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1 hour ago, Graeme said:

Yeah, what was with all the brown? Brown furniture as well, that's the impression I get looking back at photos and TV shows...

yeah i grew up with brown furnishings with 'subtle' accents of bright orange:facepalm: also we had purple wallpaper with massive patterns on in our hall.

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Really great horror films too.  Not as formulaic as the 80's.  More social commentary like in Dawn of the Dead and Eraserhead.  The expression of anxiety in Carrie, The Exorcist, The Omen, The Wicker Man and Alien is so dense.  And there were genre-defining pieces like Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Halloween and The Hills Have Eyes.

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3 hours ago, Graeme said:

Yeah, what was with all the brown? Brown furniture as well, that's the impression I get looking back at photos and TV shows...

I Googled this, and in short, it was a response to the psychedelia of the 1960s. The political landscape shifted and wearing bright colours and flowing shapes seemed inappropriate in wartime. 


My reflection: the bell bottomed trousers evolved into flares, light fabrics such as chiffon and crepes were replaced with more durable cottons, denim and corduroy, much in the same way  wartime rationing encouraged make do and mend. Trends repeat themselves every 20 years, and the '70s could have been cookie-cutter 1950s, however this was post sexual revolution, post second-wave feminism. I suppose rock music changed in a similar way from the simple 50s, through the experimental 60s to the 70s when "heavy metal" (as it was known) originated. 

If you're interested, I got this answer from a brilliantly detailed Reddit post. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1b3pqx/does_anyone_really_know_why_brown_and_orange_were/

 

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26 minutes ago, Gracii Guns said:

I Googled this, and in short, it was a response to the psychedelia of the 1960s. The political landscape shifted and wearing bright colours and flowing shapes seemed inappropriate in wartime. 


My reflection: the bell bottomed trousers evolved into flares, light fabrics such as chiffon and crepes were replaced with more durable cottons, denim and corduroy, much in the same way  wartime rationing encouraged make do and mend. Trends repeat themselves every 20 years, and the '70s could have been cookie-cutter 1950s, however this was post sexual revolution, post second-wave feminism. I suppose rock music changed in a similar way from the simple 50s, through the experimental 60s to the 70s when "heavy metal" (as it was known) originated. 

If you're interested, I got this answer from a brilliantly detailed Reddit post. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1b3pqx/does_anyone_really_know_why_brown_and_orange_were/

 

I did the same ;). Interesting, isn't it?

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On 8/27/2017 at 11:21 AM, RussTCB said:

For real? I'm a fan of a lot of technical advances but I really think the record store & concert culture in the 70s far exceeds what we have now. I'd gladly giving portable digital music to get all that culture back.

I can find 10 bands similar to the band I like and listen to most of their discographies without leaving my couch, or having to deal with snooty music snob clerks. I never felt more ripped off than Rolling Stone or whatever magazine hyping up some band, paying whatever cd or cassettes cost in my era, taking it home, and being thoroughly disappointed. And you had to do that one or a couple of albums at a time.

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11 minutes ago, moreblack said:

I can find 10 bands similar to the band I like and listen to most of their discographies without leaving my couch, or having to deal with snooty music snob clerks. I never felt more ripped off than Rolling Stone or whatever magazine hyping up some band, paying whatever cd or cassettes cost in my era, taking it home, and being thoroughly disappointed. And you had to do that one or a couple of albums at a time.

I hear you overall but I'm really big into the whole culture of the music scene, so I think it's kind of the opposite for me.

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17 hours ago, Fitha_whiskey said:

The Hamburglar used to scare the absolute goddamn shit outta me when I was a kid. Seriously, these commercials gave me nightmares. Seeing them again now, I'm not surprised! :lol:

 

Never saw this, and now Ill be having nightmares!

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On ‎27‎/‎08‎/‎2017 at 8:12 AM, Georgy Zhukov said:

Any decade is better than the 2000's. 

the 2000's were an absolute borefest. I blame 9/11; people were hesitant to enjoy themselves for a very long time afterwards. music, movies, video games... it all started to become less interesting, less risky, less enjoyable after 9/11.

games and movies were postponed / altered as a direct consequence of the attacks. afraid to be too enjoyable / violent or whatever.

has there been any great rock album after 9/11 with attitude? i dont think so. it just wasn't fitting anymore to be a rock band with attitude. it was "not done" to swear and talk about sex and drugs. ignorance and naivity were the main themes of music after 9/11.

 with male singers we got the "james blunt syndrome": singers who all sound the same and turned to a boring, serene singing style. to this day, every singer either sounds like james blunt or rihanna / adele.

in movies, terminator 3 was an utter disapointment with kate brewster and that sorry excuse for a john connor. i can't name a single memorable movie from 00 onwards.

