Duwz Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 SO, I've seen some AI generated vocals on Twitter the other day, mostly pop artists (yk people that stay relevant in the music scenario), ie lady gaga singing lana del rey songs, etc. Then I wondered if this could be done to Axl vocals to a bunch of ideas came to mind. - Axl vocals for leaked instrumental CD songs (idk if this specifically could be possible, because I think the AI models that I saw work on pre-existent recorded vocals of some other artist) - Make Axl sound great again in post 2010 concerts? - Make Axl cover really good songs IE Tiny Tim - Tiptoe Through the Tulips? - New songs? Anyway, I'm sure all GNR fans are totally not nerd IT guys with no free time to spare at all, but could anyone solve these really important questions for me? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ©GnrPersia Posted March 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 23, 2023 If you heard your own voice speaking to your loved ones one day, how would you feel? We all know that most probably Axl has been artistically impotent since long time now and there's probably no hope seeing new music but I don't want to turn into a consumerism zombie that doesn't care the authenticity of the music he listens to. That's my opinion. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucketEgg Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) Hmmm, I think I hear the sound of Team Brazil speeding by in their GNAir-plane with the copyright strike gun, locked and loaded. ... anyway, I haven't heard any dramatic rock vocals being mimicked, yet. but with the speed that AI voice generation is advancing, i think it's only a matter of time (months? years?) until someone tries feeding Axl's voice or an Axl-soundalike to an AI capable of doing custom note creating and delivering... I reckon rock vocals like Axl's might take longer for AI to master because they're so dramatic, and Axl has numerous ways he can choose to deliver a certain line. (soft? loud? raspy? clean? and all those notes, and the emotion behind it general) By the time AI can successfully copy all of Axl's voice and mannerisms Terminator style, there might be laws stopping that. if there isn't, it's slightly creepy isn't it? imagine growing old, but the ghost of your own voice when you were young is now doing new things on its own, controlled by other people. it's intriguing no doubt though. Edited March 23, 2023 by BucketEgg 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duwz Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share Posted March 23, 2023 27 minutes ago, ©GnrPersia said: If you heard your own voice speaking to your loved ones one day, how would you feel? We all know that most probably Axl has been artistically impotent since long time now and there's probably no hope seeing new music but I don't want to turn into a consumerism zombie that doesn't care the authenticity of the music he listens to. That's my opinion. let's just call it a 'musical viagra' 25 minutes ago, BucketEgg said: Hmmm, I think I hear the sound of Team Brazil speeding by in their GNAir-plane with the copyright strike gun, locked and loaded. ... anyway, I haven't heard any dramatic rock vocals being mimicked, yet. but with the speed that AI voice generation is advancing, i think it's only a matter of time (months? years?) until someone tries feeding Axl's voice or an Axl-soundalike to an AI capable of doing custom note creating and delivering... I reckon rock vocals like Axl's might take longer for AI to master because they're so dramatic, and Axl has numerous ways he can choose to deliver a certain line. (soft? loud? raspy? clean? and all those notes, and the emotion behind it general) By the time AI can successfully copy all of Axl's voice and mannerisms Terminator style, there might be laws stopping that. if there isn't, it's slightly creepy isn't it? imagine growing old, but the ghost of your own voice when you were young is now doing new things on its own, controlled by other people. it's intriguing no doubt though. even though i don't care if it's ethically correct or not, i think it's beyond our control, it's happening wether we like it or not... it's the internet afterall. i just wonder if those things I mentioned are possible with current technology 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Duwz said: t's happening wether we like it or not Excactly. Sadly the ethics take a backseat, as progress stops for nobody. Edited March 23, 2023 by Shacklermyrye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucketEgg Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 37 minutes ago, Duwz said: let's just call it a 'musical viagra' even though i don't care if it's ethically correct or not, i think it's beyond our control, it's happening wether we like it or not... it's the internet afterall. i just wonder if those things I mentioned are possible with current technology So let's pretend Axl Rose wants to make an Ai-xl Rose for his own use for whatever reasons, right now. I suppose he has his clean recordings