NormisX Posted December 17, 2023 Author Share Posted December 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Trell said: Sounds alright on apple music, says apple digital master and they normally sort the clipping out Hard to believe this, because there should be same mix on all platforms and there's nothing a platform can do if handed in bad product. Anybody else have Apple music and can verify this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timoteo Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 I’ve heard zero clipping on the track. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 I haven’t noticed it either 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timoteo Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Please share an example of said clipping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jw224 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 6 hours ago, NormisX said: Hard to believe this, because there should be same mix on all platforms and there's nothing a platform can do if handed in bad product. Anybody else have Apple music and can verify this? The apple version sounds the exact same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trell Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jw224 said: The apple version sounds the exact same. Well i cant say ive heard clipping on apple music🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormisX Posted December 17, 2023 Author Share Posted December 17, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Trell said: Well i cant say ive heard clipping on apple music🤷♂️ Hearing loss usually starts with loosing the hearing in high frequancies.., and the clipping is pretty high pitched... you should be worried Edited December 17, 2023 by NormisX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timoteo Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 33 minutes ago, NormisX said: Hearing loss usually starts with loosing the hearing in high frequancies.., and the clipping is pretty high pitched... you should be worried Share an example stop gaslighting 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormisX Posted December 17, 2023 Author Share Posted December 17, 2023 18 minutes ago, timoteo said: Share an example stop gaslighting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 hour ago, timoteo said: Please share an example of said clipping In the chorus especially it is pretty audible, in particular if you listen to the kick drum hits You will hear it sound distorted, but not in an intentional way like electronic/industrial music where the drums can intentionally all sound overloaded for effect - in this case it will sound similar to if you blew out cheap speakers. "Crackling" is the best descriptive term I can use for it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trell Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 2 hours ago, NormisX said: Hearing loss usually starts with loosing the hearing in high frequancies.., and the clipping is pretty high pitched... you should be worried Hahahaha thanks mate😅 maybe invest in some decent headphones and actually listen to the apple music version. Sounds like youre just hating on it cos you dont like the song 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Trell said: Hahahaha thanks mate😅 maybe invest in some decent headphones and actually listen to the apple music version. Sounds like youre just hating on it cos you dont like the song I do have to chime in just because I did some listening this weekend - the Apple Music version is the same verbatim mastering as what I have heard via the Quobuz 24-Bit/48 kHz high resolution version, clipping and all All digital versions are sourced from the same mastering - I can't speak to what was pressed on wax on the vinyl single but all digital versions - be it streaming, or digital download, all have the same mastering and flaws due to the loudness-wars liberal use of limiting and bringing the audio past the dB threshold to induce clipping Edited December 17, 2023 by WhazUp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betterman Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 I dont really hear it (Spotify) and I have heard it on several tracks from other artists. Maybe im going deaf ate somebody is exaggerating 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, betterman said: I dont really hear it (Spotify) and I have heard it on several tracks from other artists. Maybe im going deaf ate somebody is exaggerating With headphones try listening to specifically the drum fill that occurs at 1:28ish to 1:30 that brings the first chorus to an end - you will hear some light crackles/popping noises that bounce around the stereo image due to the drums. While I can hear it throughout the duration of the song, to me this is one of the more prevalent examples Edited December 17, 2023 by WhazUp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormisX Posted December 17, 2023 Author Share Posted December 17, 2023 30 minutes ago, Trell said: Hahahaha thanks mate😅 maybe invest in some decent headphones and actually listen to the apple music version. Sounds like youre just hating on it cos you dont like the song 1) I love the song and that's the reason why I hate the way mix sounds... it could be so much better with decent mix and master. Just listen to it back to back with any other properly mixed track 2) Apple version is the same as on other digital platforms 3) I think my 2 sets of studio monitors or Senheiser headphones are just fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAxlMorrison Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 8 hours ago, betterman said: I dont really hear it (Spotify) and I have