TheFormerSoul Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 (edited) With the removal of a very large amount of concerts, fan vids, and general performances as of late, one can’t help but speculate if this is the way things are going to continue in the future for all things GNR. I don’t want this topic to seem like an overreaction, but consider the silence of the camp (amidst a few taunting jeers from gnr staff on Twitter.) as a statement in itself on how the band and management are handling the censorship that is rampant online. Consider The Eagles deal on copyright. Almost every live concert, and fan videos taken at the venues are the most part, nowhere to be found. Why? Simply because The Eagles don’t want it up there. Good luck finding their music online at all. You will need to buy the albums. Imagine if someday GNR release more music with a similar approach to censorship. GNR could release another nauseatingly expensive new box set containing leftovers from Chinese Democracy part 2, and maybe live performances of NITL, of which people could have in the past easily found uploaded to YouTube already. Unfortunately, you have to pay the piper his $1,000 bucks to hear Axl sing live in 2016.. If this sounds far fetched remember when Axl wanted all unflattering photos of him to be removed from the internet? Edited August 8, 2018 by TheFormerSoul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waemoth Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 That's fine by me, though I'd obviously hate to see it happen. As long as they explain why they're doing it, and take responsibility, that is. Their music, their choice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tadsy Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 I’m probably not as disappointed as others because I kinda get what they are trying to do. What annoys me is, they don’t release anything. For instance, my favourite period of watching this band is the illusions period, and we have 1 DVD release from over 200 shows. When Saskatoon leaked I was stoked, but on the contrary, if they’d have released it for $25 bucks a pop with some special features then I’d pay it... happily. Thats where i get the shits... it literally makes no sense to do what they’re doing. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmt Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Maybe the band feels like they had a successful tour, got the fans money, now fuck them. Their past history should tell everyone everything they want to know about the band in terms of fan appreciation. On the flip side, the band deserves to be compensated for their work and as stated above, it is their music and their choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 (edited) How well served by archival live releases are The Eagles? PS I'm not one to contradict you but I just pulled up Eagles' bootlegs within 30 seconds of looking. Edited August 8, 2018 by DieselDaisy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyman Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 It would be a weird step for a band that once encouraged its listeners to borrow an album from a friend and copy it so that they wouldn't have to buy two separate albums 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patiencepatience Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 (edited) Are you all under the impression that GNR owns all of the rights to their music, videos, and related media? Edited March 30, 2021 by patiencepatience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 4 hours ago, TheFormerSoul said: With the removal of a very large amount of concerts, fan vids, and general performances as of late, one can’t help but speculate if this is the way things are going to continue in the future for all things GNR. Well I guess for me the question would be, if it wasn't for the main two knuckleheads behind the takedowns existing, would the videos still be taken down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Crazyman said: It would be a weird step for a band that once encouraged its listeners to borrow an album from a friend and copy it so that they wouldn't have to buy two separate albums yeah i thought the same too but then i looked again at the current band and i noticed it is not the same band, these are actually hosts from west(hollywood)world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 6 hours ago, TheFormerSoul said: With the removal of a very large amount of concerts, fan vids, and general performances as of late, one can’t help but speculate if this is the way things are going to continue in the future for all things GNR. I don’t want this topic to seem like an overreaction, but consider the silence of the camp (amidst a few taunting jeers from gnr staff on Twitter.) as a statement in itself on how the band and management are handling the censorship that is rampant online. Consider The Eagles deal on copyright. Almost every live concert, and fan videos taken at the venues are the most part, nowhere to be found. Why? Simply because The Eagles don’t want it up there. Good luck finding their music online at all. You will need to buy the albums. Imagine if someday GNR release more music with a similar approach to censorship. GNR could release another nauseatingly expensive new box set containing leftovers from Chinese Democracy part 2, and maybe live performances of NITL, of which people could have in the past easily found uploaded to YouTube already. Unfortunately, you have to pay the piper his $1,000 bucks to hear Axl sing live in 2016.. If this sounds far fetched remember when Axl wanted all unflattering photos of him to be removed from the internet? If put out high quality releases at a fair price your fans will buy them, no matter how many mediocre quality youtube vids there are. Guns n' Roses barely puts out anything at all and the things they do put out (L&L) are horribly overpriced and not meant for a broader audience. So basically, fuck them. Release some actual music instead of bothering with this shit and bugging your undeservingly loyal fanbase, Team Complaints. