colonizedmind Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 51 minutes ago, DoMw94 said: Worked for Aerosmith 🤷♂️ What's Diane Warren up to? She's written a #1 hit for just about them all, apart from Guns! Lol....Drag her out...she's still going right? 😏 Edited November 27, 2023 by colonizedmind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRRHCP98 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 hours ago, General2112 said: Someone on Reddit shared this. Radio station in Japan might’ve played the general Apparently it was indeed played, but the person that listened couldn’t tell if it was the version that leaked in October… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather14 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I wonder if there is still bad blood between Izzy and the band. 1 hour ago, Blackstar said: I'm not so sure he wouldn't call Izzy if he got seriously into the process of making new music I too feel like Axl could call him if he really wants something, and Izzy wouldn't say no to that. So either Axl isn’t interested in any new materials, or Izzy is out of reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfacelessturtle Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, JimiRose said: Yes but i would still live to be alive for when this happens. Plus consuming them 1 at a time, and 2 every two years is a dreadful listening experience. If they'd have just released 10 together you could listen to the in sequence, like ones first then later, then get a full experience. They are so THROWAWAY, being released this way. You hear it non stop for a week because it's the only one, then you just move on and wait for the next. what the fuck is the point. Totally disagree. Releasing every song as a single allows each one a chance to shine and that way nothing becomes a forgotten album track. Obviously we'd all like them to do it faster, but that's another discussion. There are so many album tracks by bands I love that truly could have been big hits if they just had the chance to be a single. "Perhaps" got way more attention in 2023 than it would have if released as just another track on CD with no video. Edited November 27, 2023 by evilfacelessturtle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitchisback Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said: The obvious answer is to call Izzy but that's not gonna happen. I think he's too stubborn to hire writers who aren't 'part of the crew' like Arkeen, Huge, etc. But I agree, hiring songwriters wouldn't be a bad thing. I don't think the issue is getting Axl to write the songs. If Slash, Duff, Richard and Axl sat down to write an album I'm sure they could churn something out with at least a couple bangers I think Axl just has little to no desire to enter a studio, deal with a producer and a record label anymore. I think everything he went thru during Chinese Democracy just turned him off to the whole idea of it. Axl seems like a man at peace enjoying his life right now, why would he want to do something that he doesn't enjoy if he doesn't have to? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwalker19 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I've listened back to the cellphone clip a few times since Monsters leaked and to me it sounds like the original solo was probably better than Slash's as absurd as that is to say due to the quality. 😂 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavgnr Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, Jwalker19 said: I've listened back to the cellphone clip a few times since Monsters leaked and to me it sounds like the original solo was probably better than Slash's as absurd as that is to say due to the quality. 😂 Yeah I hear that. Hearing the bucket/Finck version is my finally holy grail with this band 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 5 hours ago, Blackstar said: It would be a bad thing for me. I wouldn't like them to hire Desmond Child type writers to write generic radio friendly songs for them just to have new music. I'd really take more Absurd's over that I'm not so sure he wouldn't call Izzy if he got seriously into the process of making new music. The real question is whether Izzy would be interested. Assuming that money is the main reason he didn't join the reunion to begin with... There's more money in touring than in albums these days. So I don't see the motivation for Izzy at all. Even if they'd throw a big chunk of money at him now, I doubt he would. 5 hours ago, Rindmelon said: We know there is Izzy stuff that's unreleased for gnr, probably wouldn't need to work with him again they could just dig out old stuff. Don't see it happening though. We don't know how far along that stuff was and what the quality even was. I'm assuming it's more rough ideas and or song sketches than actual finished tracks. Might be nowhere near finished and even if it was they'd need to sort out a royalties construction as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, username said: The real question is whether Izzy would be interested. Assuming that money is the main reason he didn't join the reunion to begin with... There's more money in touring than in albums these days. So I don't see the motivation for Izzy at all. Even if they'd throw a big chunk of money at him now, I doubt he would. I think the reason was not money per se, but Izzy being aware that the "loot" would be very big and so he thought that he deserved a bigger cut off of it than what was offered to him. So, as far as Izzy is concerned, it would mostly depend on whether he would be in the mood to write with them. No one knows what he's doing these days or if he still writes (although he apparently recorded some new solo material a while ago, but it's unknown what has happened to it). Quote We don't know how far along that stuff was and what the quality even was. I'm assuming it's more rough ideas and or song sketches than actual finished tracks. Might be nowhere near finished and even if it was they'd need to sort out a royalties construction as well. Izzy in 1998: Stradlin' also revealed that two years ago he sent Axl about 18 songs, which Axl wanted to use on the new GN'R album. "Then his lawyers sent me a letter, they wanted me to give Axl the rights to these songs. Fuck you! Use the songs if you want, but leave the lawyers out of this", Izzy says. These songs were probably in addition to the 1995 Izzy/Duff demos. Then Axl called Izzy again and asked him to send the demos (presumably the ones from 1995 or all of them). I suppose the royalties wouldn't be a problem (even Brain's friends will get royalties for The General), but maybe the rights (ownership and copyright) would be. Edited November 27, 2023 by Blackstar 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindmelon Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, username said: The real question is whether Izzy would be interested. Assuming that money is the main reason he didn't join the reunion to begin with... There's more money in touring than in albums these days. So I don't see the motivation for Izzy at all. Even if they'd throw a big chunk of money at him now, I doubt he would. We don't know how far along that stuff was and what the quality even was. I'm