BreakDown2014 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, uzi your illusion said: For the guitar players on the board, in the 2nd live performance of General, was Slash's solo more faithful to the recording that we have, rather then the first time around? Nope, he still doesn't get anywhere near the studio version. It's a shame because the solo outro in the studio version is pure perfection 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Like a Suicide Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, NicoRourke said: I've asked in the lyrics thread but maybe better suited here: regarding The General's lyrics, what does "And not the sordid meaning" means, in the context of the song? I'm not a native speaker, so not sure I'm getting the meaning right :-) I commented this in the other thread, but I hear the chorus as this: My only regret Is that I never took the time to forget All those unspoken feelings That were never spared At those who understand Love deserves respect And not disordered meaning In this way, the lyrics make sense. His experiences had such a negative impact that his subsequent feelings weren't spared on anyone, even those who understood his pain. To put it simply, he took his anger out on people due to his unspoken feelings, even on those who either loved him or understood him, and he regrets that. Edited November 7, 2023 by Live Like a Suicide 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnraxl13 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Anyone have a list of songs that weren’t used on cd? Obviously theres absurd, hard school, perhaps, the general & monsters, but I use to be a detective on forums from 2002-2010 & I remember there being a bunch of song titles being thrown around. I think axl has 2 albums ready to go as of now with songs left over. He HAS to have song titles we never heard of locked away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 15 minutes ago, Gnraxl13 said: Anyone have a list of songs that weren’t used on cd? Obviously theres absurd, hard school, perhaps, the general & monsters, but I use to be a detective on forums from 2002-2010 & I remember there being a bunch of song titles being thrown around. I think axl has 2 albums ready to go as of now with songs left over. He HAS to have song titles we never heard of locked away. Aside from the singles they've released in the NITL era, we can assume these would've been on CD2: Atlas Going Down Tonto Cuban Skies Nothing Monstrocity Thyme OMG There's also titles like State Of Grace, Berlin, Down By The Ocean, Seven, and probably a couple others I'm forgetting... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 10 hours ago, El Guapo said: He's VERY nice here...you can tell he thinks it absolutely sucks. But really, the song itself...The General sounds like it was written in half an hour and then made "epic" with the orchestra and all the extra stuff. In mean, imagine they came out with something like Locomotive or Jungle next, how would The General or Perhaps compare with their minimum lyrics and sections? Mh. I don't think it's epic at all but it has this fantastic powerful outro. It lacks another 4 minutes if greatness to bd consider an epic IMO. If they'd find a way to merge this with Monsters, maybe through a bridge or a solo than we could talk a bout ONE epic song but that's not gonna happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonizedmind Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 3 hours ago, kingcanyon said: You mean Axl unless we're calling Axl god now In GNR world, isn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonizedmind Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 4 hours ago, Monty said: First post back in a long long time, hello everyone. I do prefer Monsters to The General. If you told me back in 2004 that it would take until 2023 to actually hear "The General" finally.... ...You would've made a pack with the devil and thanked Christ you're still alive... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie Bear Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 This track is terrible. Axl has nothing left. Nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 15 hours ago, ZoSoRose said: Actually, a lot of the songs on Chinese went from simple to epic because of all of their layers but even quite a few of those had some cool song structures with instrumentals, intros and outros, leads, etc. All the leftover songs sound more like leftovers because they have a lot of repetition and basic parts. This is ok with me. I mean, the arrangement and layers do make a huge difference, and maybe the song structure was thought to be simple because of those other elements to be begin with. I mean, this is an extreme exemple, but look what Hans Zimmer did with Interstellar's soundtrack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 48 minutes ago, Fozzie Bear said: This track is terrible. Axl has nothing left. Nothing. Nothing is a terrible track, Bottom of the barrel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumandraisin Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 33 minutes ago, Coma16 said: Nothing is a terrible track, Bottom of the barrel Nothing is just a sketch. I'm confused why anyone would put it as a potential track for an album. It's the OMG drum loop with some scratch vocals. Aside from that I can't see how that melody could be turned in to a Guns track. But there's others from the discs too that wouldn't work and probably got dropped, mostly the Bucket and Brain stuff like Real Doll. Bits of those tracks could work though. The sleazy Browns style rif in Dub Suplex at 1.30 is cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I like Nothing. I'd be pleased to hear a finalised version. Gives me the same vibes (but obviously not nearly as good of a song) as Zep's D'yer M'aker. