ryanf23 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 7 hours ago, axlvai said: Its is in this old bootleg @ryanf23 cmon! Super known. Very good btw. https://www.discogs.com/es/release/3641097-Use-Your-Illusion-Outtakes/images That’s not an alternate vocal take. That’s a rough mix. That’s why I was confused by your comment. The version on that bootleg sounds almost identical to the album version. The coma demo is a complete different vocal take and I was hoping you were saying there is a different vocal take on Don’t Damn Me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but what's with the supposed secracy around these? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTJ80 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, RussTCB said: I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but what's with the supposed secracy around these? That’s what I want to know! What’s different about these to all the other leaks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaolin Punk Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 18 minutes ago, RussTCB said: I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but what's with the supposed secracy around these? From what I know this was part of a power play between some people infighting and someone leaked these clips as a result, which may have an effect on the full tracks becoming available, hence the hush hush nature of it... But they're out there now so who knows what will happen next! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, DTJ80 said: That’s what I want to know! What’s different about these to all the other leaks? 3 minutes ago, Shaolin Punk said: From what I know this was part of a power play between some people infighting and someone leaked these clips as a result, which may have an effect on the full tracks becoming available, hence the hush hush nature of it... But they're out there now so who knows what will happen next! Gotcha. Seems like there's always so much cloak & dagger going on with GNR tracks. It's crazy to me how a band with so little output can still have unheard stuff from the early days. Oh well, I appreciate the info. Here's hoping more stuff for us to listen to comes out 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, RussTCB said: Gotcha. Seems like there's always so much cloak & dagger going on with GNR tracks. It's crazy to me how a band with so little output can still have unheard stuff from the early days. Oh well, I appreciate the info. Here's hoping more stuff for us to listen to comes out I always take great amusement from trying to explain some of the machinations around things like this to people I know. They are always incredulous and think it's the most childish and pathetic thing they've ever heard! Then you ALWAYS get the question "well, why don't the band just release this stuff themselves?" to which there is absolutely no answer. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaolin Punk Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, RussTCB said: Gotcha. Seems like there's always so much cloak & dagger going on with GNR tracks. It's crazy to me how a band with so little output can still have unheard stuff from the early days. Oh well, I appreciate the info. Here's hoping more stuff for us to listen to comes out So true, man! It's only second hand info from some lurking on my part, but that's how it seems to be - but hey, if it gets us some unheard UYI outtakes/Mixes/Anything, then I'll be a happy bunny! When i heard the Coma clip i was stoked and hopeful for more of the vaulted/hoarder stuff to come out! Fingers crossed hey! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOUCOULDBEMINE. Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Is it worth checking this out or should I wait for full tracks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyWoodRose84 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, UcudBmine said: Is it worth checking this out or should I wait for full tracks? Wait 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Is this the Coma demo with Adler drumming? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTJ80 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 24 minutes ago, HollyWoodRose84 said: Wait Anything else you can add to this? Are you confident they WILL leak? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlvai Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 3 hours ago, ryanf23 said: That’s not an alternate vocal take. That’s a rough mix. That’s why I was confused by your comment. The version on that bootleg sounds almost identical to the album version. The coma demo is a complete different vocal take and I was hoping you were saying there is a different vocal take on Don’t Damn Me. You need to hear Dont damn me again from that bootleg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnr5 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 47 minutes ago, allwaystired said: Is this the Coma demo with Adler drumming? No, the music is what's on UYI. The lyrics is the only thing different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, gnr5 said: No, the music is what's on UYI. The lyrics is the only thing different. Thanks. That demo remains elusive, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanf23 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 hours ago, axlvai said: You need to hear Dont damn me again from that bootleg. I just did... I’m missing what you’re hearing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, ryanf23 said: I just did... I’m missing what you’re hearing There's a version of Don't Damn Me from the bootleg "Axl's Advance Copy" that has a completely different vocal take. That's probably what axlvai is thinking of... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amish Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 The reason the band doesn't put out this stuff (and this is me, if I was the one in charge) is probably for the same reason no artist wants people to hear unfinished product, especially if it's jokingly done. If you put filler lyrics in a verse to a song that's supposed to be serious, you don't want to taint the actual song by releasing the filler lyrics. Same with the music, or the rough mix, etc.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, Amish said: The reason the band doesn't put out this stuff (and this is me, if I was the one in charge) is probably for the same reason no artist wants people to hear unfinished product, especially if it's jokingly done. If you put filler lyrics in a verse to a song that's supposed to be serious, you don't want to taint the actual song by releasing the filler lyrics. Same with the music, or the rough mix, etc.. We heard the finished product some 30 years ago. I think it's time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amish Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) I used to write poetry back when I was an angsty teenager, and if someone ever saw a rough draft of anything I wrote, even if there was only one line different than the finished product, I would panic. It's hard enough showing off the finished product, nevermind showing something that you don't think is finished. Lol, it's ironic that I had to edit this. Edited November 11, 2019 by Amish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jw224 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 The chances of these leaking are practically non existent at this point tbh. The snippets leaking has probably made sure of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTJ80 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Jw224 said: The chances of these leaking are practically non existent at this point tbh. The snippets leaking has probably made sure of that. Why though? The recent past has confirmed that snippets usually lead to full leaks. Why would this be different? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTJ80 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 What’s the thoughts behind these leaks? Is Coma from one of the uncirculated UYI demos on @zombux list? More intriguing is the Roxy track. Has it been widely known there was a soundboard recording of such a gig from 86? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azifwekare Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 9 hours ago, DTJ80 said: Why though? The recent past has confirmed that snippets usually lead to full leaks. Why would this be different? There was a deal going on and these clips were the proof of existence. Because of two dumbasses from the remedial forum having a bitch fit, they got leaked before the deal was finished and the trader backed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 11 hours ago, Jw224 said: The chances of these leaking are practically non existent at this point tbh. The snippets leaking has probably made sure of that. It will come out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanf23 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Gibbo said: It will come out! Not in this lifetime... sorry, I couldn’t resist lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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