of vocals to feed to an AI. One of the more advanced AI voice-cloners, (eleven-labs) currently has trouble with different accents, and doesn't have custom vocal delivery (or singing), yet. If Axl wanted to go "I want this note, and this note, and this note to lead into this note", he can't do that. If he wants to be able to pick vocal delivery (screech like Welcome To The Jungle, or the more mellow intro of Estranged, or the exaggerated "toughness" of My World), he can't do that. He can't pick the rhythm of his voice. I haven't looked into trying to use an singing AI mimicker, but since you said the vocals work on pre-existent recorded vocals, it's very limited. I suppose Axl could do a first recording of his current vocals, and get AI to dub over that and use it as a reference for Ai-xl Rose, but I don't know. I don't think AI as it currently is has the fine-tuning power or the intelligence to generate something that sounds like an Axl with a legit brain making choices doing the singing. The AI-covers I hear now can might copy Axl enough for joke things and silly stuff, but as a serious tool with enough precision and control to satisfy Axl Rose, I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jamillos Posted March 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 23, 2023 I know for sure I could generate a new GNR interview, even without AI. Just take a peek at my signature. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadcaplaughs Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Every time I think we cannot sink any lower... 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karice Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) I personally find the AI for Axl's vocals idea CREEPY. Like Cult Members smiling blankly level of creepy. 😳😱😬 Edited March 23, 2023 by Karice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duwz Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share Posted March 23, 2023 Guys, just imagine... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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quikspade Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 You can use the vocal stems from Chi Dem and maybe the AFD Blu-ray as reference points. I haven’t tried any but it’s intriguing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 31 minutes ago, quikspade said: You can use the vocal stems from Chi Dem and maybe the AFD Blu-ray as reference points. I haven’t tried any but it’s intriguing. Theres a lot of isolated vocals from UYI/Lies and even demos out there as well if you know where to look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaghetti4twenty Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 You can find every vocal stem off Chinese Democracy on YouTube I think it would probably be better than absurd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester 524 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 6 hours ago, ©GnrPersia said: If you heard your own voice speaking to your loved ones one day, how would you feel? so wait, if my voice is speaking to my loved ones, that means I don't have to. which means I get left alone. SIGN ME UP!!!!! LOL jk. AI has a way to go. I typed in "write lyrics as if Axl Rose wrote a song about tying your shoes". here's what came back Chorus: I tie my shoes, I tie them tight I run the race, I live the fight I tie my shoes, I tie them strong I'll never give up, I'll never be wrong Verse 2: I step outside into the world, the wind is in my face The path ahead is winding, it's a never-ending race But I'm determined to keep going, my shoes are tied so tight I'll never stumble, I'll never fall, I'll keep on through the night Chorus: I tie my shoes, I tie them tight I run the race, I live the fight I tie my shoes, I tie them strong I'll never give up, I'll never be wrong Bridge: I'll never let the obstacles, get in my way I'll tie my shoes with dignity, I'll get through the day I'll keep on moving forward, nothing's gonna bring me down My shoes are tied, I'm ready to burn up this town Chorus: I tie my shoes, I tie them tight I run the race, I live the fight I tie my shoes, I tie them strong I'll never give up, I'll never be wrong Outro: I'm tying my shoes, I'm ready to go I've got the fire in my heart, I'm ready to show I'll walk the path, I'll pave the way My shoes are tied, it's a brand new day. so, yeah. we can replace 12 minute rocket queen with a 30 minute version of this. lyrics kinda make me want to throw out all of my velcro shoes though. