The "New Album" Thread . The maybe, possibly, at some point, soon, whenever, wtf Axl thread🤞

[Sweersa]

2 hours ago, Kosonen said:

Have a feeling theres no new album in 2022. Its coming, but maybe 2023-24? Theres no rush, not that they are getting old or anything. 

I'd be more excited for the 2006-14 CD2 leaking than anything the current lineup puts out.

[smokingarthur]

49 minutes ago, Sweersa said:

I'd be more excited for the 2006-14 CD2 leaking than anything the current lineup puts out.

I wonder how many of those recordings he ran over with his Ferrari….

[Free Bird]

3 hours ago, Kosonen said:

Have a feeling theres no new album in 2022. Its coming, but maybe 2023-24? Theres no rush, not that they are getting old or anything. 

I have a feeling I won't travel to the moon in 2023

[jamillos]

7 hours ago, Rovim said:

honestly, it's you who seem to have an issue with my opinion which is that repeating the exact same shit everyday is pointless. It's a cheap tactic to label my opinion as policing just because you don't like it. Please show me where I said anyone was wrong for having a different opinion than mine. All I said was that I personally don't feel the need to point out how shit Axl is at releasing music until I'm blue in the face and that you do what you need to do to get whatever you want out of it.

 

7 hours ago, Rovim said:

I don't find the thread boring, I find repeating the same shit over and over again boring. It's not just you, it's 2 or 3 other people so thanks, I will.

I think you’re still missing the point, though. There’s not really any "repeating the exact same shit every day". Different people from different time zones come here at different times, saying different things. And yes, since many affairs surrounding the band suck, people will complain. Trouble is, you keep perceiving it as one unit, like I’ve said before. But these people also say other things, which you don’t see, since you’re not focusing on that. And as the band doesn’t deliver, some complaints are bound to appear every day – therefore, you’ll inevitably get the feeling that it’s the same shit every day, while it’s just not, plain and simple. 
And it’s funny how you keep telling people how they should come to terms with the fact Axl works in mysterious ways, yada yada, but you yourself can’t seem to be able to come to terms with the fact some people (especially when there are dozens of them active every day) will always say something negative, reflecting the reality. 
Maybe you should put them all on the ignore list and make yourself a nice little HTGTH out of this place, just for your convenience. 
Plus, that constant complaining about constant complaining – read up on irony, will you? It’s literally you who keeps repeating even the same sentences over and over, see above. 
Peace, and skip some shit if it bothers you that much. 

[AxlRoseCDII]

I think Axl and Fernando are just sitting back laughing their asses off at this thread

[jamillos]

1 hour ago, AxlRoseCDII said:

I think Axl and Fernando are just sitting back laughing their asses off at this thread

Axl can, but I don’t think Merchnando should be laughing at anything here. Wherever I remember that "yes, no, maybe" and other famous stunts of this genius people’s man and manager of the year (not to mention the TB vs. YT saga), it’s us who should actually laugh (better than crying anyway)! 

[Rovim]

2 hours ago, jamillos said:

 

I think you’re still missing the point, though. There’s not really any "repeating the exact same shit every day". Different people from different time zones come here at different times, saying different things. And yes, since many affairs surrounding the band suck, people will complain. Trouble is, you keep perceiving it as one unit, like I’ve said before. But these people also say other things, which you don’t see, since you’re not focusing on that. And as the band doesn’t deliver, some complaints are bound to appear every day – therefore, you’ll inevitably get the feeling that it’s the same shit every day, while it’s just not, plain and simple. 
And it’s funny how you keep telling people how they should come to terms with the fact Axl works in mysterious ways, yada yada, but you yourself can’t seem to be able to come to terms with the fact some people (especially when there are dozens of them active every day) will always say something negative, reflecting the reality. 
Maybe you should put them all on the ignore list and make yourself a nice little HTGTH out of this place, just for your convenience. 
Plus, that constant complaining about constant complaining – read up on irony, will you? It’s literally you who keeps repeating even the same sentences over and over, see above. 
Peace, and skip some shit if it bothers you that much. 

well, I think there is definitely repeating the same "why can't Axl be like other musicians and just get on with it, he sucks" kind of thing. That is what I was talking about, not any other criticism of the band in this case, which by the way, I have no real issue with and agree with some of it myself.

what anyone says here doesn't bother me enough to put them on ignore and I think it defeats the purpose of the discussion cause I'm interested in knowing what everyone here has to share, but I should be able to sometimes express my frustration with what I believe is of no value to the discussion and conversely, anyone that doesn't like it, can just ignore me as well.