assuming it's more rough ideas and or song sketches than actual finished tracks. Might be nowhere near finished and even if it was they'd need to sort out a royalties construction as well. its gnr nothing is ever finished Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JimiRose Posted November 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, evilfacelessturtle said: Totally disagree. Releasing every song as a single allows each one a chance to shine and that way nothing becomes a forgotten album track. Obviously we'd all like them to do it faster, but that's another discussion. There are so many album tracks by bands I love that truly could have been big hits if they just had the chance to be a single. "Perhaps" got way more attention in 2023 than it would have if released as just another track on CD with no video. People listen to music on streaming platforms like eating a packet of M&Ms. you open the packet, you eat it, you throw it away. Onto the next bag. You release an album, you get CDs, Booklets, magazine and newspaper reviews, interviews (well maybe not) you get 1 or 2 singles released to build the anticipation. Then it arrives you get 14 songs. I like track 3 and 5 best, listen to them loads, you prefer track 7 and 8. after a couple weeks i think well faceless turtle loves them, let me hear them again properly, then boom they hit me, i feel that love, and the cycle continues, to the point where eventually the whole album means loads to me and now i can spend a whole hour listening to it al the way through singing every word and picking up instrumental bits i never heard before. How it flows between songs, trying to find hidden messages. One song every two years? lame as fuck. Look how hyped we were for 10 years for the general. there was a week of mass hysteria when it got leaked, then, dead. now no one gives a fuck. if that was part of an album, we'd be still bringing it up constantly with every other songs. GnR have completely fucked CD2. It should have come 2010. then it should have come 2014. then it should have come 2021 in full with slash and duff. Instead we're about to hit 2024 with only 3 songs over 3 years officially released currently. Lame as fuck Edited November 27, 2023 by JimiRose 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimiRose Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 6 hours ago, Blackstar said: It would be a bad thing for me. I wouldn't like them to hire Desmond Child type writers to write generic radio friendly songs for them just to have new music. I'd really take more Absurd's over that I'm not so sure he wouldn't call Izzy if he got seriously into the process of making new music. oooooooh miss blackstar, going to have to pull you up on this! Dude looks like a lady? Crazy? Angel? Aerosmith brilliant tracks with child. Living on a prayer, Bon jovi, I was made for loving you kiss, posion alice cooper? ok i get they are all very much of their time and a little bit 'sappy' compared to what we like to think of as GnR gutter rock. But they are great songs. If he can help gnr write one of those, we'd all be loving it! GnR have used outside writers before (though usually friends) one radio single hit to help push the album of GnR only written stuff. you'd love it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caedo Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 8 hours ago, General2112 said: Someone on Reddit shared this. Radio station in Japan might’ve played the general Why is no one talking about this? Surely means it’s being dropped Friday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 27 minutes ago, Caedo said: Why is no one talking about this? Surely means it’s being dropped Friday Because we already have it? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNfr Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, allwaystired said: Because we already have it? you have the leak or the rip of the released single? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Just now, DeNfr said: you have the leak or the rip of the released single? Is there a difference? I was under the impression they were the same, or is that a matter still to be resolved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 55 minutes ago, Caedo said: Why is no one talking about this? Surely means it’s being dropped Friday I can imagine the news headlines: "Guns n' Roses fails AGAIN to release a song the fans haven't already heard" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caedo Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 49 minutes ago, allwaystired said: Because we already have it? In horseshit quality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Just now, Caedo said: In horseshit quality I'm not sure I hold out much faith it will be in any better quality! Glad it looks like these comedians have managed to figure out that a crackling 7" vinyl only might not be the best way to go in 2023 though! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batatadoce Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 just heard it, doesn't sound much different from the leak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimiRose Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, batatadoce said: just heard it, doesn't sound much different from the leak Where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batatadoce Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, JimiRose said: Where? https://radiko.jp/share/?sid=CROSSFM&t=20231125210000 I also made a recording, but it skipped a bit. I was trying to make another, but my vpn does not seem to be cooperating. Edited November 27, 2023 by batatadoce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethalis Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Blackstar said: Izzy in 1998: Stradlin' also revealed that two years ago he sent Axl about 18 songs, which Axl wanted to use on the new GN'R album. "Then his lawyers sent me a letter, they wanted me to give Axl the rights to these songs. Fuck you! Use the songs if you want, but leave the lawyers out of this", Izzy says. Izzy is one of the founding members, most of GNR's original DNA is because of Izzy. And then they treat him like that. In Izzy's shoes I would have told them to f*ck off as well. This also makes any future collaborations unlikely unfortunately. 9 minutes ago, batatadoce said: just heard it, doesn't sound much different from the leak Stop scaring me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzalo palmese Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, batatadoce said: https://radiko.jp/share/?sid=CROSSFM&t=20231125210000 I also made a recording, but it skipped a bit. I was trying to make another, but my vpn does not seem to be cooperating. How do I do to hear that? I don't read Chinese n when press play nothing happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batatadoce Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, gonzalo palmese said: How do I do to hear that? I don't read Chinese n when press play nothing happened I'm using protonvpn, but it took me a while, having to choose from the multiple options to connect to Japan, not all of then work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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