colonizedmind Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 42 minutes ago, allwaystired said: Yeah if you cut it at a different speed you can do that. I don't think they will do that though as it's increasingly rare for that to happen with 7 inch now. The other issue is that the more you put it on, the more the sound quality is compromised. Both of these are reasons I want this single on fucking CD! Still got my fingers crossed and not ordered the vinyl yet in the hope that it's coming. Guess we'll find out in 68 days (or even before) maybe it could be an edit too....or just that the song isn't as long. We have to remember there were no 7+ minute songs on Chinese and still it had a few "epics"....I'm just glad it's finally being unleashed from his mythical shelf.... Atlas and Soul Monster in November would make it a truly truly awesome year! Then anything can dribble out before Slash gets his wish sometime between now and 2030! 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 5 hours ago, Lies They Tell said: I thought about that too. I also thought about Oh My God. But I guess it depends on how you define "epic". Neither The Garden or Oh My God are epic enough in my opinion. I wouldn't call them epic songs, even if they lean a bit into that direction. Agree on Oh My God. Wouldn't call that epic by any means But I disagree on The Garden. With slightly over 5 min runtime it's not the length that makes it epic for my taste, but the build up, the psychedelic sound, the atmosphere... Alice Cooper, the crazy part during the solo and the heavy riffing towards the end. Pure greatness. Simply epic for me 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonizedmind Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) Anyone gonna make a The General countdown? 68 days to go? Ok.... https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/fall?iso=20231027T00&p0=137&msg=The+General+UNLEASHED&font=cursive Feel free to add to OP 😸 Edited August 19, 2023 by colonizedmind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted August 19, 2023 Author Share Posted August 19, 2023 I think the rumour about State of Grace being The General - or having morphed into the General - started by some "insiders". But also some posters here said that they heard some of the same notes not in the cell phone recording, but in the orchestral intro of the General that was played at GN'R shows. Discussion in the leak thread: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabrph5 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Free Bird said: Agree on Oh My God. Wouldn't call that epic by any means But I disagree on The Garden. With slightly over 5 min runtime it's not the length that makes it epic for my taste, but the build up, the psychedelic sound, the atmosphere... Alice Cooper, the crazy part during the solo and the heavy riffing towards the end. Pure greatness. Simply epic for me Agree, its one of my favorites. The Garden and OMG should not be talked about in the same sentence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, colonizedmind said: Guess we'll find out in 68 days (or even before) maybe it could be an edit too....or just that the song isn't as long. We have to remember there were no 7+ minute songs on Chinese and still it had a few "epics"....I'm just glad it's finally being unleashed from his mythical shelf.... Atlas and Soul Monster in November would make it a truly truly awesome year! Then anything can dribble out before Slash gets his wish sometime between now and 2030! 😆 I think we might be getting ahead of ourselves with the idea of two more songs coming in November! Give them a couple of years to manage to release something else! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonizedmind Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, allwaystired said: I think we might be getting ahead of ourselves with the idea of two more songs coming in November! Give them a couple of years to manage to release something else! Riding the high ....don't bring me down 😏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 All this talk about if 7” is big enough for the monster. Size queens! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grayfox Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 I don’t believe for a minute State of Grace is The General. Entirely possible the name for State of Grace changed, sure. But the only thing that comes close to The General from village leaks is Billionaire and that’s only aimed at the orchestra part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 There is a shared chord progression in The General and SoG which is what led to the rumor. It’s a common chord combo though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR4Ever2024 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 48 minutes ago, colonizedmind said: 2030 Not real year. Nope the world ends on 2029 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Gunner Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 state of grace is much better than perhaps... well at least it has the potential to be... the leak was rough as fuck but sounds much heavier and way less like whiney CD material 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZODIAC Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, jafeijo said: My only fear is: why such an epic, really good song would be reducted to a b-side of a single? Maybe it was for that reason, why they called it the "R" side... 