I'm just not the type to skip shit. Peace and have a great day.

Edited July 25, 2022 by Rovim

[SoulMonster]

It bugs me because it is basically stupid. Arguing that GN'R should be like other bands and expressing frustration that they aren't, in 2022, is like insisting that 1+1=3, it just bugs me because we should know better by now. 

[DTJ80]

3 hours ago, jamillos said:

Axl can, but I don’t think Merchnando should be laughing at anything here. Wherever I remember that "yes, no, maybe" and other famous stunts of this genius people’s man and manager of the year (not to mention the TB vs. YT saga), it’s us who should actually laugh (better than crying anyway)! 

Fernando has gone awful quiet actually….he was active on Discord/Reddit and can’t say I’ve seen anything from him in ages? Yes - much of what he said hasn’t come to fruition…still the move to radio silence is odd.

[jamillos]

39 minutes ago, DTJ80 said:

Fernando has gone awful quiet actually….he was active on Discord/Reddit and can’t say I’ve seen anything from him in ages? Yes - much of what he said hasn’t come to fruition…still the move to radio silence is odd.

Yeah, then again, we know who calls the shots, don't we. But I'd say we could ascribe this to touring. There's no need to say anything as long as something is happening. But if there was a half-year concert inactivity, I'd bet he'd surface again for a bit of "yes, no, we'll see". 

[DTJ80]

7 minutes ago, jamillos said:

Yeah, then again, we know who calls the shots, don't we. But I'd say we could ascribe this to touring. There's no need to say anything as long as something is happening. But if there was a half-year concert inactivity, I'd bet he'd surface again for a bit of "yes, no, we'll see". 

True enough

[EvanG]

Some people fail every time to understand what is being said. No one is attacking anyone's opinion. No one is saying you're not allowed to complain or give criticism. Personally, I agree with a lot of it, and regarding no new music, I even agree with the worst complainers on here. The only thing I have called them out on is the endless repetitiveness of the same complaint on a daily basis, which gets annoying. Yes, I can put them on ignore, which I have done with a few posters, but it doesn't always work because when they get quoted you still have to scroll through their constant whining.

22 hours ago, jamillos said:

Plus, how did this little conversation start? Folks were talking about Aerosmith, nobody bats an eye. Then a few posts about other artists releasing new shit appear and suddenly the justice league is here. As someone said above, take it light-heartedly. It’s just fun, yet you seem to be the ones who are frustrated, considering this as some horrible complaining. It’s just innocent pointing out things, isn't that allowed? 

You're right, the topic changed to Aerosmith for a few posts, and I thought it was so funny and predictable that you of all people again had to throw in yet another ''GnR are so unproductive'' line for the umpteenth time. Like you couldn't accept that people weren't complaining about GnR for a few posts, so you had to remind everyone yet again about how unproductive they are. As if we had forgotten because we talked about Aerosmith for a few posts!

22 hours ago, jamillos said:

Take me for example – yes I call them like I see them, but I’d bet ya people who’ll call me out on this will never notice when I say something nice.

You say this a lot, but again you're missing the point. I am sure you have said positive things about this band. I mean, I assume you are a fan. But that doesn't take away the fact that you repeat yourself silly on a daily basis here. And that is what you are called out on. Nothing else. I suppose calling someone out on this is pointless, but I always have some hope that a poster like yourself will finally realize and reach the conclusion that ''yes, I do repeat myself a lot and I've already said this same thing 5,000 times before, maybe I should take it easy and relax a bit more''. But I guess my efforts are in vain.

21 hours ago, Blackstar said:

I don't know why people see only case studies of negativity or positivity (depending on their own P.O.V) as representative of the forum as a whole. For example, in the Slash commercial thread there have been positive as well as negative reactions.

 

I don't really see this happening. I think everyone knows this forum can be both positive and negative, and I think that's how it should be, especially regarding a band with as many flaws as GnR. Yes, sometimes there's too much negativity, at least in my opinion, but often it's quite positive too. During the European tour I think about 8 out of 10 posts were very positive.