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I think everythings shite personally.  People canonize the 90s and the 80s now, i was fuckin' there and they were shite as well, everythings shite really...cuz whatever we got we always want better, don't we?  I can't imagine the 70s was that fuckin' great.  I mean I understand its great in a sense how like, the way my old man says its great but it's about missing your childhood really innit.  Everythings a load of fuckin' bollocks. 

It's the sunshine hour! :D

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In the '60s, Pepper, Pet Sounds, Blonde On Blonde hitting the shelves there was certainly some miserable gits going, ''fucking shite this, not a patch on Presley''. In fact that would be me probably me. I bet there were some boxing fans saying ''1970s boxers are shite'' and ''couldn't last one second in the ring with Marciano''. Same with the golden age of cricket; some 1910 crusty old general saying, ''Frank Woolley and Maurice Tate are fuckin shit compared to WG Grace''.

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6 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

In the '60s, Pepper, Pet Sounds, Blonde On Blonde hitting the shelves there was certainly some miserable gits going, ''fucking shite this, not a patch on Presley''. In fact that would be me probably me. I bet there were some boxing fans saying ''1970s boxers are shite'' and ''couldn't last one second in the ring with Marciano''. Same with the golden age of cricket; some 1910 crusty old general saying, ''Frank Woolley and Maurice Tate are fuckin shit compared to WG Grace''.

There's people now looking at the 60s shit saying it weren't a patch on original rock n roll (though you have named some odd albums there!).  Boxing fans most definitely were, there's footage of em, they thought of Ali as a runner. 

But even outside of that, normal life etc, it's easy sitting here and saying this that and the other about what life was like back then but like, all this cultural revolution etc, it happened for a reason, cuz things were pretty fuckin' grim.  Fuckin' pubs shutting early, lack of variety in food, not a lot in the way of entertainment, 2/3 telly channels, everythings basically shut after 5 or 6 on a Saturday.  And the fuckin' repressed nature of society is something worth pointing out.  For as much as is made of cultural revolution and long hair and all that, the vast majority of society, your general working class and that, thought people like that were a bunch of poofs.  It was also a lot easier to get your head kicked in them days. 

Like i said, everythings shite really.

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1 minute ago, Len Cnut said:

There's people now looking at the 60s shit saying it weren't a patch on original rock n roll (though you have named some odd albums there!).  Boxing fans most definitely were, there's footage of em, they thought of Ali as a runner. 

But even outside of that, normal life etc, it's easy sitting here and saying this that and the other about what life was like back then but like, all this cultural revolution etc, it happened for a reason, cuz things were pretty fuckin' grim.  Fuckin' pubs shutting early, lack of variety in food, not a lot in the way of entertainment, 2/3 telly channels, everythings basically shut after 5 or 6 on a Saturday.  And the fuckin' repressed nature of society is something worth pointing out.  For as much as is made of cultural revolution and long hair and all that, the vast majority of society, your general working class and that, thought people like that were a bunch of poofs.  It was also a lot easier to get your head kicked in them days. 

Like i said, everythings shite really.

I do not quite agree with the television one. Yes, they had two-three channels there but now we have a hundred channels of absolute shit. There were some seminal television made then. The standard of documentaries was far higher: The Great War, Kenneth Clarke's Civilisation and The World At War - albeit the latter is early 1970s. Then there is Z-Cars, Ironside, Avengers. Now we have Love Island, Big Brother and some documentary on five about a child with a penis on his head - oh yes, documentaries which follow debt-collectors around requisitioning people's possessions! Sport and the odd documentary and I simply wouldn't watch television.

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7 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

I do not quite agree with the television one. Yes, they had two-three channels there but now we have a hundred channels of absolute shit. There were some seminal television made then. The standard of documentaries was far higher: The Great War, Kenneth Clarke's Civilisation and The World At War - albeit the latter is early 1970s. Then there is Z-Cars, Ironside, Avengers. Now we have Love Island, Big Brother and some documentary on five about a child with a penis on his head - oh yes, documentaries which follow debt-collectors around requisitioning people's possessions! Sport and the odd documentary and I simply wouldn't watch television.

