Popular Post IncitingChaos Posted July 20, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2017 Beta did good. She congratulated Izzy and Steven but made it clear to someone that asked that they won't be there tonight. She's not teasing anyone or being rude about the situation, it's all been pretty transparent thus far. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Izzymacbeth said: Ok, I apologise for the asshole and bitch thing. Havin a bad day here. All good. Let's just try to keep things civil 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pishy Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 15 minutes ago, EvanG said: Come on, man, I agree with most of what you just said, but let's not exaggerate. I'm not exaggerating, Izzy is a creator , a true artist, an originator , Izzy is god , lol! Seriously, the man is skilled and everything about him is right, he is GnR, it's so noticeable without him that it's distracting . I know im participating in some bloated, money grab for guys who don't care one bit about GnR, just capitalizing off of an oppprtunity and who want to brainwash idiots that that blue smurf was always there, just behind the kit, remember? And that frank doesn't beat the drums like some mindless robot or force axl to break into a rap at times. But I'll never not notice Izzy and Adler's abscene or how 2-faced "nice guy" duff is every bit as callous as axl. It's not GnR, but because they abruptly left, there are a lot of us who never got to see them and were reeling for decades and we are just trying to fill the void. No one can replace Izzy, he is the master. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoseTatu Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 No periscopes yet? No people waiting there? Where is the fans that sleep last night before the concert? Where is Fede!! 10 hours left and Im really nervous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
default_ Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 It seems Beta has just confirmed neither Izzy or Steven are going to be there so... I think to keep this shit going on here is pointless. Like it or not this is the band now and keep bitching about it will not bring AFD5 back. What we can do is expect for the best. Fortus is good, you guys seem to ignore his work oustide GNR but he actually did good creating music for a lot of genres, and Melissa is Zig Zag, Tracey, Roberta and the whole horns sections in just one person, a necessary evil. Frank still bothers me but what Im going to do? This is the band now. Like it or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanG Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Pishy said: I'm not exaggerating, Izzy is a creator , a true artist, an originator , Izzy is god , lol! Seriously, the man is skilled and everything about him is right, he is GnR, it's so noticeable without him that it's distracting . I know im participating in some bloated, money grab for guys who don't care one bit about GnR, just capitalizing off of an oppprtunity and who want to brainwash idiots that that blue smurf was always there, just behind the kit, remember? And that frank doesn't beat the drums like some mindless robot or force axl to break into a rap at times. But I'll never not notice Izzy and Adler's abscene or how 2-faced "nice guy" duff is every bit as callous as axl. It's not GnR, but because they abruptly left, there are a lot of us who never got to see them and were reeling for decades and we are just trying to fill the void. No one can replace Izzy, he is the master. I'm not that much into worshipping other people as you clearly are, but I agree that he's great, terrific songwriter, etc. But I only called you out on the ''highly skilled guitarist'' comment. That's pushing it a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOS--LOA Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 10 minutes ago, Nikki_Sixx said: You obviously don't know what you're talking about Half of UYI was written with or before the AFD material. Half of UYI was written by or with Izzy. Over half of the GNR catalogue was written by or with Izzy. Slash hardly ever wrote anything for GNR (aside from solos obviously). Duff wrote even less. Slash and Duff weren't even in the band yet, when some (classic) GNR songs were written ... Strictly speaking from a songwriting point of view, the reason the last GNR album with original material was released in '91, is because Izzy left even before it was released. It all went downhill from there and ended in '96. GNR died when Izzy left. RIP. How can you say Slash hardly wrote anything for GN'R? That's simply not true. And Duff wrote even less? Also not true. I know people want to defend Izzy's legacy but let's not get carried away here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DaneisKing1389 Posted July 20, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2017 I don't chime in on the pointless arguments often, but there's a reason why Izzy's solo stuff isn't great. He needed the others, just like they needed him. They were a team. That should be the end of the argument. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzymacbeth Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 11 minutes ago, Nikki_Sixx said: You obviously don't know what you're talking about Half of UYI was written with or before the AFD material. Half of UYI was written by or with Izzy. Over half of the GNR catalogue was written by or with Izzy. Slash hardly ever wrote anything for GNR (aside from solos obviously). Duff wrote even less. Slash and Duff weren't even in the band yet, when some (classic) GNR songs were written ... Strictly speaking from a songwriting point of view, the reason the last GNR album with original material was released in '91, is because Izzy left even before it was released. It all went downhill from there and ended in '96. GNR died when Izzy left. RIP. Out of likes but basically all true. