Cosmo Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 I hope the Iranian players will be fine. I fese for their safety if they return to their country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Powerage5 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Pulisic sacrificed his nuts for America. Can’t imagine a more patriotic goal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) All eyes on group C today: Argentina's gotta win Poland by an equal or bigger margin than Saudi Arabia has to win Mexico. And Mexico's out of the championship, with a historical rivalry against Argentina Edited November 30, 2022 by Cosmo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axls_Moustache_Rules Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Tunisia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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highvoltage Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 32 minutes ago, We love Axl Rose said: Amazing game!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We love Axl Rose Posted November 30, 2022 Author Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, highvoltage said: Amazing game!!! I'm glad they passed the group, i was rooting for them. Edited November 30, 2022 by We love Axl Rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Wow Argentina played so well today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axls_Moustache_Rules Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Argentina have played ok. Poland got through some how - they need to change EVERYTHING moving forward Feel sorry for Mexico but they were poor. Tonight was awesome, both games, high drama! Respect to Saudi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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We love Axl Rose Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 4 hours ago, Axls_Moustache_Rules said: Feel sorry for Mexico Same, they conceded a goal in the 95th minute that kept them from advancing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 10 hours ago, Axls_Moustache_Rules said: Argentina have played ok. Poland got through some how - they need to change EVERYTHING moving forward Feel sorry for Mexico but they were poor. Tonight was awesome, both games, high drama! Respect to Saudi Argentina played really good. Lewandowski was nowhere to be found. He needed to lead his team. He did nothing. Shame on him! I don't feel sorry for Mexico. But the amount of yellow card rule is bullshit! If there is a draw because of the amount of goals and points or whatever, then go to overtime and eventually penalty kick. The amount of yellow cards should not decide who is in and who is out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Jaro- Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Poland and Australia in knockout ohase of tournament are the 2 weakest teams I remember went that far since I watch WCs... Also, Australia fought for it, while Poland just stood and prayed for stars to align... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Padme said: Argentina played really good. Lewandowski was nowhere to be found. He needed to lead his team. He did nothing. Shame on him! I don't feel sorry for Mexico. But the amount of yellow card rule is bullshit! If there is a draw because of the amount of goals and points or whatever, then go to overtime and eventually penalty kick. The amount of yellow cards should not decide who is in and who is out. I thought this was the first game so far Argentina actually showed up to whats expected of them. This Poland is nothing to write home about but it is stronger than the Saudi Arabian and Mexican teams. And they handled it better than those last 2 games, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 9 hours ago, We love Axl Rose said: Same, they conceded a goal in the 95th minute that kept them from advancing. No, Mexico was already not advancing with Argentina winning 2-0. They were tied with Poland on several levels of deciding factors - with both matches at 2-0 it would’ve gone to fair play points (i.e. number of yellow and red cards), where Poland had the advantage. Apparently had they been tied on fair play points, the next factor would’ve been FIFA ranking, where Mexico would have advanced. Mexico needed to score a third goal yesterday to advance. 3 hours ago, Padme said: Argentina played really good. Lewandowski was nowhere to be found. He needed to lead his team. He did nothing. Shame on him! I don't feel sorry for Mexico. But the amount of yellow card rule is bullshit! If there is a draw because of the amount of goals and points or whatever, then go to overtime and eventually penalty kick. The amount of yellow cards should not decide who is in and who is out. To be fair it’s not like yellow cards was the first factor to decide a draw. First is points, then goal differential, then goals scored, then goals conceded, then direct match/H2H (where they drew 0-0), then fair play points. There has to be a deciding factor, and sometimes you’re gonna go further down the line of deciding factors than others. This was a VERY extreme example. I don’t think it’s fair to give a team a lifeline in a penalty shootout (Which essentially amounts to luck) when you’re playing for points in a group stage when not every team is afforded that option. It also just doesn’t work logistically - you’d be having a penalty shootout in a game that wasn’t a draw, where one team would be afforded the opportunity to advance on penalties and the other wouldn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We love Axl Rose Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, Powerage5 said: No, Mexico was already not advancing with Argentina winning 2-0. They were tied with Poland on several levels of deciding factors - with both matches at 2-0 it would’ve gone to fair play points (i.e. number of yellow and red cards), where Poland had the advantage. Apparently had they been tied on fair play points, the next factor would’ve been FIFA ranking, where Mexico would have advanced. Mexico needed to score a third goal yesterday to advance. My bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklord Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 I think it's a coin toss if yellows are also the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLegend Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 25 minutes ago, Nicklord said: I think it's a coin toss if yellows are also the same? BBC said during the match, that if both were tied on yellow cards then they would draw lots. They didn't know though how that would work or if it would be behind closed doors or publicly. Don't think it's ever got that far in modern times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We love Axl Rose Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 56 minutes ago, Nicklord said: I think it's a coin toss if yellows are also the same? 28 minutes ago, AtariLegend said: BBC said during the match, that if both were tied on yellow cards then they would draw lots. They didn't know though how that would work or if it would be behind closed doors or publicly. Don't think it's ever got that far in modern times. 7. Fair play points in all group matches (only one deduction can be applied to a player in a single match): Yellow card: −1 point; Indirect red card (second yellow card): −3 points; Direct red card: −4 points; Yellow card and direct red card: −5 points; 8. Drawing of lots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 hour ago, We love Axl Rose said: My bad All good! It was a super confusing scenario playing out last night 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We love Axl Rose Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) From Wikipedia: EDIT: I think the only case when yellow cards decided who will pass the group was at the last World Cup in 2018 when Japan passed because of fewer yellow cards than Senegal. Edited December 1, 2022 by We love Axl Rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 3 hours ago, Powerage5 said: No, Mexico was already not advancing with Argentina winning 2-0. They were tied with Poland on several levels of deciding factors - with both matches at 2-0 it would’ve gone to fair play points (i.e. number of yellow and red cards), where Poland had the advantage. Apparently had they been tied on fair play points, the next factor would’ve been FIFA ranking, where Mexico would have advanced. Mexico needed to score a third goal yesterday to advance. To be fair it’s not like yellow cards was the first factor to decide a draw. First is points, then goal differential, then goals scored, then goals conceded, then direct match/H2H (where they drew 0-0), then fair play points. There has to be a deciding factor, and sometimes you’re gonna go further down the line of deciding factors than others. This was a VERY extreme example. I don’t think it’s fair to give a team a lifeline in a penalty shootout (Which essentially amounts to luck) when you’re playing for points in a group stage when not every team is afforded that option. It also just doesn’t work logistically - you’d be having a penalty shootout in a game that wasn’t a draw, where one team would be afforded the opportunity to advance on penalties and the other wouldn’t. I know that the yellow card was not the first factor. The thing is yellow car should not be a factor at all!!! I understand that only once in a blue moon there is draw in all factors. If that is the case, then go to overtime and/or penalty kicks. The referees also could make a mistake. And a player could end up getting a yellow card when he didn't deserve it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cosmo Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Wow, Belgium out of the World Cup and Morroco heading to the knockout stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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