Covid-19 Thread

[SoulMonster]

Both my kids in quarantine now because they have been in near contact with someone with the disease (in class or at music practice). I think the entire school is in quarantine now actually. We opened up recently (no restrictions for kids - normal school, normal activities), and the Delta variant has practically shut us down in a swift response. 

Lots of arguments in the media because of this. Some are saying we are sacrificing our kids because of "long covid". Some are questioning why we aren't shutting down again now with cases being record high. 

Personally, with more than 50% fully vaccinated now and everybody over the age of 18 having been offered the vaccines, I am fine with this. The kids would have got the disease anyway at some point and as long as they are not affected much (there is little evidence for "long covid" being a problem after 6 months), and as long as not many above 18 get sick, this is the way forward, in my opinion. The vaccine is here, most people have been vaccinated (I think 70-80% have the first dose), there is not much more we can do expect delay the inevitable - it is time to control this towards the conclusion.

[SoulMonster]

1 minute ago, Oldest Goat said:

Hope your kids are okay and it's just a precaution.

Oh, they are fine. Thanks. Just a precaution until they have received negative tests. 

[SoulMonster]

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JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — As patients stream into Mississippi hospitals one after another, doctors and nurses have become all too accustomed to the rampant denial and misinformation about COVID-19 in the nation’s least vaccinated state.

People in denial about the severity of their own illness or the virus itself, with visitors frequently trying to enter hospitals without masks. The painful look of recognition on patients’ faces when they realize they made a mistake not getting vaccinated. The constant misinformation about the coronavirus that they discuss with medical staff.

“There’s no point in being judgmental in that situation. There’s no point in telling them, ‘You should have gotten the vaccine or you wouldn’t be here,’” said Dr. Risa Moriarity, executive vice chair of the University of Mississippi Medical Center’s emergency department. “We don’t do that. We try not to preach and lecture them. Some of them are so sick they can barely even speak to us.”

Mississippi’s low vaccinated rate, with about 38% of the state’s 3 million people fully inoculated against COVID-19, is driving a surge in cases and hospitalizations that is overwhelming medical workers. The workers are angry and exhausted over both the workload and refusal by residents to embrace the vaccine.

Physicians at the University of Mississippi Medical Center, the only level one trauma center in all of Mississippi, are caring for the sickest patients in the state.

The emergency room and intensive care unit are beyond capacity, almost all with COVID patients. Moriarity said it’s like a “logjam” with beds in hallways, patients being treated in triage rooms. Paramedics are delayed in responding to new calls because they have to wait with patients who need care.

In one hospital in Mississippi, four pregnant women died last week, said state health officer Dr. Thomas Dobbs. Three of the cases required emergency C-sections and babies were born severely premature.

“This is the reality that we’re looking at and, again, none of these individuals were vaccinated,” Dobbs said.

Moriarity said it’s hard to put into words the fatigue she and her colleagues feel. Going into work each day has become taxing and heartbreaking, she said.

“Most of us still have enough emotional reserve to be compassionate, but you leave work at the end of the day just exhausted by the effort it takes to drug that compassion up for people who are not taking care of themselves and the people around them,” she said.

During a recent news conference, UMMC’s head, Dr. LouAnn Woodward, fought back tears as she described the toll on healthcare workers.

“We as a state, as a collective, have failed to respond in a unified way to a common threat,” Woodward said.

As the virus surges, hospital officials are begging residents to get vaccinated. UMMC announced in July that it will mandate its 10,000 employees and 3,000 students be vaccinated, or wear a N95 mask on campus. By the end of August, leaders revised that policy, vaccination is the only option.

Moriarity said this surge has taken a toll on morale more than previous peaks of the virus. Her team thought in May and June that despite Mississippi’s low vaccination rate, there was an end in sight. The hospital’s ICUs were empty and they had few COVID patients. Then cases surged with the delta variant of the virus, swamping the hospital.

Numbers of total coronavirus hospitalizations in Mississippi have dipped slightly, with just under 1,450 people hospitalized for coronavirus on Sept. 1, compared with around 1,670 on Aug. 19. But they are still higher than numbers during previous surges of the virus.

In the medical center’s children’s hospital, emergency room nurse Anne Sinclair said she is tired of the constant misinformation she hears, namely that children can’t get very ill from COVID.

“I’ve seen children die in my unit of COVID, complications of COVID, and that’s just not something you can ever forget,” she said.

“It’s very sobering,” continued Sinclair, who is the parent of a 2-year-old and a 5-year-old and worries for their safety. “I just wish people could look past the politics and think about their families and their children.”