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 1 hour ago, gnfnrs1972 said: Axl, don't wear your boots tonight. Wear tennis shoes. We don't want you to break your foot, leg, or hip on this small stage. No shit man! I was I Vegas and going to StL. If that happens again I'll be pissed!!! in hundsight maybe I'm the bad luck charm. Of the 6 times I've seen GnR, Axl was in a boot at both the Deer Creek shows in 1991 and then chairbound at both. Vegas shows, so, 4/6 he's been hobbled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerInThisTown Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 I'm pretty sure Adler will be there, even if Beta said no. Hopefully for more than 2 songs. But Izzy yea that ship has sailed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post maynard Posted July 20, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2017 Well, that Beta post should clear things up and maybe put on the thread title or OP. STEVEN AND IZZY WON'T BE THERE. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 On 19/7/2017 at 9:18 AM, alfierose said: We created this as a show update thread to make it easier for people wanting real time updates, the other one is a bit more general discussion. I think there is room for both but I'll put your suggestion to the rest of the mod team. Just saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pishy Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 1 minute ago, EvanG said: I'm not that much into worshipping other people as you clearly are, but I agree that he's great, terrific songwriter, etc. But I only called you out on the ''highly skilled guitarist'' comment. That's pushing it a bit. Saying he was god was a joke because as I wrote the sentence, it was obvious I do think very highly of him. Worshipping? Is that your way to negate the truth about Izzy? The worshippers are the ones that just look for the GnR name and say "I'm the biggest fan , of all of them!" Like it demonstrates some sort of necessary dedication or sophistication . Just means you're a mindless stooge. The band is Izzy! Never going to change. And yes, he is highly skilled, there is no debate there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneshootin Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Anyone else (without tickets) going to hang out around the Apollo before the show or am I the only person with too much free time on my hands? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RussTCB Posted July 20, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, maynard said: Well, that Beta post should clear things up and maybe put on the thread title or OP. STEVEN AND IZZY WON'T BE THERE. I'm seriously considering starting & pinning a second thread just for Steven & Izzy related arguments, just so this thread does't keep getting derailed all day and possible through the show. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJean Baby Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 44 minutes ago, Kelmi said: Quest apperaence from Izzy and Steven. Mark my words. No she replied she included them because they were part of that era ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanG Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Just now, Pishy said: Saying he was god was a joke because as I wrote the sentence, it was obvious I do think very highly of him. Worshipping? Is that your way to negate the truth about Izzy? The worshippers are the ones that just look for the GnR name and say "I'm the biggest fan , of all of them!" Like it demonstrates some sort of necessary dedication or sophistication . Just means you're a mindless stooge. The band is Izzy! Never going to change. And yes, he is highly skilled, there is no debate there. Fortus is highly skilled, that guy with the bucket on his head is highly skilled, Slash is highly skilled, although one could argue about that even. Izzy isn't a highly skilled guitarist. That doesn't mean he isn't good enough to do what he does on the guitar and that he isn't a great songwriter. Fuck, even Duff who has only ever said nice things about the man, has gone on record saying he wasn't a great guitarist. And that's okay, most guitarists in rock bands aren't highly skilled, but you don't need to be. Anyway, I'm not getting into another Izzy discussion, it's been done too many times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post downzy Posted July 20, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2017 Okay guys and gals, enough with the Steven and Izzy arguments. That is not what this thread is meant for. Today is a special day for GNR fans and discussions relating to who should be in the band can be held elsewhere on this forum. All future posts relating to Steven and Izzy and why they should be (or are not) on stage tonight will be removed from this thread. Thanks! 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 I sign up for free Sirius trial. Log into the GNR Radio. Pumped up for GNR celebration. Thunderstruck is playing. The Album version no less. Great song and all, but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, downzy said: Okay guys and gals, enough with the Steven and Izzy arguments. That is not what this thread is meant for. Today is a special day for GNR fans and discussions relating to who should be in the band can be held elsewhere on this forum. All future posts relating to Steven and Izzy and why they should be (or are not) on stage tonight will be removed from this thread. Thanks! Here you go everyone! Please keep show updates & discussion in this thread and PLEASE take ALL Izzy & Steven related discussion here:http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?/topic/218753-apollo-show-izzy-steven-not-playing-argue-about-it-here/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pishy Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, goneshootin said: Anyone else (without tickets) going to hang out around the Apollo before the show or am I the only person with too much free time on my hands? I'm feeling delusional, so I'm going . A few are already there, wouldn't recommend that though, closer to show time seems more logical, if we can even call this behavior logical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xBrownstonex Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 So fucking excited about this. Kinda takes me back to april 1st 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Once again, this thread is meant to be used to discuss tonight's show. It is not for arguing/debating matters that have been discussed for literally decades. Please take non-topic discussions elsewhere in this forum. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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