Free Bird Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, IrishgunnerII said: Best song ever recorded ? It’s not even the best GNR song so not sure that holds up. Best GNR song? It probably is one of the worst CD songs and that means a lot. The only good thing is Axl's voice really and I agree it has a catchy melodie somewhere inside but it's far from the better songs of CD. Songs like this are basically a reason why I dislike CD so much. That has nothing to do with GNR musically. The solo of that song is dogshit, it makes me cringe, the sound of the guitars and the intro are awful IMO. The chorus and even the pre chorus are annoying. I really had to go back to listen to this turd again to tell what's so stupid on it because I really had no memorys to the details. I'd better not. And then people keep saying CD is the evolved UYI sound. With songs like this? Lol. It's a u-turn. It's a complete transformation. It's totally different. That's not anything like my classic GNR. It's sad. Edited October 9, 2022 by Free Bird 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Free Bird said: Best GNR song? It probably is one of the worst CD songs and that means a lot. The only good thing is Axl's voice really and I agree it has a catchy melodie somewhere inside but it's far from the better songs of CD. Songs like this are basically a reason why I dislike CD so much. That has nothing to do with GNR musically. The solo of that song is dogshit, it makes me cringe, the sound of the guitars and the intro are awful IMO. The chorus and even the pre chorus are annoying. I really had to go back to listen to this turd again to tell what's so stupid on it because I really had no memorys to the details. I'd better not. And then people keep saying CD is the evolved UYI sound. With songs like this? Lol. It's a u-turn. It's a complete transformation. It's totally different. That's not anything like my classic GNR. It's sad. Imagine it as "Axl Rose - Chinese Democracy" instead of "Guns N' Roses - Chinese Democracy". It helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 4 hours ago, jamillos said: Imagine it as "Axl Rose - Chinese Democracy" instead of "Guns N' Roses - Chinese Democracy". It helps. Probably that would help for some songs on CD, I agree. But Shackler's... no. It's not my music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAFC Nick Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) Weirdly I was thinking about this song today when speaking to a friend about Chinese Democracy. I have a bit of a love/hate relationship with this song and I feel it was misplaced on the album; definitely should have been Hardschool as the second song on the tracklist to give the solid 1-2-3 of CD/HS/Better to get people invested. My experience when showing CD to people is that they think the title track is ok, but are immediately put off when they hear Shackler's, which sets the tone for the rest of the album. Some comments/musings from my side. - If I recall correctly, the first we heard of this song title was when there was a Rock Band 2 announcement. I don't remember ever before this even hearing the name and pretty sure my cynical reaction at the time was to call it as BS! - Axl said the lyrics were inspired by the Virginia Tech shooting (April 2007), so by it's very nature the vocals had to be recorded between April 2007 and September/October 2008. Vocal-wise, Axl's voice sounds very similar to how he sounded on Sebastian Bach's album, Angel Down, which was released in November 2007, so it points to it being recorded in a small window between April 2007-Nov 2007. Wonder if there was anything else added in at this point, maybe Scraped? - One of the big "What Ifs" of this song is "What if it kept the original Buckethead solo?". Now I know if you listen to the RB multitracks you can hear a really faint solo in the background but I'm really hesitant to say for sure that there was a properly mixed/mastered version that included the old one. I imagine if there was, it would've been on the Antiquiet leak? Sorry for bumping an old thread but for some reason been thinking about this song all afternoon Edited March 13, 2023 by CAFC Nick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shacklers Absolution Posted August 1, 2023 Author Share Posted August 1, 2023 ... But Shake It Off (1989 Taylor Swift) is almost as good. Carly Rae Jepsen - I Really Like You The same chorus, as Shacklers Revenge. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantomas Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Stop necro-ing crap like this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cantona Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Based. Wish I could've heard it live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 A former friend of mine once referred to this song as Guns N’ Korn. I like it, but I can see why others don’t. Sometimes I feel like it should’ve been deeper on the album, rather than Track 2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 minute ago, rocknroll41 said: A former friend of mine once referred to this song as Guns N’ Korn. I like it, but I can see why others don’t. Sometimes I feel like it should’ve been deeper on the album, rather than Track 2. Chinese Democracy Better Street of Dreams Shackler's Revenge If the World Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russel Nash Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 I am here solely to participate in this historical thread. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Sosso said: Chinese Democracy Better Street of Dreams Shackler's Revenge If the World Not a bad idea, but I think if it were up to me I woulda gone with: 1.Better 2.IRS 3.Chinese Democracy 4.Street of Dreams 5.If the World 6.Sorry 7.There Was a Time 8.Riad N’ the Bedouins 9.Shackler’s Revenge 10.Catcher in the Rye 11.Scraped 12.Madagascar 13.This I Love 14.Prostitute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gilby Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 Best song ever or best GN'R song ever no? But it's refreshingly different and when your in the right mood catchy as fuck. Another interesting one is If The World. It sounds like a Bond movie song. Again it's cool cos it's so different to anything else GN'R has done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appetitefordiscussion Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 I love Ron’s solo but I feel it’s so wrong to take buckets solo off what is the most sounding buckethead song on the album. especially when you’re replacing it with a guy similarly named Bumblefoot 😂 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 one of my favorites. Really took the It's So Easy role on Chinese (not that I'm comparing quality here, that's beside the point) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trin9498 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 I dont mind the song.....actually think it's ok but I NEVER listen to it anymore..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 I really like the "Bucket songs" Shackler's, Sorry, Scraped, If The World, etc. I hope we get to hear more eventually, somehow. I too hope we get to hear the version with Bucket's solo. The Village version has a different solo than what can be heard in the multi track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimiRose Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 I think this, with if the world, riad and scraped will be the 4 songs we never hear with slash in the band live. I think they'll dust off IRS again with this band in a future tour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlashisGOD Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 I could see Slash playing Scraped but Axl couldn’t sing it anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsnchalupas Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 (edited) Shacklers is one of the few songs from CD which had single potential. You can make an argument about things like fans being willing to accept a piano ballad/epic as one of the singles, because GNR was known for that - but otherwise they had Shacklers and Better. CD did used the It's So Easy voice and bad the minute long intro. Axl isn't recognized for that voice in the mainstream. Silkworms could have been a good single in 1999 if the lyrics were changed to emit the 6th grade edge and make them more tolerable. If they found a way to capture the energy and more upbeat arrangement of The Blues from the 2001ish tour, that could have been a big hit for them. GNR always did best with ballads. Edited August 2, 2023 by gunsnchalupas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appetitefordiscussion Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 I never understood IRS not being a single w/ CD and Better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yugoss88 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 “It’s so easy” on steroids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 What is the point of this other than to rile up fans of the song? This is some low hanging fruit. Dumb thread of the year contender🥇 Shacklers is also a good song, not sure how that escapes people. In a world where eye on you is making it to gnr fans dream setlists, it's astonishing that a proper fully formed song like Shacklers and others like If the world get shit on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 (edited) But yes, I think I did get rick rolled on this one Edited August 2, 2023 by Tom2112 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-W.A.R- Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 On 10/9/2022 at 1:41 AM, Free Bird said: The solo of that song is dogshit, it makes me cringe You didn't like the elephant noise at the beginning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 6 hours ago, -W.A.R- said: You didn't like the elephant noise at the beginning? I'm sorry, but I did my best to forget what I've heard. Can't remember any elephant noise but I assure you, if I want to hear some, I'll visit a zoo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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