14 hours ago, vloors said:

What's funny to me are those shutting down peoples discussions about a new album in the new album discussion thread. If you don't want to see peoples opinions on new music then move on to a different thread.......

No one is shutting anyone down. Again, people are reacting to the endless same old complaint from the same few posters because it gets really old.

Edited July 25, 2022 by EvanG

[allwaystired]

2 hours ago, DTJ80 said:

Fernando has gone awful quiet actually….he was active on Discord/Reddit and can’t say I’ve seen anything from him in ages? Yes - much of what he said hasn’t come to fruition…still the move to radio silence is odd.

Yeah I thought that too. 

But then, he must get tired of mentioning things he wants/expects to happen then for them not to happen. 

What would he say really? 'yeah more touring'? 

[jamillos]

48 minutes ago, EvanG said:

Some people fail every time to understand what is being said. No one is attacking anyone's opinion. No one is saying you're not allowed to complain or give criticism. Personally, I agree with a lot of it and regarding no new music I even agree with the worst complainers on here. The only thing I have called them out on is the endless repetitiveness of the same complaint on a daily basis, which gets annoying. Yes, I can put them on ignore, which I have done with a few posters, but it doesn't always work because when they get quoted and you still have to scroll through their constant whining.

You're right, the topic changed to Aerosmith for a few posts, and I thought it was so funny and predictable that suddenly you of all people again had to throw in yet another ''GnR are so unproductive'' line for the umpteenth time. Like you couldn't accept that people weren't complaining about GnR for a few posts, so you had to remind everyone yet again about how unproductive they are. As if we had forgotten because we talked about Aerosmith for a few posts!

You say this a lot, but again you're missing the point. I am sure you have said positive things about this band. I mean, I assume you are a fan. But that doesn't take away the fact that you repeat yourself silly on a daily basis here. And that is what you are called out on. Nothing else. I suppose calling someone out on this is pointless, but I always have some hope that a poster like yourself will finally realize and reach the conclusion that ''yes, I do repeat myself a lot and I've already said this same thing 5,000 times before, maybe I should take it easy and relax a bit more''. But I guess my efforts are in vain.

I don't really see this happening. I think everyone knows this forum can be both positive and negative, and I think that's how it should be, especially regarding a band with as many flaws as GnR. Yes, sometimes there's too much negativity, at least in my opinion, but often it's quite positive too. During the European tour I think about 8 out of 10 posts seemed to be very positive.

No one is shutting anyone down. Again, people are reacting to the endless same old complaint from the same few posters because it gets really old.

The trouble with you is that you keep repeating the same while accusing others of doing the very same thing. I’ve already told you that barely anyone is repeating the same shit here every day, including me, but if you focus on it, then that’s what you’ll see, because more people comment on the situation, and it’s often dire. You say people are missing the point while you’re missing the point. You’re the one who keeps repeating literally the same sentences (about 4 times today), while I pointed out all I did was mention Ozzy’s new album – for one time and one time only. And then the police came out of the woodwork. 

And it’s not "people are reacting to the endless same old complaint from the same few posters because it gets really old". No, it’s actually the same few posters are reacting endlessly to quite a number of people who complain occasionally, and when combined with other people, it may look like everything they say is negative. That's what gets really old. For the umpteenth time. 

I don’t know what else to say other than once again, put me (or whoever) on the ignore. You say that you’re interested in what people have to say, yet on the other hand you like to keep telling them what they should be saying. Something is off here. If you can’t endure the fact this is a free speech place and therefore some shit may get repeated (since there’s not much to talk about anyway), then maybe try the other forum, you’d love it there. You don’t see me endlessly reprimanding someone who repeatedly claims that Axl now sounds the same way he did a few years back, even though I think it’s nonsense, do you? I think that’s absurd, but it’s their business, and the last thing I’d do is tell them they should stop repeating that. Conversely, I wouldn't care if the situation was reversed. 
I’ve been a fan for three decades, been through heaven and hell with this band, defended Axl and/or the band when no one else would, translated tons of stuff for otherwise clueless people and fans, had own sites and a forum, was there for all those great moments, been a member of various sites and forums, had someone thank me in an introduction to a book about GNR/UYI (all in a different language, don’t even bother asking for links), and the last thing I need now is some forum policeman telling me what to think or what to say. 