heard it on several tracks from other artists. Maybe im going deaf ate somebody is exaggerating Either exaggerating or flat out making up another reason to bitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucketEgg Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) I can still hear clipping occasionally after I've turned it off (maybe my laptop speakers are just bad since it's an old one), but if you're on a laptop, make sure to turn off any of that weird speaker-audio-enhancer software that's bundled with laptops. Maybe the mix will still sound terrible (i don't have a good ear for that stuff), but it will make it sound less bad. (e.g. my laptop has this dolby audio setting that was automatically enabled. It's different for each laptop depending on what was bundled with it. Top is the official General recorded from youtube with it enabled. Middle is the official General release from youtube with it disabled. Bottom was the leaker's file.) If you're listening to it on Spotify, make sure to find the normalisation setting and turn it off. Some Swifties were complaining the Taylor's versions were mixed terribly, but then after finding that setting and turning it off, it sounded better. https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/this-spotify-hack-transformed-my-music-thanks-to-taylor-swift Edited December 18, 2023 by BucketEgg removing excessive whitespace 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, JAxlMorrison said: Either exaggerating or flat out making up another reason to bitch. Clipping always bugged me no matter what band - Vapor Trails by Rush for example suffers the same fate in its original mix as does 10,000 Days by Tool at various points in its mix/mastering I don't think it is controversial to make the suggestion that overuse of compression and pushing everything into the red in the mastering phase is not a pleasant trend in music since the 90s Edited December 18, 2023 by WhazUp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormisX Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 4 hours ago, BucketEgg said: I can still hear clipping occasionally after I've turned it off (maybe my laptop speakers are just bad since it's an old one), but if you're on a laptop, make sure to turn off any of that weird speaker-audio-enhancer software that's bundled with laptops. Maybe the mix will still sound terrible (i don't have a good ear for that stuff), but it will make it sound less bad. (e.g. my laptop has this dolby audio setting that was automatically enabled. It's different for each laptop depending on what was bundled with it. Top is the official General recorded from youtube with it enabled. Middle is the official General release from youtube with it disabled. Bottom was the leaker's file.) If you're listening to it on Spotify, make sure to find the normalisation setting and turn it off. Some Swifties were complaining the Taylor's versions were mixed terribly, but then after finding that setting and turning it off, it sounded better. https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/this-spotify-hack-transformed-my-music-thanks-to-taylor-swift Makes no difference... mix is just clipping like crazy, because... well, it's mixed like that. Mind boggling how can someone approve release of this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmus1 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 On 12/17/2023 at 6:50 AM, NormisX said: Hard to believe this, because there should be same mix on all platforms and there's nothing a platform can do if handed in bad product. Anybody else have Apple music and can verify this? Not true for The General but this is true sometimes. Death Magnetic had to be remastered without clipping for Apple Music, but all other streaming services still have the original. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormisX Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 hour ago, bmus1 said: Not true for The General but this is true sometimes. Death Magnetic had to be remastered without clipping for Apple Music, but all other streaming services still have the original. Didn't know this... so Apple just said to Metallica - we won't put this shit on our site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmus1 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 5 hours ago, NormisX said: Didn't know this... so Apple just said to Metallica - we won't put this shit on our site? Yup exactly. I’m assuming this was done pretty quietly to avoid Metallica admitting they fucked up, but I hope they quietly release the new masters on other services eventually. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timoteo Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 On 12/17/2023 at 11:08 AM, NormisX said: Ahhh the gaslighting continues!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 10 hours ago, bmus1 said: Not true for The General but this is true sometimes. Death Magnetic had to be remastered without clipping for Apple Music, but all other streaming services still have the original. Wait, wait, wait, hold up. Are you saying that Metallica released an album with clipping to a streaming services? That they were on the same level of incompetency as GN'R? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jw224 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 9 hours ago, SoulMonster said: Wait, wait, wait, hold up. Are you saying that Metallica released an album with clipping to a streaming services? That they were on the same level of incompetency as GN'R? Yes and people complained about it just like people are complaining about it now with gnr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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