😉 1 hour ago, jafeijo said: My only fear is: why such an epic, really good song would be reducted to a b-side of a single? Maybe it was for that reason, why they called it the "R" side... 😉 Edited August 19, 2023 by ZODIAC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted August 19, 2023 Author Share Posted August 19, 2023 It could be because it's too non-commercial for a standalone single. Maybe also they don't want to release it with much fanfare, because they know that this song has been mythologized by a portion of the fanbase and fans expect nothing short of a masterpiece, so they want to reduce such expectations. That doesn't necessarily mean that the song is not good, but they probably don't want the fans to expect a new Estranged. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 5 hours ago, Bansidhe said: As much as the song is anticipated amongst hardcore GN'R marks, it doesn't seem that The General will be the type of song that will get a load of radio play. Given the alleged subject matter and it being a bit less *accessible musically to the average listener, it'll most likely be one of those tunes that proper fans will love (maybe a bit like Coma) but you'd hardly ever hear it played on radio. * I appreciate that we've only heard some parts and not in great quality but it was enough to give the impression that it's not one of their more poppy offerings What’s the alleged subject matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F*ck Fear Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, Cosmo said: What’s the alleged subject matter? Child abuse, if I remember correctly. Never listened to the shitty cell phone clip. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted August 19, 2023 Author Share Posted August 19, 2023 11 minutes ago, Cosmo said: What’s the alleged subject matter? Yeah, child abuse, but there's no evidence, not even indication. Just fan speculation based on a vague reference by Axl to an unnamed song with this subject in combination with Evader's attempt to decipher the lyrics from the cell phone clip. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngunner Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 3 hours ago, rumandraisin said: Nah, not used until 2006. I've been to 19 shows since MSG 02. I could be wrong. It's been a long time. I have the vhs of that show. I'll have to take a listen one day but you are probably right 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020_Intensions Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 36 minutes ago, Blackstar said: It could be because it's too non-commercial for a standalone single. Maybe also they don't want to release it with much fanfare, because they know that this song has been mythologized by a portion of the fanbase and fans expect nothing short of a masterpiece, so they want to reduce such expectations. That doesn't necessarily mean that the song is not good, but they probably don't want the fans to expect a new Estranged. Yeah, I mean, why would fans expect a new Estranged, it's not like Axl said the song was the "part 2" of Estranged or anything ... Oh wait ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted August 19, 2023 Author Share Posted August 19, 2023 1 minute ago, 2020_Intensions said: Yeah, I mean, why would fans expect a new Estranged, it's not like Axl said the song was the "part 2" of Estranged or anything ... Oh wait ... "Part 2" may be just in relation to the theme, the lyrics etc, not necessarily about the quality or any musical similarities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caught_in_a_Coma Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 If anything, I'm expecting this to be more like a Coma part 2. I'm not saying it is that or will be that, but Coma has a heavy, sound of conflict and despair or insanity to it. I'd imagine The General has a similar feel to it if it needed to be compared to the sound of another GN'R track. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnuld Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Blackstar said: I think the rumour about State of Grace being The General - or having morphed into the General - started by some "insiders". But also some posters here said that they heard some of the same notes not in the cell phone recording, but in the orchestral intro of the General that was played at GN'R shows. Discussion in the leak thread: It is curious that SOG was not on that list of CD2 options considering it was pretty complete other than the vocals at the end of the bridge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlog Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 I'm on the hype train. I've just bought the single on vinyl and I don't even have a way to play it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GnR Chris Posted August 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2023 I hate these GNR trolls / “insiders” who keep throwing darts on a wall, hoping something sticks. Get the fuck out. Same losers who spend their time updating setlist dot FM during live shows with fake information. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebeldhipi Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 1 hour ago, youngunner said: I've been to 19 shows since MSG 02. I could be wrong. It's been a long time. I have the vhs of that show. I'll have to take a listen one day but you are probably right 2002 had a different orchestral intro. Like manic strings with some ambient ambiance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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