For all the Z Cars and Ironsides and Avengers (again, funny picks cuz thats hardly the heights of 70s telly but I guess thats more to do with what you go for) you've got to bear in mind that there was a LOT of telly in the 70s, so much of the shows are just completely forgotten because they were absolute shite.  The reason there was so much more decent TV shows produced, in terms of dramas and sitcoms, is because there was just so many dramas and sitcoms being produced, the same can't be said for today, though there is more telly it's not really telly in the sense of dramas and sitcoms or whatever, its the aforementioned bollocks you outlined.  And gameshows, Christ, I'd rather eat my own nuts than watch gameshows and the 70s was fuckin' well into em.  People like Bruce Forsyth and Jimmy Tarbuck and them, its fuckin' awful. 

And look at British Cinema in the 70s...for all the Get Carters there was a great deal more of Confessions of a Window Cleaner (which i love but thats by the by :lol: ) and like...feature length versions of sitcoms.

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1 hour ago, Len Cnut said:

For all the Z Cars and Ironsides and Avengers (again, funny picks cuz thats hardly the heights of 70s telly but I guess thats more to do with what you go for) you've got to bear in mind that there was a LOT of telly in the 70s, so much of the shows are just completely forgotten because they were absolute shite.  The reason there was so much more decent TV shows produced, in terms of dramas and sitcoms, is because there was just so many dramas and sitcoms being produced, the same can't be said for today, though there is more telly it's not really telly in the sense of dramas and sitcoms or whatever, its the aforementioned bollocks you outlined.  And gameshows, Christ, I'd rather eat my own nuts than watch gameshows and the 70s was fuckin' well into em.  People like Bruce Forsyth and Jimmy Tarbuck and them, its fuckin' awful. 

And look at British Cinema in the 70s...for all the Get Carters there was a great deal more of Confessions of a Window Cleaner (which i love but thats by the by :lol: ) and like...feature length versions of sitcoms.

I was more referring to the sixties really however, yes there was cack on in both those decades however, if two-three channels could show The Sweeney or Starsky and Hutch and we have 100s of channels which can only show continuous unadulterated excrement, what does that say?

Have you noticed how British people collectively go mad about one show. Before it was Downton Abbey whereas now it is that baking show with that bloke with a goatee.

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I much prefer Steptoe and Son and Til Death Us Do Part, or even those teleplays they did in them days.  Cathy Come Home was first put on as a teleplay I believe but again thats 60s.  Looking back at Til Death Us Do Part I see some of the most powerful post war satire I can think of.  And its powerful to this day, as evidenced by the attempts to write it out of history.  The best satire takes us from our comfort zones and forces us to look at ourselves and it still has that power to this day.

The baking one must've escaped me but the name at least of Downton Abbey rings a bell, I think my sister watches it.

But yeah, that mass hysteria thing exists, I think its more for birds whoose youth is rapidly escaping them or else is long gone.  Back in the day it was serialised versions of Pride and Prejudice starring Colin Firth.

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7 hours ago, action said:

the 2000's were an absolute borefest. I blame 9/11; people were hesitant to enjoy themselves for a very long time afterwards. music, movies, video games... it all started to become less interesting, less risky, less enjoyable after 9/11.

games and movies were postponed / altered as a direct consequence of the attacks. afraid to be too enjoyable / violent or whatever.

has there been any great rock album after 9/11 with attitude? i dont think so. it just wasn't fitting anymore to be a rock band with attitude. it was "not done" to swear and talk about sex and drugs. ignorance and naivity were the main themes of music after 9/11.

 with male singers we got the "james blunt syndrome": singers who all sound the same and turned to a boring, serene singing style. to this day, every singer either sounds like james blunt or rihanna / adele.

in movies, terminator 3 was an utter disapointment with kate brewster and that sorry excuse for a john connor. i can't name a single memorable movie from 00 onwards.

 

Yeah everything became cute and PG-13. I don't recall a single use of the world "fuck" on Chinese Democracy. Axl was the master of the word. 

 

Fucking terrorists turned us into pussies.

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13 minutes ago, Georgy Zhukov said:

 

 I don't recall a single use of the world "fuck" on Chinese Democracy. Axl was the master of the word. 

 

 

I never noticed the but I think you're right.  Axl also made Bucket stop watching porn as he tracked guitars saying 'thats not the vibe he wants to put into this album.'  So Axl was one the mater of the word "fuck" and he was also once a pornogrpher in RQ.  So much changed.

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1 hour ago, soon said:

I never noticed the but I think you're right.  Axl also made Bucket stop watching porn as he tracked guitars saying 'thats not the vibe he wants to put into this album.'  So Axl was one the mater of the word "fuck" and he was also once a pornogrpher in RQ.  So much changed.

 

Axl, who fucked Steve's girlfriend during the recording of Rocket Queen, said he doesn't want a porno vibe on his new album. 

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