To deal with overflow COVID patients, Christian relief charity Samaritan’s Purse set up an emergency field hospital in the parking garage of UMMC’s children’s hospital.

The hospital is treating an average of 15 patients a day, with the capacity for seven ICU patients.

Nurse Kelly Sites, who has also treated COVID patients in hotspots like California and Italy, said it’s heartwrenching to know that some of the severe cases could have been prevented with the vaccine. Many patients are so sick they can’t talk. Nurses walk around with scripture verses on duct tape on their scrubs and will recite them to their patients.

Samaritan’s Purse is an international disaster relief organization with missions spanning multiple continents. Sites has responded to 20 missions, in Haiti, the Philippines, Liberia, the Democratic Republic of Congo and other places.

“To respond to the United States is quite surreal for us,” she said. “It’s a challenge because usually, home is stable. And so when we deploy, we’re just going to the disaster. This is the first time where home is a disaster.”

Mississippi's Low Vaccination Rate Leaves Hospitals In Crisis | HuffPost

Edited September 6, 2021 by SoulMonster

[alfierose]

My daughter has Covid currently. She tested positive a week ago after going to a festival. She seems okay so far - feels a bit tired and has a cold. She did say it's weird that the symptoms go up and down, disappearing for a while then coming back. She lost her smell and taste which was the first symptom.

I'm not overly worried, I keep checking in with her every couple of days to see how she feels because I know you can feel like you're recovering then suddenly get worse. Her boyfriend is in isolation with her but despite also going to the festival and being in the same house he's remained negative so far.

They've both only had one jab but hoping they're young enough for that to be enough. They could have been double jabbed by now but like many 20 somethings didn't make it a priority. I think my persistent nagging is the reason they have at least one. 

[SoulMonster]

34 minutes ago, alfierose said:

My daughter has Covid currently. She tested positive a week ago after going to a festival. She seems okay so far - feels a bit tired and has a cold. She did say it's weird that the symptoms go up and down, disappearing for a while then coming back. She lost her smell and taste which was the first symptom.

I'm not overly worried, I keep checking in with her every couple of days to see how she feels because I know you can feel like you're recovering then suddenly get worse. Her boyfriend is in isolation with her but despite also going to the festival and being in the same house he's remained negative so far.

They've both only had one jab but hoping they're young enough for that to be enough. They could have been double jabbed by now but like many 20 somethings didn't make it a priority. I think my persistent nagging is the reason they have at least one. 

Well done on you as a mother. 

Sounds like she is only mildly affected. Hoping it will stay that way. It most likely will. With one dose she has about 60-80% less chance of developing serious symptoms, and she must be young which again protects her. I am confident she will soon be 100% again.

[Homefuck]

Meanwhile in Sweden: By the end of this month we'll lose (almost) all (covid) restrictions. I'm happy!

[Gavin82]

No 10 not ruling out ‘firebreak’ lockdown if Covid cases rise (msn.com)

 

Will there be a firebreak lockdown in October to tackle rising Covid cases? (msn.com)

I expect this will happen 

Edited September 7, 2021 by Gavin82

[SoulMonster]

Negative tests on both daughters. Back to school tomorrow.

[dontdamnmeuyi2015]

Not to be mean, but was she really healthy? Sometimes people don't know what's going on with their own bodies unless you go to your doctor regularly.

Anyway, it sucks that so many people aren't getting vaccinated and that includes nurses, teachers, school bus drivers, firemen and cops. I don't understand this at all.

44 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

Negative tests on both daughters. Back to school tomorrow.

Great news! Keeping our kids safe and healthy is the main job of us parents. I just wish all parents felt this way.

One doctor said it's not just your child at risk, but think of the other children who are in school with your child.

We have to stop being selfish when it comes to our kids.

[Gavin82]

40,000 doses of the AstraZeneca Covid vaccine have been thrown away in Wales after expiring - Wales Online

 

 

[dontdamnmeuyi2015]

4 minutes ago, Gavin82 said:

40,000 doses of the AstraZeneca Covid vaccine have been thrown away in Wales after expiring - Wales Online

 

 

Damn it.

Numbers are way up here in Texas as well as many other states in America. 

If we don't all get vaccinated, this virus won't ever go away.

This just shows you how many selfish people there are in the world.

Stay well.

[Ratam]

WHO says COVID will mutate like the Flu, and is likely here to stay.

[Homefuck]

Yep, like most viruses. 

[SoulMonster]

77% are now fully inoculated in Norway. 89.7% of those over 18. We are still vaccinated people over 18 (many of my colleagues got their second shot this week), so I assume the number will get well over 95% for people over 18 quite soon. Then we might start vaccinated people over 12. 

