesn't take away from anyone who attended. We all know how great the shows are live. But with that said if you attended a show in 2010 you could tell a difference and if Guns ever do a live performance for tv I hope we get less high Mickey vocals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vloors Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Would love a straight rock setlist just for at least one show. No ballads. But thats not going to happen. The average fan expects certain songs (the singles) at the concert and guns n roses are expected to play em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 @IncitingChaos i haven't seen them since 93 so I'm certain Axl will sound very different but i know i'll still enjoy it to the max 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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-Jaro- Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, vloors said: Would love a straight rock setlist just for at least one show. No ballads. But thats not going to happen. The average fan expects certain songs (the singles) at the concert and guns n roses are expected to play em. Well, if they had 10-15 albums then there could be shows without some hits now and then, but if they drop all ballads they would have half empty arenas (in best case scenario)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oaka Posted October 30, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2016 We keep forgetting that a year ago this tour and its massive success were not even an issue for the fans! Let's enjoy this reunion/regrouping (whatever you want to call it), this historical moment in rock and the fact that everything seems to work so well and let's stop whining. Still to this moment I can't believe that we are living these moments...I never thought that it would be possible. Thanks to this tour and the enthusiasm it has generated in my soul I have found a way of escapism from some really negative things in my life. So, THANK YOU GNR FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART and I don't care if the set list is stale, if Axl's rasp was missing in Paradise City or whatever....I WAKE UP AND THERE ARE VIDEOS OF AXL, SLASH AND DUFF PERFORMING TOGETHER IN SOLD OUT STADIUMS!!!!! Say whaaaaaat????????? THAT'S ENOUGH FOR ME. 'Cause I never dreamt I would relive these moments. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 1 minute ago, oaka said: We keep forgetting that a year ago this tour and its massive success were not even an issue for the fans! Let's enjoy this reunion/regrouping (whatever you want to call it), this historical moment in rock and the fact that everything seems to work so well and let's stop whining. Still to this moment I can't believe that we are living these moments...I never thought that it would be possible. Thanks to this tour and the enthusiasm it has generated in my soul I have found a way of escapism from some really negative things in my life. So, THANK YOU GNR FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART and I don't care if the set list is stale, if Axl's rasp was missing in Paradise City or whatever....I WAKE UP AND THERE ARE VIDEOS OF AXL, SLASH AND DUFF PERFORMING TOGETHER IN SOLD OUT STADIUMS!!!!! Say whaaaaaat????????? THAT'S ENOUGH FOR ME. 'Cause I never dreamt I would relive these moments. Haha well said, I'll lay off the criticisms till next time. Still love what's going on with this band 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsOfSpiders Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 (edited) I saw Axl in 2010 and again in 2012. I honestly had a much better time in 2012, the setlist was much better for me as he added Civil War and Estranged. In 2012 both times Axls voice was shot by PC but it didn't matter cos we were singing it so loud with him, and he was definitely giving it his all. 6 minutes ago, janrichmond said: @IncitingChaos i haven't seen them since 93 so I'm certain Axl will sound very different but i know i'll still enjoy it to the max Yep Edited October 30, 2016 by MillionsOfSpiders 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lies They Tell Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 1 hour ago, IncitingChaos said: We know Axl still sounds good, but he might be expecting too much of himself if he's trying to sing the "tougher" songs in their original pitch/key/octave or whatever. This! I think most of us would prefer it, if Axl would use a different kind of voice on certain songs. But I guess this is why people call Axl a perfectionist. He wants to sing songs in their original pitch/key, even if it means that he'll sound like Mickey. He doesn't want to cheat. He doesn't want to make the songs easier for himself, even if the songs would sound better that way. No matter what, he always tries to sing the songs in their original pitch/key. That's just how it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby845 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 1 hour ago, gunsguy said: anyone managed to find one of these? or Lima ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibsonLP Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 17 hours ago, GN'R MEX said: i hope to see a better setlist here in mexico Best predictor of future behaviour is past behaviour so I wouldn't expect anything too different from these recent shows. Any changes will be a slow evolution I think rather than a radically different set list happening overnight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibsonLP Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 15 minutes ago, scooby845 said: anyone managed to find one of these? or Lima ones? These picks are awesome but isn't the real excitement from getting a pick at the show because it was actually used by Slash / Richard / Duff? Doesn't seem quite as cool getting an unused one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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