Popular Post AxlRoseCDII Posted November 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2023 8 hours ago, JimiRose said: People listen to music on streaming platforms like eating a packet of M&Ms. you open the packet, you eat it, you throw it away. Onto the next bag. You release an album, you get CDs, Booklets, magazine and newspaper reviews, interviews (well maybe not) you get 1 or 2 singles released to build the anticipation. Then it arrives you get 14 songs. I like track 3 and 5 best, listen to them loads, you prefer track 7 and 8. after a couple weeks i think well faceless turtle loves them, let me hear them again properly, then boom they hit me, i feel that love, and the cycle continues, to the point where eventually the whole album means loads to me and now i can spend a whole hour listening to it al the way through singing every word and picking up instrumental bits i never heard before. How it flows between songs, trying to find hidden messages. One song every two years? lame as fuck. Look how hyped we were for 10 years for the general. there was a week of mass hysteria when it got leaked, then, dead. now no one gives a fuck. if that was part of an album, we'd be still bringing it up constantly with every other songs. GnR have completely fucked CD2. It should have come 2010. then it should have come 2014. then it should have come 2021 in full with slash and duff. Instead we're about to hit 2024 with only 3 songs over 3 years officially released currently. Lame as fuck Well said. It really should’ve come out in like 2004. Axl has fucked up more than any successful musician in the history of music. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimiRose Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Just now, AxlRoseCDII said: Well said. It really should’ve come out in like 2004. Axl has fucked up more than any successful musician in the history of music. this. it's beyond any logical comprehension. Madness. Imagine sitting on soul monster for 23 years it still hasn't come out, and when it does it'll probably be an unpromoted vinyl b side. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betterman Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, GNRRHCP98 said: Tbh, listening to it more, I wish “The General” was the A-side to “Monsters” instead of being the B-side to “Perhaps.” Thematically, TG and Monsters gel together… not sure if I dig it as much coupled with “Perhaps” (if that makes any sense.) Ultimately, I love all three songs, but it’s the question of the listening experience… I usually play the general, Monsters and follow with State of grace - a trio of tunes with some darker themes then Perhaps is a feel good breather after that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimiRose Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Rindmelon said: strings seem to stand out a bit more maybe, it's not hugely different. Hope this is the case for monsters too. General seemed the worse of the two mixes. Get the strings up, and slightly clean the monsters cant get me bit. and oh yeah.. RELEASE IT 11 minutes ago, GNRRHCP98 said: Tbh, listening to it more, I wish “The General” was the A-side to “Monsters” instead of being the B-side to “Perhaps.” Thematically, TG and Monsters gel together… not sure if I dig it as much coupled with “Perhaps” (if that makes any sense.) Ultimately, I love all three songs, but it’s the question of the listening experience… I've got an either better idea. Tracks 13 and 14 at the end of a new album! Edited November 27, 2023 by JimiRose 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRRHCP98 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, betterman said: I usually play the general, Monsters and follow with State of grace - a trio of tunes with some darker themes then Perhaps is a feel good breather after that I dig that… hoping SOG gets an official release at some point too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Drama Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I remember radio stations playing the leaks back in like 2006. I don’t know what laws or whatever have changed in the last 17 years though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Voodoochild Posted November 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2023 Listened to the Japan radio rip. The frogs are definitely +3db. 1 2 14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ZoSoRose Posted November 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2023 As a frog fan (I have a pet frog named Blob), I am thrilled The General has a frog solo 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 So what's the consensus? Will they put this on streaming or are they gonna be dicks about it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindmelon Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I doubt they played the leak on radio, the cd is being released in Japan so i'm not surprised it was played there first. I'm guessing this will go to streaming 1st December Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 15 minutes ago, JimiRose said: Get the strings up, and slightly clean the monsters cant get me bit. and oh yeah.. RELEASE IT You forgot to mention restoring Bucket and/or Robin's parts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real McCoy Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 The real mystery is where “Monsters” came from. