Sydney Fan Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 57 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: Looks like he was telling him to keep the melody going. If you remember the actual song, it just goes to a tape cut. So, Slash could have ended at any time, Axl told him to bring it back around so he could sing it. Yeah i thought he was motionibg to do the last few chords and finish but obviously axl wanted another outro. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Bansidhe said: I think at this point, most of the crowd is just casual fans who want to hear the hits and aren't familiar with lesser played tracks like this. The band must know there are die hards in the audience that want to hear this shit. I wo u ld love to know on any given show the split between casuals and die hard fans. Edited October 24, 2019 by Sydney Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaygnr Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 I have no idea what the bitching and moaning is about....I loved it. As a die hard fan how can you not??? They showed real human n band emotion winging it to the finish...THISNIS WHAT WE WANT!!! If i was to guess it was thrown im last min and they said fuck it lets have fun....i suggest the fan base take the same approach and enjoy these little alt appearances. I honestly give up with some of this fanbase 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Do i detect a smile from slash during the solo at 2.20 onwards...... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsOfSpiders Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 How was Locomotive? Did Axl get through it this time without a hissy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bansidhe Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, Sydney Fan said: The band must know there are die hards in the audience that want to hear this shit. I wo u ld love to know on any given show the split between casuals and die hard fans. There will still be a few but given how long they've been touring now with still no new material out, a lot of folk just won't bother going now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-p-d-a Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 That cam didn't record the rasp. Thats why its sound like Mickey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Rose Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 53 minutes ago, Bansidhe said: I think at this point, most of the crowd is just casual fans who want to hear the hits and aren't familiar with lesser played tracks like this. You cultivate the audience you deserve. They've spent thirty years promoting Appetite/Hits. Artists like Springsteen, Prince, Waits, Dylan cultivated audiences that go nuts for deep cuts etc. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vloors Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) Cool to have dead horse added and locomotive in this leg. Dead horse will sound much better when they play it abit more. Definately rusty but still awesome. Edited October 24, 2019 by vloors 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Dead Horse!!!! Another of my all time favorite. Thanks a lot GN'R! I'd be smiling 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swedish Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Dead Horse and Locomotive back to back, what a glorious sight! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Rose Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said: How was Locomotive? Did Axl get through it this time without a hissy? When/what was the hissy? I'm also not seeing exactly what Axl/they fucked up so badly on Dead Horse? Edit.....ah, yeah. Edited October 24, 2019 by Jordan Rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giblet Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) I think the band messed up the solo, the key change didn't happen properly, but Slash changed key, and Slash had to vamp over it, and they never recovered from it. Edited October 24, 2019 by Giblet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotsfired cro Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 28 minutes ago, Sydney Fan said: Do i detect a smile from slash during the solo at 2.20 onwards...... Boy, oh boy... That was BAD! 1) Ax fucks up the second half badly 2) That solo is just odd 3) there is something wrong 0:14-0:15, not sure what but its odd, Ax/Frank. 4) why on earth does Frank come before 0:40!? why does he keep rhythm before that? is there any song that i..ot doesn't destroy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, shotsfired cro said: Boy, oh boy... That was BAD! 1) Ax fucks up the second half badly 2) That solo is just odd 3) there is something wrong 0:14-0:15, not sure what but its odd, Ax/Frank. 4) why on earth does Frank come before 0:40!? why does he keep rhythm before that? is there any song that i..ot doesn't destroy? 3) axl came in to fast or slash is strumming abit to fast. Edited October 24, 2019 by Sydney Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Rose Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) The 'deep cut' debate. Depends how you wanna frame it. It's relative to a point but to me, if you have 4.5 albums in 30 years, nothing should be considered a deep cut. Springsteen released Tracks, a FOUR CD set of outtakes, and there are multiple songs on there which would not be considered deep cuts. Not to mention several other discs of outtakes since. But that's because there are tours where he plays literally over 200 different songs. And tours where he plays entire albums back to back. Back in 1992 in interviews and stage rants Axl sounded like he wanted to be the kind of artist who challenged himself and his audience and not "jerk off" to Appetite every night. That didn't work out. But people getting mad at others for expecting more and saying they should be grateful or whatever that we got Loco and DH and Slash is back etc etc....fuck that. Edited October 24, 2019 by Jordan Rose 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelmi Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Amazing that they finally played this! I totally dig how Axl sounds here. But yeah first Frank messes up at the end of Slashs solo.. then Slash fails with playing in the wrong key.. then Axl fails 😁 but all in all awesome. I wish that they keep playing it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotsfired cro Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) Dead Horse should be played like this and ONLY like this! No Axl on guitar intro, no Frank idiotism Also, there is no edge on Oklahoma version, a bit too 'plastic' in a way Edited October 24, 2019 by shotsfired cro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Literally every member of the band made a major mistake at some point. No use in trying to pin it all on one or two people. That said, it'll probably get better if they try it again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DieselDaisy Posted October 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2019 It wasn't bad except for Rose's Mickey. I'd rather see them mess up deep cuts than play the same old stodge. At least there is a bit of spontaneity about proceedings. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotsfired cro Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, RussTCB said: Literally every member of the band made a major mistake at some point. No use in trying to pin it all on one or two people. That said, it'll probably get better if they try it again. that is true. BUT in the 90's I preffered spontanity and mistakes it sounded cool (ie. Slash and Matt wttj st. louis, ax mic fail in rio and iz taking over, ycbm saskatoon...), this just sounds overall weird. And while it spills to every single member eventually - it always starts with Frank and spills like domino effect. you earn so much money, do you really have to stick to the cheapest drummer on the planet for so long? that plus mickey voice combo - puts off big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, shotsfired cro said: that is true. BUT in the 90's I preffered spontanity and mistakes it sounded cool (ie. Slash and Matt wttj st. louis, ax mic fail in rio and iz taking over, ycbm saskatoon...), this just sounds overall weird. And while it spills to every single member eventually - it always starts with Frank and spills like domino effect. you earn so much money, do you really have to stick to the cheapest drummer on the planet for so long? that plus mickey voice combo - puts off big time. I agree with a lot of what you're saying except this didn't start with Frank. It starts with Axl not knowing how his own song goes, then everything goes downhill from there. I get that you don't like Frank, but this one starts with Axl not him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotsfired cro Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, RussTCB said: I agree with a lot of what you're saying except this didn't start with Frank. It starts with Axl not knowing how his own song goes, then everything goes downhill from there. I get that you don't like Frank, but this one starts with Axl not him. I agree about Ax blame part, but I have the feeling it started by Frank hitting those cymbals from the start and speeding everyone up. I have a feeling that rhythm Frank imposed made them all uncomfortable. I fail to understand if Matt made minimum changes to Adler, and everyone else kept to previous drummers why does Frank drum like he wrote those songs!? Also wonder where the border line is with Slash/Ax/Duff in terms of Frank the man. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RussTCB Posted October 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, shotsfired cro said: I agree about Ax blame part, but I have the feeling it started by Frank hitting those cymbals from the start and speeding everyone up. I have a feeling that rhythm Frank imposed made them all uncomfortable. I fail to understand if Matt made minimum changes to Adler, and everyone else kept to previous drummers why does Frank drum like he wrote those songs!? Also wonder where the border line is with Slash/Ax/Duff in terms of Frank the man. Right, right... It's totally the fault of the guy who is at rehearsal every single day and plays the songs at the exact speed the band wants him to. It's not at all the fault of the guy who never shows up for rehearsal and had no clue how to sing his own song. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJRemastered98 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 33 minutes ago, RussTCB said: That said, it'll probably get better if they try it again. Slither from Berlin says hi 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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