axl666 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Is it GNR the business that is being sued for the harassment allegations, or the alleged individual manager? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silence Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 On 11/14/2023 at 5:22 PM, Liquor & Whores said: Maybe Fernando thought that if Fortus could, then... I bet she got with Fortus for protection from Fernando. Wonder if he would testify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, Silence said: Fernando has done some great things, Like what? He has done nothing and is a child of circumstance. The band would be just as well- off, if not moreso without him I guess he gave me a pit upgrade once, but I had a good seat anyways 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silence Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Just now, ZoSoRose said: Like what? He has done nothing and is a child of circumstance. The band would be just as well- off, if not moreso without him I guess he gave me a pit upgrade once, but I had a good seat anyways The lithos man. You started that thread. Thats enough for me. Im certain there are other things, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silence Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 10 hours ago, Tom2112 said: Well she's owed money for her services. There's no cash grab. Just a "I tried the quiet route, and was rebuffed for several years now I have no choice but to air this dirty laundry". Had he been a smart man, he would have paid her off years ago and hoped she didn't ever talk of his over misconduct. Not paying her is bad, not paying her AND sexually harrassing is a whole other level. Time will tell whether gnr handle this properly or not, but new management would be the best course of action. What else are they not doing professionally? And justice in this instance would be financial compensation. She's hardly going to settle for Fernando saying "sorry" with his smarmy attitude. Hit them where it hurts is either jail time (which he won't get) or his wallet, which he almost certainly will have to open. He probably isn’t compensated that well. He enjoys the lifestyle and all that it affords. But, I seriously doubt he is a millionaire in the way he can off a woman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silence Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 21 hours ago, Coma16 said: I wonder what the status of lithographs will be for future touring, assuming Nando gets the corn. Great question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Forget the lithos. I just want the laundry baskets to be safe. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfacelessturtle Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 10 hours ago, Outofgascar said: Are you listening to me, Mr. Guns N’ Roses man? That guy…. *points to Fernando* …..GONE!! FERNANDO IS IN MY ASS, THAT'S WHERE HE IS! FUCKHEAD, GO HOME! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Rindmelon said: I bet it has the chinese dragon leaning on the world logo on the front? Sure does! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ZoSoRose Posted November 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2023 36 minutes ago, Silence said: The lithos man. You started that thread. Thats enough for me. Im certain there are other things, too. The lithos are probably from another company that does them. They’re the exact same format that many bands use. He didn’t come up with the idea 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silence Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said: The lithos are probably from another company that does them. They’re the exact same format that many bands use. He didn’t come up with the idea No shit. If you wanna be an obvious dick be my guest. He is the reason GNR does them and he did for the fans. I dont know why expressing some gratitude for that is something you need to shit on. Edited November 16, 2023 by Silence 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, Silence said: He is the reason GNR does them and he did for the fans. What makes you think Fernando was the reason they started doing lithos? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vloors Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 15 minutes ago, Silence said: No shit. If you wanna be an obvious dick be my guest. He is the reason GNR does them and he did for the fans. I dont know why expressing some gratitude for that is something you need to shit on. If he did them for the fans they would be free with a ticket sale. Reality is its another high priced item they sell for profits. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silence Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said: What makes you think Fernando was the reason they started doing lithos? He claimed it and someone who is in the know confirmed. Those are my reasons . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silence Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 13 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said: What makes you think Fernando was the reason they started doing lithos? If I didn’t believe it, I wouldn’t say it. But, regardless, I still have found Fernando to be more or less a decent and fun guy. Ive seen countless examples of his humanity thru the years with fans. Despite the fact I believe Kat, I prefer Nando to Niven all fucking day long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, axl666 said: Is it GNR the business that is being sued for the harassment allegations, or the alleged individual manager? Only Fernando for the act of sexual harassment. GN'R and the touring entity for not having protocols and not taking preventive measures against sexual harassment at the workplace. Edited November 16, 2023 by Blackstar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Silence said: He claimed it and someone who is in the know confirmed. Those are my reasons . 13 minutes ago, Silence said: If I didn’t believe it, I wouldn’t say it. But, regardless, I still have found Fernando to be more or less a decent and fun guy. Ive seen countless examples of his humanity thru the years with fans. Despite the fact I believe Kat, I prefer Nando to Niven all fucking day long. I have no doubt he claimed it, but that's not a good reason to believe it. Who confirmed it? Fernando certainly isn't above exaggerating his importance, and bullshitting fans on discord, reddit, etc. and if he is responsible for the lithos, he's not above using fan-made artwork. When TB took over in 2011 I thought they might finally manage to get some cool things done - they live streamed a few concerts, started a fan club, re-did the website... but it quickly became clear they're unprofessional and incompetent. They've earned their reputation on here, from insulting and arguing with fans online to botching live releases... Fernando might be a fun guy, the recent accusations would suggest he's not a decent guy, but at this point I don't know why anyone would prefer him to any other manager. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ZoSoRose Posted November 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2023 49 minutes ago, Silence said: No shit. If you wanna be an obvious dick be my guest. He is the reason GNR does them and he did for the fans. I dont know why expressing some gratitude for that is something you need to shit on. Maybe you should practice what your username says 21 minutes ago, Silence said: I still have found Fernando to be more or less a decent and fun guy. Ive seen countless examples of his humanity thru the years with fans. Despite the fact I believe Kat, I prefer Nando to Niven all fucking day long. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Silence said: I bet she got with Fortus for protection from Fernando. Wonder if he would testify. What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 minute ago, AxlRoseCDII said: What? This dude is a hoot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avillart Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 6 hours ago, evilfacelessturtle said: "Body language" is a pseudoscience. She could have gone limp from having a sore back for all you know. For it to be a language there would have to be an agreed upon universal code. There is not. People do things for different reasons and you can't read their mind, sorry. Should be called "body assumptions". What you're really telling us is that you're easily fooled by somebody who can lie confidently while looking you dead in the eyes. Which is most liars, in my experience. Bad people spend their whole lives perfecting their performance of a clean outward image. Yeah, you were not even there but you know better than me what happened LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SAU3R Posted November 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2023 5 hours ago, Silence said: Hiring a very attractive photographer for a profile rock band was probably a shit idea. Nope it’s exactly the other way around: hiring Fernando (someone who probably never worked a day in his life and is simply unqualified for the task) to manage a high profile and hugely successful band like GNR was a shit idea. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ©GnrPersia Posted November 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2023 A well-known scumbag among fans + sexual abuser. This is the only time I support cancel culture. Regardless of any court outcome. This asshole had to go a long time ago. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
©GnrPersia Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 11 hours ago, Jw224 said: They'll probably try to settle this privately and we will hear nothing more about it. I'm not seeing Fernando's position changing or him leaving. Unfortunately a likely scenario is this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stay.Of.Execution Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 6 hours ago, Silence said: Great question. one of the most important questions. i couldn't cope with no lithos anymore. but let's not paint that picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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