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Don't lose yourself. Tom Zutaut rightfully had the tracks; he was the producer.

Any other artist's producer losing their boss' work to the point of it leaking online would be absurd. Somehow GNR managed to convince us the problem was actually on the people who found it. 

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I wouldn't be surprised if something behind closed doors is happening to Tom Zutaut. From working in corporate, I've learned that  things are usually handled out of public when dealing with a current or former executive. 

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3 minutes ago, ManetsBR said:

Don't lose yourself. Tom Zutaut rightfully had the tracks; he was the producer.

Any other artist's producer losing their boss' work to the point of it leaking online would be absurd. Somehow GNR managed to convince us the problem was actually on the people who found it. 

The whole thing is insane. Zutaut left the music in some storage located in Virginia for I don't know how long. The bills of the starage were not paid. So everything went up in an auction. How come Axl, TB and maybe previous managers didn't do anything about before?

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6 minutes ago, ManetsBR said:

Don't lose yourself. Tom Zutaut rightfully had the tracks; he was the producer.

He wasn't the producer; Roy Thomas Baker was the producer at that time. Tom Zutaut was like an outside executive/coordinator or something like that.

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Well, still. He wasn't the album producer but he was still Axl's producer, Axl's production adviser or whatever. He rightfully had the music. 

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2 minutes ago, ManetsBR said:

Well, still. He wasn't the album producer but he was still Axl's producer, Axl's production adviser or whatever. He rightfully had the music. 

He didn't have the rights on it, obviously. The label and Axl did.

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1 minute ago, Blackstar said:

He didn't have the rights on it, obviously. The label and Axl did.

They didn't give a shit about it until now. That's the point! How come they didn't know that Zutaut sent 20cds of music to some storage locker in Virginia? 

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I'm not saying he had the rights to the songs. When I say he got them rightfully I mean he didn't get it the "wrong" way. 

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17 minutes ago, ManetsBR said:

I'm not saying he had the rights to the songs. When I say he got them rightfully I mean he didn't get it the "wrong" way. 

People who work with artists have access to material all of the time. That’s how they do their job. In this case, he rightfully had session mixes he was listening to give feedback

He obviously kept kept them and unless he was told to return them, they are his. He just can’t distribute them.

Thing is this. If you work in the industry, you don’t let that stuff get out. You won’t find work again and it’s a good way to burn bridges.
 

So either Zutant is done working in that field, so he doesn’t care about that issue, the relationships are so frayed that it doesn’t matter to him where that stuff ends up, and/or he just plain forgot to pay his bills and had an expired card/old phone number/email attached to the locker 

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4 hours ago, RussTCB said:

It just seems so odd that TMZ is running this now. 

There's literally no new information in the main article. The "response" from management isn't even anything new. That's not a shot at TB, but its just nothing new is all. 

It's just very, very odd to me that TMZ would choose to run this months and months after it seemed to be over. 

Slow news day perhaps? 

Or the start of promos for the march album...

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4 hours ago, sofine11 said:

Not a terribly good look for the band.  They should be suing Tom Zutaut, not a diehard fan.

Might wanna counter this with some positive news. ::AHEM::

Agree, i think that Zutaut is the responsible principal about it, poor Rick, he is the most weak link :max:

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4 hours ago, Lio said:

So Rick getting 15k was the truth and Zutaut auctioned the stuff off himself?

How come they quote a rep in the beginning and at the end they say reps don't wish to comment?

I noted it too, it article is a bit contradictory.

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4 hours ago, RussTCB said:

It just seems so odd that TMZ is running this now. 

There's literally no new information in the main article. The "response" from management isn't even anything new. That's not a shot at TB, but its just nothing new is all. 

It's just very, very odd to me that TMZ would choose to run this months and months after it seemed to be over. 

Slow news day perhaps? 

My guess is that UMG has begun to seriously pursue the case against Rick and, potentially, Tom.  In response, Rick probably ran to TMZ and gave them his C&D letter as background info to fight the case in the spotlight.

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Yeah it’s better for Rick that the media turns Axl into the bad guy in this situation, regardless of how everything went down 

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Just now, RussTCB said:

Who would start promoting an album by making big news out of suing a "superfan"? 

 

Oh, that's right, this is GN'R we're talking about lol

I would like to think TB would outsource promotions and marketing for a new album to UMG's communications department, lol.

But yeah, as you say, there is no way in hell that this is the beginning of the promotions for a new album. 

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I feel that Rick is a little naive, and himself put in the wolf mouth, sadly.

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It's weird that TMZ didn't change the headline once they received an official response from GNR's camp. The article really doesn't mention that GNR are suing Dunsford, really. GNR's response seems to place the blame squarely with Zutaut.

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4 hours ago, alfierose said:

Were there comments on the article at one point? The icon at the top shows 471 comments but underneath says comments not available. Did they get shut off?

I can see the comments and they're brutal. Talking about Axl being late still.

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Tom Zutaut attended one of the festival shows last autumn. I wonder what went down there and if he talked with anyone.

It's also worth reminding that Zutaut has said that his ousting from the project back then was due to a setup by people around Axl who didn't want him there (implying Beta probably). So TB and Zutaut don't like each other, to put it mildly.

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I very much doubt Zutaut auctioned off anything to anyone. The original story of the locker going into default makes a lot more sense. 

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33 minutes ago, GnR Chris said:

I can see the comments and they're brutal. Talking about Axl being late still.

That's not so much brutal as it is uninformed. 

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32 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

Tom Zutaut attended one of the festival shows last autumn. I wonder what went down there and if he talked with anyone.

It's also worth reminding that Zutaut has said that his ousting from the project back then was due to a setup by people around Axl who didn't want him there (implying Beta probably). So TB and Zutaut don't like each other, to put it mildly.

TB's MO not axls 

is to cut everyone out from his pre 91 life 

meegan is a threat 

erin is a threat

slash is a threat 

izzy and canter are a big threat 

zutaut is a threat 

niven is an inconvenient reminding threat 

goldstein is a loser 

adler is not a threat hes a nippy dog 

even duff is a threat if he didn't share the same 100% greed trait with them 

stephanie is a question mark ? they must think well its how we met him and axl loves her like an enigma so maybe shes in some other weird category

TB want to take credit for axl's success as in him being gigantically successful b/c of their involvement in his life post 91 and all they have to show for it is some bichy little argument about some stolen bunk CD's from a stupid highschool changing room locker 

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