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uzi your illusion Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 8 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said: Aside from the singles they've released in the NITL era, we can assume these would've been on CD2: Atlas Going Down Tonto Cuban Skies Nothing Monstrocity Thyme OMG There's also titles like State Of Grace, Berlin, Down By The Ocean, Seven, and probably a couple others I'm forgetting... What are the "L" and "V" next to the titles? Implying thay Lyrics and Vocals are still needed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uzi your illusion Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Voodoochild said: This is ok with me. I mean, the arrangement and layers do make a huge difference, and maybe the song structure was thought to be simple because of those other elements to be begin with. I mean, this is an extreme exemple, but look what Hans Zimmer did with Interstellar's soundtrack. Someone here once posted the demo of "Eye On You" set to the Interstellar trailer and it was pretty epic. Anyone still have that? I searched to no avail. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, uzi your illusion said: What are the "L" and "V" next to the titles? Implying thay Lyrics and Vocals are still needed? No one knows. People have assumed that it could be "Lyrics" and "Vocals" but I doubt it, as we know that Atlas already had lyrics and also there's "lyr" after another song, which suggests that lyrics would be indicated differently. Another thought is that "V" may stand for "Verse", "Ch" for "Chorus" and "Br" for "Bridge", meaning that there was still work needed to be done for those parts. But then there's no explanation for the rest ("M", "H", "L"). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 11 minutes ago, uzi your illusion said: Someone here once posted the demo of "Eye On You" set to the Interstellar trailer and it was pretty epic. Anyone still have that? I searched to no avail. Eye on You? How would that be? McCoughney being the MacDaddy lost in space? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020_Intensions Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 The General is a decent song. It's a far cry from epic. It definitely was not worth the wait. Will never get over Axl taking as long as he did to release ChiDem to then never follow it up and then 13 years later fart out lackluster leftovers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudolf1978 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I dont like monsters,the general,absurd, hard skool meh....perhaps is a decent song for CD. I really hope starting from 0 magic will happen again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindmelon Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Blackstar said: No one knows. People have assumed that it could be "Lyrics" and "Vocals" but I doubt it, as we know that Atlas already had lyrics and also there's "lyr" after another song, which suggests that lyrics would be indicated differently. Another thought is that "V" may stand for "Verse", "Ch" for "Chorus" and "Br" for "Bridge", meaning that there was still work needed to be done for those parts. But then there's no explanation for the rest ("M", "H", "L"). Now don't laugh at this theory but... This was 2008 before DJ joined right? I wonder if some of those letter indicate guitarists trying out & songs he wants to hear them on. They wouldn't want it to get out who was trying out would they? So why not make his notes in short hand. M i expect is for Monster given it's next to Soul (¬ repeated) V is the roman numeral for 5 which is John 5 or possibly it could stand for Vai. D is for DJ Ashba. BR is Brian May. L could stand for Lynch as is George Lynch. Solved. (edit) On a serious note i think Br is Brain Edited November 7, 2023 by Rindmelon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mendosa Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Hey guys long time no see! I haven't already listen to monsters and the general but looking forward to ! I hope i won't be disapointed after this long expectation Sincerly, still and always Your commander in chief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scottish nutter Posted November 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2023 25 minutes ago, mendosa said: Hey guys long time no see! I haven't already listen to monsters and the general but looking forward to ! I hope i won't be disapointed after this long expectation Sincerly, still and always Your commander in chief Is this you asking where to get them without asking where to get them? Lol 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Its Tino Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I have TG outro wails stuck in my head. For 2 days now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethalis Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Its Tino said: I have TG outro wails stuck in my head. For 2 days now. That's probably tinnitus. I don't like the TG outro Monsters is great though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trin9498 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Lethalis said: That's probably tinnitus. I don't like the TG outro Monsters is great though. agree....the outro on the leaked version made my ears hurt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Its Tino said: I have TG outro wails stuck in my head. For 2 days now. Don't listen to them. The outro is awesome. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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