Smoke a blunt, man. 

Edited July 25, 2022 by jamillos

[El Guapo]

So, the new album, is it out yet?

[EvanG]

32 minutes ago, jamillos said:

The trouble with you is that you keep repeating the same while accusing others of doing the very same thing.

If you actually bothered to read my entire post, you would have read that I said I do this because I have some hope that someone finally reaches some understanding of how repetitive and annoying they are. But I guess I'm naive. Because me, and several other posters, have tried many times to explain this to you but you fail every time to comprehend.

 

32 minutes ago, jamillos said:

I’ve already told you that barely anyone is repeating the same shit here every day, including me,

Yet I've seen you type the same shit, maybe in a different context or with different words, countless of times. And I'm not the only one who noticed this and called you out on it. So we're all wrong, huh? That's strange!

32 minutes ago, jamillos said:

You say that you’re interested in what people have to say,

I have never said this. You're confusing me with another poster. It's impossible to take you seriously if you can't even remember who said what.

 

32 minutes ago, jamillos said:

Smoke a blunt, man. 

How old are you?

32 minutes ago, jamillos said:

I’ve been a fan for three decades, been through heaven and hell with this band, defended Axl and/or the band when no one else would, translated tons of stuff for otherwise clueless people and fans, had own sites and a forum, was there for all those great moments, been a member of various sites and forums, had someone thank me in an introduction to a book about GNR/UYI (all in a different language, don’t even bother asking for links), and the last thing I need now is some forum policeman telling me what to think or what to say. 

I think I am beginning to understand now why you're so uptight and why GnR's abnormality gets to you so much.
It's great that you love this band so much, but I don't think it's healthy to invest so many emotions in a rock band.
When they don't do what you want, you end up posting on their fan forum with complaints and frustration all day long.
Oops...

32 minutes ago, jamillos said:

I don’t know what else to say other than once again, put me (or whoever) on the ignore

Yeah, also explained this. You really should read a post before replying.

I don't have fun talking to you anymore because you can't understand simple shit and you don't seem to read my posts or confuse me with another poster. So I'm out.

Edited July 25, 2022 by EvanG

[jamillos]

11 minutes ago, EvanG said:

If you actually bothered to read my entire post, you would have read that I said I do this because I have some hope that someone finally reaches some understanding of how repetitive and annoying they are. But I guess I'm naive. Because me, and several other posters, have tried many times to explain this to you but you fail every time to comprehend.

 

Yet I've seen you type the same shit, maybe in a different context or with different words, countless of times. And I'm not the only one who noticed this and called you out on it. So we're all wrong, huh? That's strange!

I have never said this. You're confusing me with another poster. It's impossible to take you seriously if you can't even remember who said what.

 

How old are you?

I think I am beginning to understand now why you're so uptight and why GnR's abnormality gets to you so much.
It's great that you love this band so much, but I don't think it's healthy to invest so many emotions in a rock band.
When they don't do what you want, you end up posting on their fan forum with complaints and frustration all day long.
Oops...

Yeah, also explained this. You really should read a post before replying.

I don't have fun talking to you anymore because you can't understand simple shit and you don't seem to read my posts or confuse me with another poster. So I'm out.

Yeah, I confused the two things with someone else, sorry. Some of you have used the same sentences, but mea culpa. Other than that, my arguments still stand I’m afraid. And please don’t make this about me; several people get attacked by the local holy guard on a regular basis, not just me. You call me uptight, yet you’re the one constantly chastising someone for their opinions. Funny. 
Anyway, over and out. 

[Rovim]

38 minutes ago, El Guapo said:

So, the new album, is it out yet?

no, but Tom Morello was accidentally tackled by a security guard at a Rage Against The Machine show.

[Live Like a Suicide]

3 hours ago, DTJ80 said:

Fernando has gone awful quiet actually….he was active on Discord/Reddit and can’t say I’ve seen anything from him in ages? Yes - much of what he said hasn’t come to fruition…still the move to radio silence is odd.

As much as i dislike Fernando, his job mostly seems to centre on the tours, and it makes sense for him to be busy before/during/after tour legs. He posts on Reddit every now and then though.

