jekylhyde Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 The industrial-vibe, the vicious punk-esque attitude of the lyrics and those ambient parts are cool, but as a composition Silkworms is a hot mess. It doesn't go anywhere. It's "start, stop, start, stop, start and done". With a better structure it could be a good song, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I think what it needs is Duff on vocals and a long Slash blues solo. If Dizzy does a piano intro like No Quarter I think it will be ready. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Silkworms, Rhiad and Scraped are the 3 weak links of CD, imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Słash Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 It would have been better if they put Atlas Shrugged instead of Riad and Scraped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estranged_85 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, Słash said: It would have been better if they put Atlas Shrugged instead of Riad and Scraped PLEASE answer me this: wtf is Atlas Shrugged? yes i know it's some rumor about a song title but it haven't even leaked? or have i missed something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Słash Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, estranged_85 said: PLEASE answer me this: wtf is Atlas Shrugged? yes i know it's some rumor about a song title but it haven't even leaked? or have i missed something? Its a song which was supposed to be on CD, but the album din't have space to squeeze in. Together we walked this road No matter where we go Oh my Atlas Shrugged Now don't leave me alone Deep down in my heart Where we had a home In the snow flakes of Atlas Shrugged Now don't leave me alone Ohhhh ohhhh Atlas Shrugged Ohhhh Ohhhh Atlas Shrugged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 2 hours ago, bucketfoot said: To me that song sums up where Axl was with CD for a long time, that he didn't really know what he wanted to do with the record. The song doesn't really go anywhere for me, just half ideas meshed together. There's a reason why it didn't make the cut when CD was finally released, I could have maybe lived with it if it had come out as part of a heavily industrial record in '00-'02 but that just sounds horribly dated to my ears. To me it's like the type of song you do when you first enter the studio full of energy and conviction and everyone brings their shit. So Axl is rapping over Dizzy/Pitman with venom. Lyrically it kind of shows conviction and determination from Axl early on and generally on the record Axl seems ready to rumble, but it was never released to back that up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estranged_85 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 15 minutes ago, Słash said: Its a song which was supposed to be on CD, but the album din't have space to squeeze in. Together we walked this road No matter where we go Oh my Atlas Shrugged Now don't leave me alone Deep down in my heart Where we had a home In the snow flakes of Atlas Shrugged Now don't leave me alone Ohhhh ohhhh Atlas Shrugged Ohhhh Ohhhh Atlas Shrugged yeah, but some people talk about the song like it's a released song or something that people have actually heard don't get that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucketfoot Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 20 minutes ago, wasted said: To me it's like the type of song you do when you first enter the studio full of energy and conviction and everyone brings their shit. So Axl is rapping over Dizzy/Pitman with venom. Lyrically it kind of shows conviction and determination from Axl early on and generally on the record Axl seems ready to rumble, but it was never released to back that up. It definitely has venom to spare in those verses, I'll give you that but it just seems unfocused or half finished to me. Maybe it could work as like a mid section of a 10 minute epic or something, or if they could write a big hook for it but the song as it is just doesn't do it for me I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Słash Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Spaghetti comes in my mind when someone says Silkworms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Jay Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 It's very punk rock sounding, with element of funk. I don't hear anything experimental with it. It's a great song, it rocks just like It's So Easy. I wish we could hear the final version, even with Duff and Slash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabberwocky Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I say "fuck the naysayers" when it comes to Silkworms. That song and Oh My God got me REALLY excited for what Axl and the rest were gonna do. I was instantly hooked. As much as I kinda dig on a bluesy rock riff, I can go full head on with heavy industrial music. I've listened to way more industrial/electronic stuff than I have the standard rawk n roll. I would have killed to get a full album of Guns going just flat out, the brake lines have been cut, psychotic industrial songs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 8 hours ago, bucketfoot said: It definitely has venom to spare in those verses, I'll give you that but it just seems unfocused or half finished to me. Maybe it could work as like a mid section of a 10 minute epic or something, or if they could write a big hook for it but the song as it is just doesn't do it for me I'm afraid. Oh that's something different. Yeah it doesnt the GNR dynamics. Bucket added a new solo as I remember. What I was saying is it's what happen at the beginning of recording Dizzy does his song, Tommy did Riad. They played them at the early RIR. Chi dem, Silkworms, The Blues, Riad, Madagascar