09/12/23 - Knoxville, TN - Thompson-Boling Arena

[GoBucky]

I actually heard Perhaps twice on Sirius and once on local radio today...then they play a show and don't play it. 

[Blackstar]

[DoMw94]

A song is missing from one show and everyone immediately assumes it's been 'dropped' 😂 Way to overreact. Mr. Brownstone wasn't played at one show this year, that's not been dropped!

Look, all I'm saying is let's not jump to conclusions based on the events of ONE show

[angelsecrets]

1 hour ago, angelsecrets said:

I am sure he is singing his ass off to make the fans enjoy the show.  Stop being so negative. The road on tour is rough. Try it!

Great honest song https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/gunsnroses/perhaps.html

[Bitchisback]

37 minutes ago, GoBucky said:

I actually heard Perhaps twice on Sirius and once on local radio today...then they play a show and don't play it. 

I have heard perhaps on Sirius radio more than I heard hard skool and absurd combined.  

 

I guess Axl just wasn't up to it tonight!  I'm sure it'll be back in the set soon. I mean if he still is willing to play better lmao

[GoBucky]

12 minutes ago, Bitchisback said:

I have heard perhaps on Sirius radio more than I heard hard skool and absurd combined.  

 

I guess Axl just wasn't up to it tonight!  I'm sure it'll be back in the set soon. I mean if he still is willing to play better lmao

No doubt, it's not going anywhere. I was just surprised to actually hear it three times today, once on Carrie Underwood's channel. 

[gabmmor]

Setlist: It’s So Easy, Bad Obsession, Chinese Democracy, Slither, Rumble/Welcome To The Jungle, Pretty Tied Up, Reckless Life, Mr. Brownstone, Estranged, Hard Skool, Double Talkin’ Jive, Live And Let Die, Absurd, Rocket Queen, Down On The Farm, You Could Be Mine, T.V. Eye, Street Of Dreams, Anything Goes, Civil War/(Voodoo Child), Band Introductions, Slash Solo/Sweet Child O’ Mine, November Rain, Wichita Lineman, Better, Knockin’ On Heaven’s Door, Nightrain
Encore: People Get Ready/Coma, Patience, Paradise City

(HTGTH)

[Drew Nicholson]

Got back from the show. This is the 4th time I have seen them since they have reunited (Atlanta 2016, Prague 2017, Leipzig 2018), honest take I would be lying to you if I said this was the best I have ever heard Axl because it certainly wasn’t. And to be fair, I don’t think anything will top 2016, but he sounded great in person. I brought a good buddy of mine to the gig (Not a huge GNR fan by any means) and he said he was mind blown on how well he sounded given the circumstances (being 60+ and was just sick). Overall, I got to hear songs that I thought I would never hear live (PTU, Bad Obsession, SOD) and it was a fantastic show.  Would most certainly see them again. 

Edited September 13, 2023 by Drew Nicholson

[AxlRoseCDII]

Always a sad day to hear Better is back in the setlist.

[Bitchisback]

2 hours ago, AxlRoseCDII said:

Always a sad day to hear Better is back in the setlist.

One of my favorite songs. I don't understand why Axl struggles so much with it. But it should be dropped if he can't figure out a different vocal approach to it

[IzzysMissy]

8 hours ago, Pedrolg said:

He sounds like he has sounded the whole year tbh.

If that’s the case, and people on this forum are to be believed, he’s sounding both THE GREATEST and THE WORST ever. This is just what he sounds like now folks, and you can believe whatever you choose to believe. Someone above said “standard Axl now” and tbh, that’s a very realistic outlook.

[allwaystired]

24 minutes ago, IzzysMissy said:

If that’s the case, and people on this forum are to be believed, he’s sounding both THE GREATEST and THE WORST ever. This is just what he sounds like now folks, and you can believe whatever you choose to believe. Someone above said “standard Axl now” and tbh, that’s a very realistic outlook.

The basic rule is, someone goes to a show, has a good time, then says "best time I've ever seen them, as good as 2006, sure he wasn't good at the gig before which I didn't go to, or the one following it, but at the gig I went to he was phenomenal and it was special". 

Then you have loads of people watching shitty camera phone footage which sounds awful saying Axl sounds appalling now. Until they pay their own money to go to a show, where they revert to the position above.

The reality is, as usual, somewhere in between. 

[Rovim]

1 minute ago, allwaystired said:

The basic rule is, someone goes to a show, has a good time, then says "best time I've ever seen them, as good as 2006, sure he wasn't good at the gig before which I didn't go to, or the one following it, but at the gig I went to he was phenomenal and it was special". 

Then you have loads of people watching shitty camera phone footage which sounds awful saying Axl sounds appalling now. Until they pay their own money to go to a show, where they revert to the position above.