[EvanG]

2 minutes ago, jamillos said:

Yeah, I confused the two things with someone else, sorry. Some of you have used the same sentences, but mea culpa. Other than that, my arguments still stand I’m afraid. And please don’t make this about me; several people get attacked by the local holy guard on a regular basis, not just me. You call me uptight, yet you’re the one constantly chastising someone for their opinions. Funny. 
Anyway, over and out. 

Dear Lord! For the umpteenth time, it’s not about your opinion. I think I even agree with your opinion for the most part. That is why your “defending the band to death” argument is so silly. You think me, or anyone else, is happy about how this band operates? Fuck no. But most of us aren’t little girls who feel the need to cry about it all the time on a freaking forum. There’s a huge difference between criticism and constantly knocking someone. But you don’t get that. So let’s leave it at that please because we’re going in circles.

[invisible_rose]

1 hour ago, allwaystired said:

Yeah I thought that too. 

But then, he must get tired of mentioning things he wants/expects to happen then for them not to happen. 

What would he say really? 'yeah more touring'? 

The question everyone wants to ask seemingly has no answer, so he's kinda on a hiding to nothing. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. And as someone else said, the guy is probably dealing with one or two things right now 

[jamillos]

1 hour ago, EvanG said:

Dear Lord! For the umpteenth time, it’s not about your opinion. I think I even agree with your opinion for the most part. That is why your “defending the band to death” argument is so silly. You think me, or anyone else, is happy about how this band operates? Fuck no. But most of us aren’t little girls who feel the need to cry about it all the time on a freaking forum. There’s a huge difference between criticism and constantly knocking someone. But you don’t get that. So let’s leave it at that please because we’re going in circles.

Yes, it’s not the opinion, it’s the repetitiveness, I get it (got it the first time), wrong choice of words! But I also told you that you only focus on the negative. 
Seriously, how hard is it to skip someone’s posts (or put them on ignore)? I couldn't give a shit if someone said Axl's an asshole every goddamn day.
So look, why don’t you take the higher road and let people drown in their own stupidity instead of trying to make them realize what they’re doing wrong? I think it’s definitely better than this:

 

On 7/24/2022 at 3:09 PM, EvanG said:

What's the point in coming here on a daily basis to tell people this?
Why else be so redundant and repetitive? 

 

On 7/24/2022 at 3:30 PM, EvanG said:

No point in repeating this at every opportunity.

 

2 hours ago, EvanG said:

 I have called them out on is the endless repetitiveness of the same complaint on a daily basis, which gets annoying. 

their constant whining

you repeat yourself silly on a daily basis here

said this same thing 5,000 times before 

people are reacting to the endless same old complaint from the same few posters because it gets really old.

 

1 hour ago, EvanG said:

how repetitive and annoying they are

Yet I've seen you type the same shit, maybe in a different context or with different words, countless of times. 

you end up posting on their fan forum with complaints and frustration all day long
 

 

Please see the picture already. 

Bye. 

[Sweersa]

12 hours ago, smokingarthur said:

I wonder how many of those recordings he ran over with his Ferrari….

He probably has that version of the album on CD in his Ferrari

[EvanG]

1 hour ago, jamillos said:

Yes, it’s not the opinion, it’s the repetitiveness, I get it (got it the first time), wrong choice of words! But I also told you that you only focus on the negative. 
Seriously, how hard is it to skip someone’s posts (or put them on ignore)? I couldn't give a shit if someone said Axl's an asshole every goddamn day.
So look, why don’t you take the higher road and let people drown in their own stupidity instead of trying to make them realize what they’re doing wrong? I think it’s definitely better than this:

The reason I repeat myself is because you keep asking questions that have already been answered. Many times. And not just by me.
So for the last time: because it's annoying and because I hoped, in all my naivety, that by explaining this as well as I can, that you would finally understand how annoying and repetitive you have become. But I realize now, no matter how many people say this to you, that you can't see it. 

1 hour ago, jamillos said:

Bye. 

Bye.

[smokingarthur]

1 hour ago, Sweersa said:

He probably has that version of the album on CD in his Ferrari

At some point Axl had to have made a power play to recapture any latent material, especially with vocals that was in the hands of anyone he worked with and their stooges.
 

I no longer ascribe to the idea that there are all these songs in various stages of development in the hands of studio execs and recording teams which trickled down to some hoarders and enthusiasts. I believe at this point that most of those loose ends have been tied.