were like the first ep. If Chi dem was the single Silkworms was the b side. And that would have been alright in the late 90s. But so much scrutiny came on the record it maybe had to become like 12 singles. The fact that Silkworms is less GNR sounding than what made it on CD kind suggests that more diverse stuff iis vaulted. Axl said he didn't want dirty porn associated with his record so maybe Silkworms wasn't really the kind of thing he wanted on CD. It has some of the shock value of It's so Easy. It's still really out of step with the landscape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucketfoot Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 6 minutes ago, wasted said: Oh that's something different. Yeah it doesnt the GNR dynamics. Bucket added a new solo as I remember. What I was saying is it's what happen at the beginning of recording Dizzy does his song, Tommy did Riad. They played them at the early RIR. Chi dem, Silkworms, The Blues, Riad, Madagascar were like the first ep. If Chi dem was the single Silkworms was the b side. And that would have been alright in the late 90s. But so much scrutiny came on the record it maybe had to become like 12 singles. The fact that Silkworms is less GNR sounding than what made it on CD kind suggests that more diverse stuff iis vaulted. Axl said he didn't want dirty porn associated with his record so maybe Silkworms wasn't really the kind of thing he wanted on CD. It has some of the shock value of It's so Easy. It's still really out of step with the landscape I remember that porn thing. Wasn't that because Buckethead was watching endless porno while recording his guitar parts in his chicken coop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, bucketfoot said: I remember that porn thing. Wasn't that because Buckethead was watching endless porno while recording his guitar parts in his chicken coop? I think so. But they didn't really use that to promo the album on release. I think if Bucket's sock puppet talked to Best Buy they could have got video money. I definitely think Axl has a broader musical taste or what he'd like GNR to be than what is the reality. But maybe he should trusted his instincts more. Blazing out with OMG and Silkworms might have created so excitement to drop in The Blues and Madgascar as singles. Edited March 22, 2017 by wasted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitha_whiskey Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 10 hours ago, Słash said: Its a song which was supposed to be on CD, but the album din't have space to squeeze in. Together we walked this road No matter where we go Oh my Atlas Shrugged Now don't leave me alone Deep down in my heart Where we had a home In the snow flakes of Atlas Shrugged Now don't leave me alone Ohhhh ohhhh Atlas Shrugged Ohhhh Ohhhh Atlas Shrugged If those are the actual lyrics, not only does it need to stay unreleased, all recordings of it need to be sealed in a lead lined concrete vault and never opened. Pussy full of maggots sounds like Nobel prize level poetry compared to that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Jay Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Fitha_whiskey said: If those are the actual lyrics It's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Słash Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 7 hours ago, Silent Jay said: It's not. Well at least i am a better song writer than Paul Tobias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
History2010 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 55 minutes ago, Słash said: Well at least i am a better song writer than Paul Tobias I.R.S? There Was A Time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Słash Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 4 hours ago, History2010 said: I.R.S? There Was A Time? No one knows what he actually wrote in those songs The amazing solo in TWAT was done by bucket and robin The vocals, synth and the acoustic guitar was done by Axl Maybe one or two lines of the lyrics could have been written by paul some of the fans who actually know TWAT listen to it cause of the amazing vocals by Axl and incredible guitar work by bucket and robin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ZoSoRose Posted March 24, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2017 Visual equivalent to Silkworms, 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Fan Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) I thought the small snippet with the "clean" scream demo was cool, and kinda made me revisit it again. I actually just heard the remix for the first time tonight. This was posted in the TIL remix thread On 3/22/2017 at 0:02 AM, Mendez said: https://mega.nz/#!coNkFTzJ!0bAvV9BKBbqfV8MtVwIK26xqyW43fuPwsnRxMiwH2Gs Edited March 24, 2017 by Estranged Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Ideas in the music could be ok but it was unfinished and unfit to debut live. The lyrics are what make it an unlistenable piece of trash for me. Same with Shotgun Blues. "Pussy full of maggots" and "Suck my ass" make them terrible for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonGuns Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 10 hours ago, Estranged Fan said: I thought the small snippet with the "clean" scream demo was cool, and kinda made me revisit it again. I actually just heard the remix for the first time tonight. This was posted in the TIL remix thread didn't the full song leak, or just the snippet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucketfoot Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 14 hours ago, ZoSoRose said: Visual equivalent to Silkworms, You're being way too kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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