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 18 minutes ago, The Real McCoy said: The real mystery is where “Monsters” came from. The quality sounds equally as bad as The General leak, on top of it being leaked at the same time, they definitely or almost certainly had the same source. Rumor has it both were intended for the vinyl, so maybe they came from the early pressings. (Not necessarily the vinyl itself) Can we tell if Bob Ludwig mastered it from the radio recording? The leaks sound unmixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 31 minutes ago, The Real McCoy said: The real mystery is where “Monsters” came from. The vinyl theory is the most obvious and likely one. It was supposed to be on there, it was taken off for quality reasons, but in the process of that happening both songs leaked as they went through someone's hands either at the pressing plant, at the label or somewhere else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betterman Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 What if Monsters gets promoted as a new GNR song for a new album? The vocals might be new too apart from the bridge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnfnr2k Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, betterman said: What if Monsters gets promoted as a new GNR song for a new album? The vocals might be new too apart from the bridge Monsters vocals are not new. They are clearly 2002-2006 vocals Edited November 27, 2023 by gnfnr2k 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 hours ago, axlweave said: Dell didn’t write the garden or yesterdays that was a combination of Axl and West Arkeen Del wrote most of the lyrics to them. See the link in my signature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRRHCP98 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 19 minutes ago, betterman said: What if Monsters gets promoted as a new GNR song for a new album? The vocals might be new too apart from the bridge IF Guns REALLY wanted to end the year with a bang, “The General” drops Friday, with an EP announcement (an EP that would, of course, have to include “Monsters.”) Have it come out in January/February… Green Day has their new studio album coming out in January, so they should definitely ride the “rock wave” while it’s there. Also, after a few listens of the radio leak, it definitely sounds cleaner than the October leak. This, to me, is the FINAL, OFFICIAL form of the formerly fabled TG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave94 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Personally I’m finding this whole “non-release” completely tedious now. It feels like forever ago I was hyped for these songs, now it’s a case of wanting to hear the final version just for curiosity’s sake rather than being genuinely excited for new music. I get the vinyl delay was “one of things”, still farcical nonetheless, but there’s no reason it couldn’t have come out digitally especially after it was played live. It’s just being held back for the sake of being held back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnuld Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Can’t listen to the Japan Radio thing. It’s says you have to be in Japan. Did anyone rip it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 3 hours ago, betterman said: What do you mean? Still a great song! Yeah, I like it for what it is for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugworth Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Sweersa said: You forgot to mention restoring Bucket and/or Robin's parts. Why would he mention it? It's obviously not happening. It's just pure fantasy. You might as well ask Bill Cosby to eat Jello Pudding Pops while listening to the song. At least that has a one in a billion shot of occurring. 1 hour ago, Sweersa said: Rumor has it both were intended for the vinyl If by rumor you mean forum fantasies, yes it's rumor. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnuld Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Ok got to hear it. Only difference is the bass. It’s definitely more thumpy for lack of a better word. Also it seems like the strings are a bit higher in the mix. I actually like the added bass. The biggest disappointment with this song is that it doesn’t have a ton of orchestra. In my mind it would because of how long and dramatic the string arrangements used to be before the shows would start back in the day 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 18 minutes ago, Slugworth said: Why would he mention it? It's obviously not happening. It's just pure fantasy. It's already happened. You can hear a little Robin in Perhaps, the beginning of the solo. And some in Absurd too. Hard Skool is up in the air. Not sure on Monsters or The General. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 28 minutes ago, Arnuld said: Ok got to hear it. Only difference is the bass. It’s definitely more thumpy for lack of a better word. Also it seems like the strings are a bit higher in the mix. I'm happy to hear that. Bass and the bit of orchestra are some of the best parts of The General, especially on the verses. It has one of my favorite Duff lines, actually. Almost doesn't sound like him Just kidding, I know it's him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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