The reality is, as usual, somewhere in between. 

I think that's lumping too many fans into one group, and from what I can tell, most fans that visit this forum are pretty good at giving an honest critic when it comes to Axl's voice, even with the excitement of being in the venue in person and having a good time.

[Gnrcane]

8 hours ago, Blackstar said:

It seems it's over (Paradise City now) and no Perhaps.

Perhaps Axl doesn't feel he's figured out how to sing it and thinks it doesn't sound good?

Did Axl make any references to illness or his voice during the show?

[allwaystired]

21 minutes ago, Rovim said:

I think that's lumping too many fans into one group, and from what I can tell, most fans that visit this forum are pretty good at giving an honest critic when it comes to Axl's voice, even with the excitement of being in the venue in person and having a good time.

Yeah, that's a generalisation I'm making- but it is something that seems to happen a lot. 

I'd say too that most people are fairly realistic, but the old adage is definitely true that it 'sounds better when you're there'. 

 

[Blackstar]

3 minutes ago, Gnrcane said:

Perhaps Axl doesn't feel he's figured out how to sing it and thinks it doesn't sound good?

Did Axl make any references to illness or his voice during the show?

I don't think he said anything. He didn't talk much during the show.

[kingcanyon]

full show is up on youtube

 

Edited September 13, 2023 by kingcanyon

[Coma16]

54 minutes ago, allwaystired said:

The basic rule is, someone goes to a show, has a good time, then says "best time I've ever seen them, as good as 2006, sure he wasn't good at the gig before which I didn't go to, or the one following it, but at the gig I went to he was phenomenal and it was special". 

Then you have loads of people watching shitty camera phone footage which sounds awful saying Axl sounds appalling now. Until they pay their own money to go to a show, where they revert to the position above.

The reality is, as usual, somewhere in between. 

Isn't it crazy how shitty cellphone recordings sounded so much better 13 years ago? Or when he was in ACDC?

[HollyWoodRose84]

1 hour ago, allwaystired said:

The basic rule is, someone goes to a show, has a good time, then says "best time I've ever seen them, as good as 2006, sure he wasn't good at the gig before which I didn't go to, or the one following it, but at the gig I went to he was phenomenal and it was special". 

Then you have loads of people watching shitty camera phone footage which sounds awful saying Axl sounds appalling now. Until they pay their own money to go to a show, where they revert to the position above.

The reality is, as usual, somewhere in between. 

The reality is he hasn’t sounded good in a a long time. Has nothing to do with camera phones, recordings, mix issues at the venue, venue acoustics etc. For me, it kills the experience, but that’s just me. I don’t expect others to feel the same way. It is what it is at this point. I do feel though at the end of the day, if people leave a show satisfied, that’s all that really matters. 

[B5Redeye]

1 hour ago, allwaystired said:

The basic rule is, someone goes to a show, has a good time, then says "best time I've ever seen them, as good as 2006, sure he wasn't good at the gig before which I didn't go to, or the one following it, but at the gig I went to he was phenomenal and it was special". 

Then you have loads of people watching shitty camera phone footage which sounds awful saying Axl sounds appalling now. Until they pay their own money to go to a show, where they revert to the position above.

The reality is, as usual, somewhere in between. 

And to think you use to fall into “the other” camp. But this year you ponied up and actually went to show VS watching you tube.

Seriously I’m very proud of you :-)

[IzzysMissy]

56 minutes ago, Coma16 said:

Isn't it crazy how shitty cellphone recordings sounded so much better 13 years ago? Or when he was in ACDC?

Absolutely nuts man 🤣🤌🏼

[meadsoap]

You people are such losers, oh my god. No wonder this forum is dead. 

[Rovim]

4 minutes ago, meadsoap said:

You people are such losers, oh my god. No wonder this forum is dead. 

so what are you still doing here

[lost un the jungle]

1 hour ago, kingcanyon said:

full show is up on youtube

 

Thanks!! I think he sounds average 2023, not great and not terribly bad. He needs recovery, too much touring is taking a toll on ol' Axl

[Gnrcane]

27 minutes ago, lost un the jungle said:

Thanks!! I think he sounds average 2023, not great and not terribly bad. He needs recovery, too much touring is taking a toll on ol' Axl

I did some quick sampling through that video and I agree.  He basically sounds the same as he has in other videos from this year.  I think some people have an expectation bias due to the illness that his voice was going to be completely shot so they think he sounds worse than the prior shows.  I don't really hear much difference and I don't think that the "illness" was a significant vocal issue.  A vocal issue that would have caused a cancellation a day before a show would not have allowed him to sing for 3+ hours 4 days later.  Assuming it was Axl, I think he was just sick like a normal person gets too sick to work sometimes.