rocknroll41 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, North Korean Democracy said: Wish Slash had the balls to tell Axl they either release/record stuff or he's out again. He's the only one in the band who could stand to him, Axl knows without him again he's fucked. With the kind of alimony Slash has to pay, he needs Axl just as much as Axl needs him. They’re locked in a stalemate. Edited August 11, 2023 by rocknroll41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, 2020_Intensions said: Or the rock news outlets are using this forum as the original source. They don't know shit. They're just as clueless as casual fans are. I think they were referring to the fact that “August 11th” was literally animated into the gif design. No way they’d go thru the trouble of doing that unless, at some point, that was really meant to be the release date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020_Intensions Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said: I think they were referring to the fact that “August 11th” was literally animated into the gif design. No way they’d go thru the trouble of doing that unless, at some point, that was really meant to be the release date. I'm not familiar with that. I don't care about or pay attention to any "back door" stuff this forum sniffs out. It's all conjecture to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marinergtfc Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, AxlRoseCDII said: In terms of releasing new music it is. I’ve never heard of a band dropping a song at a time that isn’t midnight in some timezone. Yea, but team brazil (you know, the greatest management team of all time) will claim that guns don’t do anything the ordinary way etc….punk as fuck blah blah blah. there are sentinelese tribes that are untouched by civilization that would be better managers and would actually get music released. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR4Ever2024 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 8 hours ago, JimiRose said: On the day that Harry Kane joins Bayern Munich, breaking tens of millions of hearts, destroying Tottenham Hotsput Football club, GnR couldn't even release a 24 year old (and 3 year old re recorded) single song on the day they chose it to be released to soften any blow. This band is criminal. down bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Dean said: I'll second that hope, though it seems as if it's an Axl call going down that route as the audio from Appetite for Democracy is exactly the same. A massive contrast to what they did going against the norm in the midst of the loudness war regarding how Chinese was mixed and mastered. More of that caliber would be very much welcomed, as often the case, great mastering can elevate a good song into a great song. Was Appetite for Democracy that bad? I watched the DVD once and never listened to it with headphones (I really despise the Ashba era), didn't know it was like that. I guess everything regarding that release was butchered anyways. 1 hour ago, BillConnor_1982 said: They’ve had 23 years! Technically less because they had to remix it after Slash, Duff and (maybe) Richard's new layers, but yeah, I know. Still, wasn't this the reason why Axl and Slash were listening to new mixes with different speakers and headphones in Sweden? Back then I speculated that this fact would indicate that the single would be out only by the NA tour. They suck at being professionals, that's for sure. 8 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said: I think they were referring to the fact that “August 11th” was literally animated into the gif design. No way they’d go thru the trouble of doing that unless, at some point, that was really meant to be the release date. They could animated that video/gif with a lot of dates. It's not a big deal to render and export things like that. IMO, that was just a placeholder for the date before the plan changed®. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blackstar Posted August 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Alejandro GNR said: Nothing has been said about it not being released????????? Man this band is upsetting, like REALLY WTF Said by whom? The band didn't announce a release date, so what to say? 29 minutes ago, AxlRoseCDII said: I think there’s constant industry and internal rumblings. SiriusXM said they’ll be releasing a new song “in a few days” over a week ago, before any of this. Their tour manager said “any day now” a month ago. Duff and Slash seemed to think it was basically imminent in various interviews they’ve done. It seems like everyone and their mother believes it’s an inevitability, yet week after week we find ourselves in this same spot. We can all fool ourselves and say it’s coming August 18th, but really, it’s likely just going to get postponed again, and again, and again, like Groundhog Day. Yes, it was obviously planned for Aug. 11 (though that's something we weren't supposed to know) and they didn't meet that specific date for whatever reason. But a release has been planned anyway, so it will come out eventually. I'm almost confident it's coming next week. After all, it's a GN'R tradition. Anniversary box sets are released with a year's delay, so individual songs will be released with a week's delay. Makes sense Edited August 11, 2023 by Blackstar 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR4Ever2024 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 why are people mad at the band if they didn't say anything? They didn't announce anything. Just because some rock jurno's said it doesn't mean it was actually planned for the 11th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 32 minutes ago, AxlRoseCDII said: In terms of releasing new music it is. I’ve never heard of a band dropping a song at a time that isn’t midnight in some timezone. Maybe they’re counting its possible live performance in Hershey tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real McCoy Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, GNR4Ever2024 said: why are people mad at the band if they didn't say anything? They didn't announce anything. Just because some rock jurno's said it doesn't mean it was actually planned for the 11th. The Linkfire website had an animated magic 8 ball that said August 11th. This was an official band page that said it, not some random journalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, downzy said: Maybe they’re counting its possible live performance in Hershey tonight? I’ll say this to you, I very much would be fine if you’re right and I look like a massive idiot later. But there’s such a history of disappointment with this band and music that I am unable to envision it. It would be a massive apology for Hershey though for a dud of a show and not playing a new song that was clearly planned back in 2021. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinaleblood Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, downzy said: Maybe they’re counting its possible live performance in Hershey tonight? I think they are going to play it live before the release only if they are actually releasing it very soon after, like they did with Absurd. Think about it: they are currently wiping all the Perhaps leaks from YouTube. It means that once the song gets released and a little buzz about it starts, they want people to find the official version online, not the leak. And if they don't want them to hear the leak, they most likely don't want people listen to subpar live versions either (which would be the only things available if they play it before the release). Edited August 11, 2023 by Twinaleblood 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanG Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Zeppelin said: Axl's not going to give you a hug for defending him so vigorously. People aren't pissed about August 11th. That date has no meaning. It's the overall functioning of the band itself. This isn't anything new. It wasn't new today, it wasn't new last week, it wasn't even new when the reunion started a million years ago. People aren't actually expecting new music, because this is Guns N' Roses. We've all read this book before. However, many fans clearly have a desire to hear what's next. That is human nature. To be curious. The reason they get a little irked about it is because they'd like to hear something new in their lifetime. It reaches the point of ridiculousness. People aren't just pulling these things out of the air. The band doesn't owe anyone anything, but when they have members saying that news will be coming within the week, they're soundchecking new songs, we get potential release dates for new releases, etc., it's going to naturally stir some curiosity. And what do we receive for that curiosity? Overpriced AFD reissues/merch and more BS. The funny thing is, they'll just laugh at people like you who seem to defend their every move because they can get away with shitting out this ridiculous merchandise, since they know it's being purchased. Just like their live shows. They know people will just go, and even if they don't, who cares? They have their money at this point. Honestly, defending such a husk of a band is laughable to me. You can insult the intelligence of the fans all you want, but believe me, the band isn't laughing at the ones who are annoyed. They're laughing at the ones who lap up everything they do because they can get away with it. I'd much rather be on the side of people wishing for something more than on the other side, stapling a smile on my face for Uncle Axl. Oh yeah, that's what I was doing, defending Axl (a man I don't even know) ''vigorously'', to get a hug, hahaha. p.s. I don't defend the band at all, I don't care enough nor do I have reason to, but as many before me pointed out, in this case the band never announced a date for the release of a song, so people getting disappointed is all on them. I didn't get disappointed because I know better. So yes, it is not exactly smart to expect something that's not announced and then to get mad, especially in the case of band like GnR. And this is not the first time you see that around here. Edited August 11, 2023 by EvanG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 5 hours ago, ©GnrPersia said: Mark my words. There won't be any GNR release this year. I will proudly attach this comment on December 31 as my New Year wishes here. lol New year wishes? I'd be wishing that there would be gnr music. I have a strong feeling that we'll see something before that though. Disheartening as it is not to have the "new" single today, I think with all the 'very soon.... Any day now' comments they will come through and release at least 1 song. Obviously Axl is a man who's promises of new music are poor to say the least but I think there's a want to get things out right now and from a perspective of looking at Axl and the bands performance and energy it seems like they've been reinvigorated by something... One can only hope it's them ramping up for releases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Yeesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, downzy said: Maybe they’re counting its possible live performance in Hershey tonight? No way. They won't play it, but they should, it would ease a lot of tension created in the last couple days. But then again, if they are indeed planing to release it next week, I'm sure it would be ok anyways. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real McCoy Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, Voodoochild said: No way. They won't play it, but they should, it would ease a lot of tension created in the last couple days. But then again, if they are indeed planing to release it next week, I'm sure it would be ok anyways. I’m still convinced that Axl and/or Team Brazil are pissed that we found the Linkfire page before we were supposed to and called the whole thing off. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRRHCP98 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 On Reddit rn, and apparently it’s showing up on Apple Music, just not accessible in US? Can someone outside of the US verify: https://reddit.com/r/GunsNRoses/s/DaGCVJkgpC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, GNRRHCP98 said: On Reddit rn, and apparently it’s showing up on Apple Music, just not accessible in US? Can someone outside of the US verify: https://reddit.com/r/GunsNRoses/s/DaGCVJkgpC People with VPNs have tried and as far as I know it’s not showing up anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas19 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, GNRRHCP98 said: On Reddit rn, and apparently it’s showing up on Apple Music, just not accessible in US? Can someone outside of the US verify: https://reddit.com/r/GunsNRoses/s/DaGCVJkgpC It only shows an error to me, from Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRRHCP98 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Just now, AxlRoseCDII said: People with VPNs have tried and as far as I know it’s not showing up anywhere. Yeah, waiting for screenshots from the two users who claim they see it on there… who knows… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Real McCoy said: I’m still convinced that Axl and/or Team Brazil are pissed that we found the Linkfire page before we were supposed to and called the whole thing off. That's ridiculous 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stay.Of.Execution Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, The Real McCoy said: I’m still convinced that Axl and/or Team Brazil are pissed that we found the Linkfire page before we were supposed to and called the whole thing off. You live in a fantasy world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppelin Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, EvanG said: Oh yeah, that's what I was doing, defending Axl (a man I don't even know) ''vigorously'', to get a hug, hahaha. p.s. I don't defend the band at all, I don't care enough nor do I have reason to, but as many before me pointed out, in this case the band never announced a date for the release of a song, so people getting disappointed is all on them. I didn't get disappointed because I know better. So yes, it is not exactly smart to expect something that's not announced and then to get mad, especially in the case of band like GnR. And this is not the first time you see that around here. Okay. Again, that's not the point. People wanting a new song and not getting it is not really the disappointing aspect for them. The disappointing aspect comes from knowing deep down that this band is a constant disappointment in general. If they were a normal, functioning band, not releasing a song here and there wouldn't make a chunk of their fanbase roll their eyes so hard. It would just be a normal plan change. A plan change for GNR is such a colossal comedy of errors and poor planning that many fans get annoyed over the very nature of releasing music in the first place. I don't think anyone on here can tell me (with a straight face, at least) that this band doesn't make things harder on themselves. There are so many opportunities for this band to provide small wins here and there, and they just never take them. Even Absurd and HS were swings and misses because of such awful execution, and those were songs they actually released. People may like those tracks, but it goes back to the band being a disappointment in this regard for a long time. You keep bringing up intelligence. The fans that are disappointed don't care about August 11th and aren't furious with them about it. They're annoyed that even though there is writing on the wall, the band can't actually get something together, which has been their modus operandi for, how long now? Too many years. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Is it that unrealistic when we have a band manager telling fans to fuck off and “the world would be better without them”? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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