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juventino Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 7 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: How well served by archival live releases are The Eagles? PS I'm not one to contradict you but I just pulled up Eagles' bootlegs within 30 seconds of looking. Yeah, I've been listening to a fair bit of Eagles lately and at work have been able to go on YouTube and listen to random bootlegs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarpatch Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Crazyman said: It would be a weird step for a band that once encouraged its listeners to borrow an album from a friend and copy it so that they wouldn't have to buy two separate albums Let’s be honest and say they released 2 albums separately so that you had to buy 2 separate releases, Geffen could fudge numbers with more breakage & promo, and that made more $ instead of bundling together for less. That line was BS if Duff believed it or not I think it would be a disservice to their continued long term success if they took that stance on uploads. My guess they will continue the current policy of more or less hands off on fan recordings. The demos and leaks may be another issue all together Edited August 8, 2018 by guitarpatch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevergotochurch Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 I'm confused, as there is a ton of Eagles stuff on youtube, live and studio. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gnfnrs1972 Posted August 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2018 If I sounded like Mickey Mouse live I wouldn't want videos on the internet either. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Jaro- Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Within 10 secs i found full greatest hits album on youtube uploaded ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR87 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 18 hours ago, TheFormerSoul said: Good luck finding their music online at all. You will need to buy the albums. That’s not a bad thing, you shouldn’t be downloading music illegally to begin with. I wish that was the problem with gnr because then they wouldn’t look like a bunch of ridiculous assholes but it isn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stress Fracture Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Prince was the same IIRC. His massive body of work basically had no online presence outside of illegal sites until his death. Hell, some of his albums were deleted physically too. Yes, I see Axl going down this route. It’s surprising it took this long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
©GnrPersia Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 (edited) Removal of not only bootlegs but ALL material from the face of internet is FINE by me as long as they release shit load of music, past concert vids etc accessible through Nightrain membership. But if you're gonna wipe out fanmade stuff and leave me with nothing instead, my mid finger to you. And as I said before, this whole noobish way of handling the situation looks suspiciously familiar to me. It's as much similar and unprofessional as coming to this very forum and tell the fans what to do or say. Greetings from Dubai @Fernando ;-) Edited August 9, 2018 by ©GnrPersia 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoNobodyToldYaBaby Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 OP The Eagles are on Spotify too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Well you’ve had a good run of it gettin’ your gear for free, you’ll just have to learn to live with it I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 On 8/8/2018 at 7:39 AM, Juventino said: Yeah, I've been listening to a fair bit of Eagles lately and at work have been able to go on YouTube and listen to random bootlegs. On 8/8/2018 at 9:07 AM, nevergotochurch said: I'm confused, as there is a ton of Eagles stuff on youtube, live and studio. 19 hours ago, -Jaro- said: Within 10 secs i found full greatest hits album on youtube uploaded ... This is all correct. What are we missing here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juventino Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, RussTCB said: This is all correct. What are we missing here? From doing some reading it seems they do - or try to, anyway - crack down on things uploaded online, but it doesn't seem to be close to say, what Prince was doing when he was alive. Edited August 9, 2018 by Juventino fixed an error 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAR41 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 9 hours ago, ©GnrPersia said: Removal of not only bootlegs but ALL material from the face of internet is FINE by me as long as they release shit load of music, past concert vids etc accessible through Nightrain membership. I suggested this several times when I was a member of NT. Make it worth it for me to pay money for a membership. Random shitty contests, presale access to a shitty set of tickets and a shitty forum with mostly shitty people doesn’t do it for me. You’ve got an entire catalog of unreleased professionally recorded concerts. This isn’t hard! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
©GnrPersia Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, WAR41 said: I suggested this several times when I was a member of NT. Make it worth it for me to pay money for a membership. Random shitty contests, presale access to a shitty set of tickets and a shitty forum with mostly shitty people doesn’t do it for me. You’ve got an entire catalog of unreleased professionally recorded concerts. This isn’t hard! Agree with all specially the shitty people part. Been there and seen the biggest flatters and ass kissers. Even kissing DJ Ashba's ass :-)))) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.