[-Jaro-]

10 hours ago, Ratam said:

WHO says COVID will mutate like the Flu, and is likely here to stay.

So, Australia and New Zeland are going to be large prisons forever then?

[Homefuck]

1 hour ago, SoulMonster said:

77% are now fully inoculated in Norway. 89.7% of those over 18. We are still vaccinated people over 18 (many of my colleagues got their second shot this week), so I assume the number will get well over 95% for people over 18 quite soon. 

That's great! Any news regarding going the swedish/danish route?

[SoulMonster]

1 hour ago, Homefuck said:

Any news regarding going the swedish/danish route?

I have no idea. The media has stopped comparing us to Sweden and Denmark now. I don't now why.  

[Homefuck]

48 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

I have no idea. The media has stopped comparing us to Sweden and Denmark now. I don't now why.  

I have my suspicions why the comparisons have stopped. But those suspicions are borderline conspiracy theoristic so I'll keep my trap shut. 

[Homefuck]

1 hour ago, Oldest Goat said:

We are bleeding a lot of money having the border closed I'm sure we'll open once everyone's vaccinated. Just got another 250,000 doses of Pfizer from Spain. All areas outside of Auckland only at Level 2 now. Cases continue to drop there was only 13 new cases, 625 total and dropping.

2,711,485 first dose administered. 1,389,172 second dose administered.

Halfway there then (given that the ones who's taken the first dose will also get a second dose)? 

[Ratam]

6 hours ago, -Jaro- said:

So, Australia and New Zeland are going to be large prisons forever then?

I guess the issue with Australia and New Zeland is them was relatively better compared with anothers countrys, then now seem they are bit worst about cases skip up, and the governement has fear is put out of control. I hope that soon than late they back to normality. Sure that @Oldest Goat knew much more. I live in Argentina, here is now much better fortunately. 

[Sweersa]

The few friends I have left will not hang out with me since I have not gotten any of the shots.

So my only friends are now on the internet, and co-workers.

 

[dontdamnmeuyi2015]

LA schools will mandate all students over 12 to get vaccinated or they will be put into another school. I'm all for this since so many kids aren't getting permission from their parents to get vaccinated. And now that all schools across the US are opened, we need to get this virus under control. I just hope one of the vaccines hurries up and gets the okay for kids under 12 so my daughter can get vaccinated.  I know the moron we have as a Gov won't agree to something so drastic as the LA schools are doing. Because he thinks all the cops will arrest all the rapists and they will be in jail forever and there won't be anymore rapes and then no women won't have to get abortions since there won't be any more rapes. Every news channel that shows Abbott saying this have this look of confusion on their faces! if it wasn't so sad it would be funny.

Numbers are still up in Dallas. Many schools have to close due to numbers up with their students. 

Biden will make a speech later today talking about his 6 points regarding getting vaccinated. God help the dopes who won't get past point 2. 

And with flu season around the corner, covid will continue to spread if everyone doesn't get vaccinated and wear a damn mask.

48 minutes ago, Sweersa said:

The few friends I have left will not hang out with me since I have not gotten any of the shots.

So my only friends are now on the internet, and co-workers.

 

Well, I feel bad for you, but honestly, you need to get vaccinated. If not for yourself then for your family and friends and little kids who can't get vaccinated yet. Last week a 4 year old child died of covid. Do you want to be responsible for something like that?

We all have to be protected so we can protect others too.

[Sweersa]

32 minutes ago, dontdamnmeuyi2015 said:

Well, I feel bad for you, but honestly, you need to get vaccinated. If not for yourself then for your family and friends and little kids who can't get vaccinated yet. Last week a 4 year old child died of covid. Do you want to be responsible for something like that?

I wouldn't be responsible for that. People get sick, people die. 

People trying to guilt me into taking the vaccine and the various other constant pressures for me to do it have actually pushed me away from getting it more than anything else.

[SoulMonster]

22 minutes ago, Sweersa said:

I wouldn't be responsible for that. People get sick, people die. 

Boggles my mind how anti-vaxxers can somehow convince themselves that refusing to reduce the spread of the disease through vaccinations are not causing sickness and deaths of others. 

[Homefuck]

1 hour ago, Sweersa said:

The few friends I have left will not hang out with me since I have not gotten any of the shots.

So my only friends are now on the internet, and co-workers.

 

Would you like to hang out with your friends? If so, why not get the vaccine, besides stubbornes? I'll never understand why people choose (petty and irrational) principles before happiness.

But hey, each to their own.