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lame ass security Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Chester 524 said: so wait, if my voice is speaking to my loved ones, that means I don't have to. which means I get left alone. SIGN ME UP!!!!! LOL jk. AI has a way to go. I typed in "write lyrics as if Axl Rose wrote a song about tying your shoes". here's what came back Chorus: I tie my shoes, I tie them tight I run the race, I live the fight I tie my shoes, I tie them strong I'll never give up, I'll never be wrong Verse 2: I step outside into the world, the wind is in my face The path ahead is winding, it's a never-ending race But I'm determined to keep going, my shoes are tied so tight I'll never stumble, I'll never fall, I'll keep on through the night Chorus: I tie my shoes, I tie them tight I run the race, I live the fight I tie my shoes, I tie them strong I'll never give up, I'll never be wrong Bridge: I'll never let the obstacles, get in my way I'll tie my shoes with dignity, I'll get through the day I'll keep on moving forward, nothing's gonna bring me down My shoes are tied, I'm ready to burn up this town Chorus: I tie my shoes, I tie them tight I run the race, I live the fight I tie my shoes, I tie them strong I'll never give up, I'll never be wrong Outro: I'm tying my shoes, I'm ready to go I've got the fire in my heart, I'm ready to show I'll walk the path, I'll pave the way My shoes are tied, it's a brand new day. so, yeah. we can replace 12 minute rocket queen with a 30 minute version of this. lyrics kinda make me want to throw out all of my velcro shoes though. lol Oasis came to mind with "the path ahead is winding" part. Edited March 24, 2023 by lame ass security Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible_rose Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Chester 524 said: so wait, if my voice is speaking to my loved ones, that means I don't have to. which means I get left alone. SIGN ME UP!!!!! LOL jk. AI has a way to go. I typed in "write lyrics as if Axl Rose wrote a song about tying your shoes". here's what came back Chorus: I tie my shoes, I tie them tight I run the race, I live the fight I tie my shoes, I tie them strong I'll never give up, I'll never be wrong Verse 2: I step outside into the world, the wind is in my face The path ahead is winding, it's a never-ending race But I'm determined to keep going, my shoes are tied so tight I'll never stumble, I'll never fall, I'll keep on through the night Chorus: I tie my shoes, I tie them tight I run the race, I live the fight I tie my shoes, I tie them strong I'll never give up, I'll never be wrong Bridge: I'll never let the obstacles, get in my way I'll tie my shoes with dignity, I'll get through the day I'll keep on moving forward, nothing's gonna bring me down My shoes are tied, I'm ready to burn up this town Chorus: I tie my shoes, I tie them tight I run the race, I live the fight I tie my shoes, I tie them strong I'll never give up, I'll never be wrong Outro: I'm tying my shoes, I'm ready to go I've got the fire in my heart, I'm ready to show I'll walk the path, I'll pave the way My shoes are tied, it's a brand new day. so, yeah. we can replace 12 minute rocket queen with a 30 minute version of this. lyrics kinda make me want to throw out all of my velcro shoes though. lol "I'll tie my shoes with dignity" - is that like making sure your ass isn't hanging out of your trousers when you bend over? I imagine Axl a few years ago would have struggled with that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristmasFnatic Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 6 hours ago, Duwz said: Guys, just imagine... I remember him guest star in WWF RAW way back. And this song reminds me of Insidious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamos66 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 I've been working on this for a little while in fact, i've managed to get a decently accurate speaking voice of Axl but not a singing voice as the voice cloning struggles with the long sung notes I assume, and it'd need clear words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamos66 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Here is the test recording for those interested: http://www.sndup.net/pvkm 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 19 hours ago, Skamos66 said: Here is the test recording for those interested: http://www.sndup.net/pvkm What clips did you use to clone his voice from? Sounds kind of like the Rockline interviews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamos66 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 36 minutes ago, Shacklermyrye said: What clips did you use to clone his voice from? Sounds kind of like the Rockline interviews I used the Donnington 1988 interview and just clipped the Axl parts without the interviewer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 19 minutes ago, Skamos66 said: I used the Donnington 1988 interview and just clipped the Axl parts without the interviewer. Try using this one. I clipped it so its just Axl and its high quality sounding. https://we.tl/t-KQ8p8A69Ce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 55 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 you could just use Moises to isolate what you want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 I am pro-AI working on the CDII leaks. Fuck it - if Axl doesn't move his ass, AIXL's gonna do it for him. I'll take Artificial Democracy over another greatest hits tour any day of the week. 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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